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Is Rory a limited player?


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#31 hogans71

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:13 PM

While I somewhat understand the op's point, I can't help but find it humorous.

We are talking about the no.1 player- ON THE PLANET...


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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:15 PM

No, he's not limited. But it does beg the question, if Rory IS limited what does that mean for the rest of us?
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:15 PM

Can't wait for the threads next year when he plays bad one tournament and misses the cut and everyone blames the nike clubs lol
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:26 PM

+1 on the Honda win

Before the final round there when he was in contention (or possibly even leading, I can't remember which) people were saying the wind was going to be a huge factor. It was blowing hard and plenty of people said he just can't play in those conditions, but he won comfortably in the end.

He's not as good in the wind as he is in perfect conditions, but not many are.

And on the missed cuts, Tiger was a machine, physically and mentally. McIlroy is more "normal" mentally. You need guts to play some of the shots he plays under pressure, but he isn't superhuman like Tiger, so he will miss cuts and lose concentration during a season.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:42 PM

View PostShankieboink, on 16 November 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Windy conditions is definitly not one of Rorys strongest sides (not saying he's weak). I think it's an experience thing (many old players that handle it better).. Many "good weather" players that sometimes can crush the course in good weather, plain suck in bad weather. Just look at some of the guys who has shoot record scores, None of them can play in windy conditions.

Goydos (59), Appleby (59), Karlsson (36 hole record)

Appleby certainly can play in the wind. He's played that much golf in Melbourne where it's a requirement to be able flight the ball different ways. He just is not a great putter.


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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:14 PM

View PostGupps01, on 16 November 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

View PostShankieboink, on 16 November 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Windy conditions is definitly not one of Rorys strongest sides (not saying he's weak). I think it's an experience thing (many old players that handle it better).. Many "good weather" players that sometimes can crush the course in good weather, plain suck in bad weather. Just look at some of the guys who has shoot record scores, None of them can play in windy conditions.

Goydos (59), Appleby (59), Karlsson (36 hole record)

Appleby certainly can play in the wind. He's played that much golf in Melbourne where it's a requirement to be able flight the ball different ways. He just is not a great putter.

Yeah, Appleby perhaps shouldn't be on that list. He has a T2 in B.O from 2002.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:36 PM

View PostRistlager, on 16 November 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

Yes, he is nr 1 in the world and he also is my favourite player (tied with Tiger). But it seems he needs perfect conditions in order to perform. Everytime the wind turns up, he misses cuts (like today) or shoots himself out of contention. It seems he isn't able to change his shots to suit the conditions. And his stock high draw gets him in all sorts of trouble when the wind blows up. He even said after the Open last year, that he didn't want to change his game for one turnament.


I can't remember that he has been in contention in any turnaments with wind. So is he limited or is my memory very fuzzy, and he actually has been good in windy weather?

I thought Rory blew the field away at the PGA Championship at Kiawah in pretty crazy conditions, no?
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 08:16 PM

View Posthogans71, on 16 November 2012 - 05:13 PM, said:

While I somewhat understand the op's point, I can't help but find it humorous.

We are talking about the no.1 player- ON THE PLANET...

Pretty much my sentiments, i know what the OP means. Rory seems to be at his best when he can hit moonball draws on every shot. He's still the #1 player in the world, which is of course probably why we are dissecting him to this degree.

But remember even he said came over here partially because the courses suit him better, which lends a little credence to the fact that he does have a style of game he prefers to play
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 08:21 PM

Tiger's Open wins have all been in calm conditions.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:39 PM

Rory McIlimited
Rory McIltd.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:26 PM

Rory is a brutal ballstriker. And he has been showing some fine touch around the greens.

He knows he can hit it as high and far as anyone and this is a good thing.

But he is not a great putter.

So there is the "limitation".

For now anyway.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 10:38 PM

Rory shot the Portrush course record in windy conditions!
He didn't dig deep enough at St Andrews in 2010 on the Friday, otherwise he would have a Claret jug as well.
As worldly wise as he is now, I think he's still a wee bit immature and if things aren't going his way he goes into a huff with himself.

Oh and i'd add no matter what, he needs to stop running after Woz all around the world. That thumb print of hers on the top of his head will make him bald prematurely!

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:38 AM

View PostGupps01, on 16 November 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

View PostShankieboink, on 16 November 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

Windy conditions is definitly not one of Rorys strongest sides (not saying he's weak). I think it's an experience thing (many old players that handle it better).. Many "good weather" players that sometimes can crush the course in good weather, plain suck in bad weather. Just look at some of the guys who has shoot record scores, None of them can play in windy conditions.

Goydos (59), Appleby (59), Karlsson (36 hole record)

Appleby certainly can play in the wind. He's played that much golf in Melbourne where it's a requirement to be able flight the ball different ways. He just is not a great putter.

Rory grew up in Northern Ireland where its at least as windy as Melbourne not to mention 10-15 degrees cooler.

he shot 62 at Royal Portrush when he was 16.

He can play in the wind for sure but his  high draws work better when its  not too windy and reasonably soft.

I grew up in NE Scotland where the high shot,particulary the high fade is known as the "fosbury" as in Fosbury flop(  high jump.)

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:59 AM

We can all agree Rory is the less limited player right now, cause only Chuck Norris is unlimited.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:44 AM

His inability to play in windy conditions has been a marketing stunt from day one. Why do you think Nike are paying him so much, as soon as he starts gaming the Nike clubs he will magically be able to play well in the wind. Let's not forget the conditions he learned to play in.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:47 AM

He's won the US Open and PGA Championship by 8 strokes.  He's also proven he has the capability to win a British Open (2010) and Augusta (2011).  He's already talking about winning the career grand slam, and I think most would be surprised if he never reached that goal. So....if he has the ability to win the career grand slam....what more does he need to do? He hits the ball extremely high and long.  Wasn't this the recipe that Jack used to win 18 majors?

I believe that the the only thing that will limit Rory is himself.  He's stated on more than one occasion that there is more to life than golf, so I think that is why you sometimes see him miss a cut.  I don't believe its the end of the world for him if he misses a cut.  That type of mentality could actually be a good thing, because he's probably less likely to get burned out in the long run.  The potentially bad thing however is when he gets into his mid-30's, will he have the desire to grind and win majors when it's not as easy as it used to be?

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:52 AM

Every player on tour has conditions and courses he favours, even Tiger.  Thats why scheduling is so important, and it seems to be an area that RM will concentrate on next year.  If he gets it right his win ratio should improve, but I can't ever see him getting near Tigers regular tournament record, simply because he doesn't have his unbelievable drive.  

With all the talk about how long and high Rory hits the ball, its his Sunday short game that in my opinion that separates him from the others.  When Tiger at the Honda, and Poulter at the PGA, started making runs Rory continually got up and down under huge pressure.  Everyone remembers Rory winning the PGA by 8, but Poulter got within 2 by the 9th, and at that stage it looked like he had a real chance, but Rory slammed the door on him using an impeccable short game, picking up a string of birdies and never looking like dropping a shot.  Poulter had to force it and he dropped shots as a result.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:39 PM

View PostSlackattack, on 19 November 2012 - 10:47 AM, said:

He's won the US Open and PGA Championship by 8 strokes.  He's also proven he has the capability to win a British Open (2010) and Augusta (2011). He's already talking about winning the career grand slam, and I think most would be surprised if he never reached that goal. So....if he has the ability to win the career grand slam....what more does he need to do? He hits the ball extremely high and long.  Wasn't this the recipe that Jack used to win 18 majors?

I believe that the the only thing that will limit Rory is himself.  He's stated on more than one occasion that there is more to life than golf, so I think that is why you sometimes see him miss a cut.  I don't believe its the end of the world for him if he misses a cut.  That type of mentality could actually be a good thing, because he's probably less likely to get burned out in the long run.  The potentially bad thing however is when he gets into his mid-30's, will he have the desire to grind and win majors when it's not as easy as it used to be?

He did?  I must have been dreaming when he puked all over himself.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:49 PM

View Postej002, on 19 November 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

View PostSlackattack, on 19 November 2012 - 10:47 AM, said:

He's won the US Open and PGA Championship by 8 strokes.  He's also proven he has the capability to win a British Open (2010) and Augusta (2011). He's already talking about winning the career grand slam, and I think most would be surprised if he never reached that goal. So....if he has the ability to win the career grand slam....what more does he need to do? He hits the ball extremely high and long.  Wasn't this the recipe that Jack used to win 18 majors?

I believe that the the only thing that will limit Rory is himself.  He's stated on more than one occasion that there is more to life than golf, so I think that is why you sometimes see him miss a cut.  I don't believe its the end of the world for him if he misses a cut.  That type of mentality could actually be a good thing, because he's probably less likely to get burned out in the long run.  The potentially bad thing however is when he gets into his mid-30's, will he have the desire to grind and win majors when it's not as easy as it used to be?

He did?  I must have been dreaming when he puked all over himself.

The Masters one is the most relevant, the fact he has shown he has the ability to absolutely tear that course apart would suggest he will at least be in contention there several times in the future, and he clearly has the capability to win it, that's not necessarily saying he will.

And if you shoot the lowest-ever first round score in the 150-year history of the Open Championship (wikipedia) you will probably have a few opportunities at that tournament too.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:17 PM

View Postpracticetee, on 16 November 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

View PostRistlager, on 16 November 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

Yes, he is nr 1 in the world and he also is my favourite player (tied with Tiger). But it seems he needs perfect conditions in order to perform. Everytime the wind turns up, he misses cuts (like today) or shoots himself out of contention. It seems he isn't able to change his shots to suit the conditions. And his stock high draw gets him in all sorts of trouble when the wind blows up. He even said after the Open last year, that he didn't want to change his game for one turnament.


I can't remember that he has been in contention in any turnaments with wind. So is he limited or is my memory very fuzzy, and he actually has been good in windy weather?

I thought Rory blew the field away at the PGA Championship at Kiawah in pretty crazy conditions, no?
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