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Aldila RIP Prototype Iron Shafts - 18 Hole Review


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#31 QuigleyDU

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:38 PM

i had a set of irons with graphite shaft a long time ago and they were terrible. But I think that if the feel and weight was right I would be all over graphite again.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:52 PM

Nice write up.  Thanks for putting in the time to share with the rest of us.

Edited by chiguy, 21 November 2012 - 03:53 PM.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:55 PM

I played the MFS 115 Orange 6.0's and the Blue 6.5's, Aerotech i95 R & S and the old school Penley IMS 6.5's. all were top notch and would game the Aerotechs again but my Father-in-law "borrowed" them  (with Cally Fusions) and doesn't want to game anything else, so they are his now.

Considering some of these steel shafts are $35-$50+ a shaft, too end graphite shafts won't be much more. And Tiger gamed a steel shaft and would never game graphite, and now games graphite. He'd never change his Scotty to a Nike. He games a Nike putter. He'll never cheat on his wife and bang 2/3's of the pornstars and strippers in the industry.... Ok, I was wrong, it's only about 3/5's of them.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 03:51 AM

Thread resurrection.. Boo Weekley just won with these shafts.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 06:30 AM

Yes he did. Not sure there are many players out there right now how can better Boo's ballstriking. I was really happy to see him win yesterday.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 06:52 AM

Thanks for the write up, I am curious to try a set myself.  Have you tried the Matrix?  If so any comparisons?

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 07:55 AM

View Postmuxi87, on 17 November 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Boo had been playing them in his TM MCs pretty much all year...has said many times he absolutely loves them.

Boo still plays Cleveland irons. Has the 588MBs covered in lead tape.
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 03:30 PM

aren't these the one's boo just won with?

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 10:43 AM

Just got a set of irons with these shafts in them last Thursday and had a chance to play three rounds with them over the weekend.  The irons are a set of Tour Issue Cleveland CG1 BP (purchased from yourtourcollection.com) and they look amazing with the matte black RIP Proto iron shafts.  As far as performance, i've only played three rounds with them but if there is one thing I noticed most about these is the trajectory.  I came from playing PX in my irons and for me, the RIP protos go considerably lower.  No more moon ball, just a flat boring trajectory.  Where I live (prairies) it's constantly windy so the lower trajectory is a welcomed change.  I don't want to say they are lower spin because I have no way of verifying but the lower trajectory really helps the ball go through the wind better.  So far, i'm thrilled with the performance and can't wait to get some range time in so I can really get used to them...

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 01:51 PM

View Postmuxi87, on 17 November 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Boo had been playing them in his TM MCs pretty much all year...has said many times he absolutely loves them.

Boo has been playing cleveland blades since before he went to TM.


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 02:01 PM

View Posthayzooos, on 19 November 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

View Postjgpl, on 19 November 2012 - 05:10 AM, said:

Graphite shafts and irons WILL NEVER happen

I am not for or against graphite in irons, but these will fade away like all others...............

I think you're wrong on this one. Graphite shafts have advanced further than probably anything else in the past 5-7 years. Just look at the options we have when it comes to shafts for drivers. I think it'll take some time to be adopted, but the control they have in making graphite shafts are far greater than steel. Because of this, they'll be able to get performance on par with steel shafts in a short order, and surpass it shortly there after.
I agree 100 %

2 things have to happen for graphite iron shafts to take off

1. They have to be reasonably priced...$50 or less each and even 50 is pushing it

2. Need more tour guys gaming em...what they play is what we play....once the top guys switch recreational golfers will follow suit....I know it has no relevance but its way it is

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 05:28 PM

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 06:03 PM

If you guys noticed, the new Wilson Staff FG Tour M3 irons come with the option of Aldila RIP Phenom 95 shafts. The Wilson Staff FG Tour v2 had an option of something they called Aldila VS Proto II but it was hard to find any info on that shaft except that it was red instead of blue and had a taper tip.

I very much like the VS Proto shafts I play in my irons and was wondering whether the good people of the forum had any info [or educated guesses] on the RIP Phenom 95 shafts and whether they have anything to do with the RIP Prototypes. Obviously, they are going to be a lot lighter and I wonder what that does to the launch.

The VS Protos launch pretty high and I've been toying with the idea of changing to NV 85's to lower the launch but if there is going to be something in the RIP range that would also sound pretty tempting.
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Posted 26 September 2013 - 06:32 PM

View Postdunn, on 17 June 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

View Posthayzooos, on 19 November 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

View Postjgpl, on 19 November 2012 - 05:10 AM, said:

Graphite shafts and irons WILL NEVER happen

I am not for or against graphite in irons, but these will fade away like all others...............

I think you're wrong on this one. Graphite shafts have advanced further than probably anything else in the past 5-7 years. Just look at the options we have when it comes to shafts for drivers. I think it'll take some time to be adopted, but the control they have in making graphite shafts are far greater than steel. Because of this, they'll be able to get performance on par with steel shafts in a short order, and surpass it shortly there after.
I agree 100 %

2 things have to happen for graphite iron shafts to take off

1. They have to be reasonably priced...$50 or less each and even 50 is pushing it

2. Need more tour guys gaming em...what they play is what we play....once the top guys switch recreational golfers will follow suit....I know it has no relevance but its way it is

Graphite shafts in irons are the next big thing mark my words.  Companies can do WAY MORE with graphite than they can with steel.  Once graphite is accepted it will become the norm.  Look at all the Tour guys switching to Steelfiber.  It's only a matter of time
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 05:54 PM

Was thinking about getting these in may next set.. I currently hit the kbs tour xflex in my irons.. trying to decide whether or not to go stiff or x.. does anyone have any experience with these and how the flex is in comparison?


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 02:19 PM

The new Adams XTD have the Aldila Rip Tour 115.  I am excited to hit them.

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 03:31 PM

Are the shaft coming to retail?  When?

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 03:54 PM

View Posttmcbigblue, on 17 October 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

Are the shaft coming to retail?  When?

I wrote to Aldila and they told me the RIP iron shafts will be available in the first part of 2014. They will be available in 90 and 115 grams weight and with about 1.3 degrees of torque.

I wonder how these will compare to UST recoils.
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Posted 17 October 2013 - 04:10 PM

Will be very interested in these.  Thanks for the info

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 09:20 AM

View PostSingapore Joe, on 17 October 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

View Posttmcbigblue, on 17 October 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

Are the shaft coming to retail?  When?

I wrote to Aldila and they told me the RIP iron shafts will be available in the first part of 2014. They will be available in 90 and 115 grams weight and with about 1.3 degrees of torque.

I wonder how these will compare to UST recoils.

Heck yeah!!! Show me some good competition with the graphite iron shafts. I just hope they can figure out a way to keep the costs of them down so they're still reasonable.

We already know the Recoils are solid, Steelfibers are a good option, Aldila is making these, Matrix tried their hand with the Program series and will improve on those...who's next? I wonder if Mitsubishi would test this market out as well? Lots of good things coming in this area, no doubt about it.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 02:34 PM

View Posthayzooos, on 18 October 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

View PostSingapore Joe, on 17 October 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

View Posttmcbigblue, on 17 October 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

Are the shaft coming to retail?  When?

I wrote to Aldila and they told me the RIP iron shafts will be available in the first part of 2014. They will be available in 90 and 115 grams weight and with about 1.3 degrees of torque.

I wonder how these will compare to UST recoils.

Who has the MCI? Is that Fuji? Graphite with a steel core near the tip area IIRC?Heck yeah!!! Show me some good competition with the graphite iron shafts. I just hope they can figure out a way to keep the costs of them down so they're still reasonable.

We already know the Recoils are solid, Steelfibers are a good option, Aldila is making these, Matrix tried their hand with the Program series and will improve on those...who's next? I wonder if Mitsubishi would test this market out as well? Lots of good things coming in this area, no doubt about it.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 03:30 PM

View Postmarkheardjr, on 18 October 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

View Posthayzooos, on 18 October 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

View PostSingapore Joe, on 17 October 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

View Posttmcbigblue, on 17 October 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

Are the shaft coming to retail?  When?

I wrote to Aldila and they told me the RIP iron shafts will be available in the first part of 2014. They will be available in 90 and 115 grams weight and with about 1.3 degrees of torque.

I wonder how these will compare to UST recoils.

We already know the Recoils are solid, Steelfibers are a good option, Aldila is making these, Matrix tried their hand with the Program series and will improve on those...who's next? I wonder if Mitsubishi would test this market out as well? Lots of good things coming in this area, no doubt about it.

Who has the MCI? Is that Fuji? Graphite with a steel core near the tip area IIRC?Heck yeah!!! Show me some good competition with the graphite iron shafts. I just hope they can figure out a way to keep the costs of them down so they're still reasonable.

I know Fuji makes some graphite shafted irons as one of the guys on our Callaway trip had them put into his irons. I think they were Rombax shafts, but I can't be 100% certain on that. He swears by graphite and will only play graphite iron shafts.
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Posted 18 October 2013 - 03:36 PM

Mark......how was the harshness of the shaft compared to firm steel shafts?
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Posted 18 October 2013 - 04:32 PM

View PostBirdieBob, on 18 October 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

Mark......how was the harshness of the shaft compared to firm steel shafts?

The shafts are so smooth on flush shots but man on thin or mishits they were a little harsh. I couldn't get them to get heavy enough so it always felt like the ball weighed a ton. I didn't get elbow pain but I got a few sore wrists from swigning extra hard trying to mush a C6 iron through wet rought.I finally had to opt out back to steel until I can get a set of heavy heads. Graphite wood shaft tip weights probably would have been a start, but you can only add about 10g with those. I had to wrap the hosels of my irons with 3 1" stips of high density lead tape 2 layers thick just to get to like D0. I tried to go with an ultralite grip but that felt even worst to me. I think I'll wait for the OEM's to figure out the weights for me. I also got the TX version of the RIPs even after the Aldila staffer suggested X, but I wanted to try the TX. Well, should have gone with just the X. I have hit these in TM MC's a while back built for the VP of Aldila's R&D and Engineering and man were they so good. I think his were stiff's. I think a stock X with the right head and grip combo could be a real contender and make a lot of guys think twice. A set of high-end graphite in a set of higher end player's CB's / MB's in a big box store for people to actually hit and feel would do so much for the graphite market.
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Posted 18 October 2013 - 04:40 PM

View Posthayzooos, on 18 October 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

View PostSingapore Joe, on 17 October 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

View Posttmcbigblue, on 17 October 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

Are the shaft coming to retail?  When?

I wrote to Aldila and they told me the RIP iron shafts will be available in the first part of 2014. They will be available in 90 and 115 grams weight and with about 1.3 degrees of torque.

I wonder how these will compare to UST recoils.

Heck yeah!!! Show me some good competition with the graphite iron shafts. I just hope they can figure out a way to keep the costs of them down so they're still reasonable.

We already know the Recoils are solid, Steelfibers are a good option, Aldila is making these, Matrix tried their hand with the Program series and will improve on those...who's next? I wonder if Mitsubishi would test this market out as well? Lots of good things coming in this area, no doubt about it.

I'm sure they can find a way to keep the cost down. Whether they see the need to translate that into lower retail prices is a totally different question. If these shafts are really good and if the market is willing to bear the high price tag then... well, I'm just a tree hugging European in excile, you Americans should be much better at all this market economy stuff...

If they manage to change the market so that these are no longer novelties but a genuine alternatives a large number of golfers would consider, then I am sure the prices will start to come down. A bit of a chicken-egg problem it is.

That 1.3 degrees of torque got me wondering whether they can really make a graphite shaft with such a low torque or whether that was a typo. Sounds really low.

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 04:46 PM

View Postmarkheardjr, on 18 October 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

View PostBirdieBob, on 18 October 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

Mark......how was the harshness of the shaft compared to firm steel shafts?

The shafts are so smooth on flush shots but man on thin or mishits they were a little harsh. I couldn't get them to get heavy enough so it always felt like the ball weighed a ton. I didn't get elbow pain but I got a few sore wrists from swigning extra hard trying to mush a C6 iron through wet rought.I finally had to opt out back to steel until I can get a set of heavy heads. Graphite wood shaft tip weights probably would have been a start, but you can only add about 10g with those. I had to wrap the hosels of my irons with 3 1" stips of high density lead tape 2 layers thick just to get to like D0. I tried to go with an ultralite grip but that felt even worst to me. I think I'll wait for the OEM's to figure out the weights for me. I also got the TX version of the RIPs even after the Aldila staffer suggested X, but I wanted to try the TX. Well, should have gone with just the X. I have hit these in TM MC's a while back built for the VP of Aldila's R&D and Engineering and man were they so good. I think his were stiff's. I think a stock X with the right head and grip combo could be a real contender and make a lot of guys think twice. A set of high-end graphite in a set of higher end player's CB's / MB's in a big box store for people to actually hit and feel would do so much for the graphite market.


Thanks,  I suppose the benefit should be a little less harshness which would be a benefit for those of us that pound a lot of range balls.  :)
The new Adams XTD irons have the option of the Aldila 115g shaft...Swingweight at standard length is D0...add a 1/2" for me and about D2-D3.

Thinking seriously about some graphite shafts....now which?

Edited by BirdieBob, 18 October 2013 - 04:47 PM.

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 11:39 AM

Details up on the Aldila website now.........

http://www.aldila.co...ducts/rip-iron/
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Posted 27 October 2013 - 12:04 PM

View Postjgpl, on 19 November 2012 - 05:10 AM, said:

Graphite shafts and irons WILL NEVER happen

I am not for or against graphite in irons, but these will fade away like all others...............

I have a set of TaylorMade 2009 Tour Preferred irons with Aldila NV MLTI Comp 85, S-flex shafts in them, and they are perfect for my needs, as follows:

1.) the 86g weight is lighter but not too light.
2.) the torque is 2.5*, which isn't far from torque of steel shafts.
3.) shock absorption is better than steel - I like to practice.
4.) flex point is mid, which works for me in all conditions.
5.) feel of these shafts makes the clubhead feel forged.
6.) trajectory and dispersion is very consistent.

I'm glad I tried a set of irons with these shafts and would try any newer Aldila graphite iron shafts in the future. They work for me!

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 12:40 PM

the Clubmaker has been teasing us with these shafts.  Sound fantastic!  I went with RV2 95's in my irons, absolutely love them, to the point of putting them in my wedges.  My hands don't hurt any more either.

In 10 years, you will be seeing as many steel shafted irons as you currently see steel shafted drivers.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 05:22 PM

View PostBirdieBob, on 27 October 2013 - 11:39 AM, said:

Details up on the Aldila website now.........

http://www.aldila.co...ducts/rip-iron/

I took another look at the web site. What's with the different butt diameters in the shafts? With the 115g R-flex it's constant .600 but with S and X flex the butt diameters vary between 0.600 and 0.610 without any obvious pattern.

It seems that the weight per shaft is close to constant at each shaft length which might relate to butt diameter but at the first thought, for constant weight the butt diameter should go up (i.e. the shaft gets thicker and therefore heavier) when the shaft gets shorter - not the other way around.

In the 90g shaft at least there's a clear pattern.

Any idea whether this is just a copy-paste error or something from the design? If the information is accurate, is this going to introduce complexities in grip selection and installation?

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