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[gphin305]

mukster, on 15 November 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

IIRC, 5 Hour Energy has approx. the same caffeine as one large (500ml.) cup of coffee. The rest of the stuff in there is (according to the interwebs)

• Niacin 30 mg — 150% of the RDA
  
• Vitamin B6 40 mg — 2000% of the RDA
  
• Folic acid 400 mg — 100% of the RDA
  
• Vitamin B12  500 mcg — 8333% of the RDA
  
• Energy blend: taurine, glucuronic acid, malic acid, N-acetyl L tyrosine, L-phenylalanine, caffeine, and citicoline. Total amount of blend: 1870 mg. The caffeine content is not specified on the label, but it is supposedly comparable to a cup of the leading premium coffee.

Doubt that any of that will kill you any worse than chugging back two cups of java before a round. It also seems that it does not do much more than drinking two cups of java before the round. Most of those B vitamins (water soluble) will end up in the bush next to the 4th tee when you take the first leak.

I personally wonder if Jim in fact actually "uses the product".

Some great comments here.....and funny ones as well.....as I expected.  My only reason for posting was energy drinks have got a lot of bad press in recent months......not just 5Hour (Red Bull, Monster,Rockstar, etc) and have been directly related to many deaths (mostly teenagers and 20 somethings) and visits to hospital emergency rooms......and is becoming a very recognized hot topic in the medical community.  Even Living Essentials, the parent who sells this stuff refuses to call it an energy drink (to avoid the relationship) and uses the term "energy shot".  They also refuse to identify the amount of caffeine in the drink claiming "about the same" as a cup of coffee when actually it has about 60% more (207mg) according to a test by Consumer Reports.  There is something wrong when a company refuses to identify all of it's ingredients. With the PGA's constant promotion of getting kids (who like to mix this stuff with alcohol  and have no clue about the dangers) involved in the sport where this product is having the most danger (I have no problem with adults using responsibly), just seems an odd partnership to me.  I always thought Furyk was a pretty classy guy and strange he can't find another sponsor to put on his hat.  Just seems odd he's promoting a product that has a much bigger audience in maybe a sport like dirt biking.  Wonder if he allows his kids to drink it (and yes, there have been reports about parents giving it to 7 year olds). Anyway, enjoyed reading the responses.....case closed.

Edited by gphin305, 15 November 2012 - 11:00 AM.

[ej002]

lumberman2462, on 15 November 2012 - 09:52 AM, said:

Every morning I stop in a convenience store to get my morning coffee.  3 days out of 5 there is a guy there that gets a large cup of coffee and pours it about 1/2 full and adds a handful of sugar packets - he then goes to the counter and adds TWO of those 5 Hour Energy things in the coffee......uses it kinda like creamer.  I guess.  I've always wanted to follow him for an hour or so and see if he's bouncing off the walls of his office.

Awesome.

[CheckJV]

Too much water will kill you as well.  Everything is toxic to the human body, it is just a matter of dose.

[mukster]

Here is my idea for a better product, it is called "5 Gallon Energy"

If you are going to do it, do it properly.

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[bcflyguy1]

13 deaths linked to the stuff isn't what scares me.  Here is what does:

1. A snap-hooked 3 wood at crunch time in the US Open.
2. Putter going off like a shotgun on 18th green at Firestone.
3. Putter again going off like a shotgun at the Ryder Cup.

Sure makes you want to go use the "energy drink" he endorses.  Yes, can I please suddenly get the jittering gags when my match is on the line?  No thanks.

[Vindog]

gphin305, on 15 November 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:

Some great comments here.....and funny ones as well.....as I expected.  My only reason for posting was energy drinks have got a lot of bad press in recent months......not just 5Hour (Red Bull, Monster,Rockstar, etc) and have been directly related to many deaths (mostly teenagers and 20 somethings) and visits to hospital emergency rooms......and is becoming a very recognized hot topic in the medical community.  Even Living Essentials, the parent who sells this stuff refuses to call it an energy drink (to avoid the relationship) and uses the term "energy shot".  They also refuse to identify the amount of caffeine in the drink claiming "about the same" as a cup of coffee when actually it has about 60% more (207mg) according to a test by Consumer Reports.  There is something wrong when a company refuses to identify all of it's ingredients. With the PGA's constant promotion of getting kids (who like to mix this stuff with alcohol  and have no clue about the dangers) involved in the sport where this product is having the most danger (I have no problem with adults using responsibly), just seems an odd partnership to me.  I always thought Furyk was a pretty classy guy and strange he can't find another sponsor to put on his hat.  Just seems odd he's promoting a product that has a much bigger audience in maybe a sport like dirt biking.  Wonder if he allows his kids to drink it (and yes, there have been reports about parents giving it to 7 year olds). Anyway, enjoyed reading the responses.....case closed.

I'm falling short of linking Furyk or the PGA tour to promotion of death.

I know what you're trying to get at, but I just think it's a bit of a reach.  Is it the product, or is it irresponsibility?

Edited by Vindog, 15 November 2012 - 11:50 AM.

[mwkbmw]

Furyk doesn

bcflyguy1, on 15 November 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

13 deaths linked to the stuff isn't what scares me.  Here is what does:

1. A snap-hooked 3 wood at crunch time in the US Open.
2. Putter going off like a shotgun on 18th green at Firestone.
3. Putter again going off like a shotgun at the Ryder Cup.

Sure makes you want to go use the "energy drink" he endorses.  Yes, can I please suddenly get the jittering gags when my match is on the line?  No thanks.

Furyk doesn't use the product. I can tell from the commercials that he is lying when he talks about how great it is. He looks like a guy does just before a prostate exam. Uncomfortable, maybe? He never convinced me that he really believes in the product.

[KYMAR]

mwkbmw, on 15 November 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

Furyk doesn

bcflyguy1, on 15 November 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

13 deaths linked to the stuff isn't what scares me.  Here is what does:

1. A snap-hooked 3 wood at crunch time in the US Open.
2. Putter going off like a shotgun on 18th green at Firestone.
3. Putter again going off like a shotgun at the Ryder Cup.

Sure makes you want to go use the "energy drink" he endorses.  Yes, can I please suddenly get the jittering gags when my match is on the line?  No thanks.

Furyk doesn't use the product. I can tell from the commercials that he is lying when he talks about how great it is. He looks like a guy does just before a prostate exam. Uncomfortable, maybe? He never convinced me that he really believes in the product.

I agree. I think Jim is about as sincere with his endorsement of 5HE as he was regarding his love he had for the Penta.

But this whole notion that he is somehow promoting death because of what his hat says is ridiculous. Like someone else said, Tiger used to be sponsored by Buick. Do you have any idea how many people have died in buicks in the last 20 years?

[dmbgolfer]

Not only has it been linked to 13 deaths, but it is also a choking hazard.

You see what I did there?

Edited by dmbgolfer, 15 November 2012 - 12:28 PM.

[Vindog]

dmbgolfer, on 15 November 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

Not only has it been linked to 13 deaths, but it is also a choking hazard.

You see what I did there?

+1 for the quip

-2 for not letting it marinate for a bit

[bcflyguy1]

KYMAR, on 15 November 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

mwkbmw, on 15 November 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

Furyk doesn

bcflyguy1, on 15 November 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

13 deaths linked to the stuff isn't what scares me.  Here is what does:

1. A snap-hooked 3 wood at crunch time in the US Open.
2. Putter going off like a shotgun on 18th green at Firestone.
3. Putter again going off like a shotgun at the Ryder Cup.

Sure makes you want to go use the "energy drink" he endorses.  Yes, can I please suddenly get the jittering gags when my match is on the line?  No thanks.

Furyk doesn't use the product. I can tell from the commercials that he is lying when he talks about how great it is. He looks like a guy does just before a prostate exam. Uncomfortable, maybe? He never convinced me that he really believes in the product.

I agree. I think Jim is about as sincere with his endorsement of 5HE as he was regarding his love he had for the Penta.

But this whole notion that he is somehow promoting death because of what his hat says is ridiculous. Like someone else said, Tiger used to be sponsored by Buick. Do you have any idea how many people have died in buicks in the last 20 years?

Should clarify that I don't believe he actually uses the product either.  It's a good thing he can play golf like he does, because he'd struggle to sell water in the middle of the Sahara.  However, I'm sure the people at 5HE were cringing at the moments I mentioned.

[KYMAR]

bcflyguy1, on 15 November 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

KYMAR, on 15 November 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

mwkbmw, on 15 November 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

Furyk doesn

bcflyguy1, on 15 November 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

13 deaths linked to the stuff isn't what scares me.  Here is what does:

1. A snap-hooked 3 wood at crunch time in the US Open.
2. Putter going off like a shotgun on 18th green at Firestone.
3. Putter again going off like a shotgun at the Ryder Cup.

Sure makes you want to go use the "energy drink" he endorses.  Yes, can I please suddenly get the jittering gags when my match is on the line?  No thanks.

Furyk doesn't use the product. I can tell from the commercials that he is lying when he talks about how great it is. He looks like a guy does just before a prostate exam. Uncomfortable, maybe? He never convinced me that he really believes in the product.

I agree. I think Jim is about as sincere with his endorsement of 5HE as he was regarding his love he had for the Penta.

But this whole notion that he is somehow promoting death because of what his hat says is ridiculous. Like someone else said, Tiger used to be sponsored by Buick. Do you have any idea how many people have died in buicks in the last 20 years?

Should clarify that I don't believe he actually uses the product either.  It's a good thing he can play golf like he does, because he'd struggle to sell water in the middle of the Sahara.  However, I'm sure the people at 5HE were cringing at the moments I mentioned.

Can you imagine how twitchy those execs were at the RC? After watching him melt down at the US open, and his oh no's! There is vomit all over my shoes! finish at Firestone they must have been 50/50 whether they wanted him on TV at all. I am sure they were thinking "THANK GOD he can't wear our hat at the RC!"

[Vindog]

http://www.nytimes.c...orts.html?_r=2

I feel as if we should have at least one article for reference's sake.

[Matty T]

What a lot of people don't realize is most of these deaths that occured are partially due to underlying heart conditions, and the high dose of caffeine puts quite a bit of stress on the heart when too much is ingested in a short period.

[Vindog]

Also I don't know if the FDA has "linked" 5he to the deaths.  In fact in the article it says that it hasn't, however, they (and other energy drinks) are mentioned

[Llortamaisey]

Vindog, on 15 November 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:

Also I don't know if the FDA has "linked" 5he to the deaths.  In fact in the article it says that it hasn't, however, they (and other energy drinks) are mentioned

Could be the bath salts they took with the energy drinks but the article conveniently leaves that part out.

[Vindog]

Llortamaisey, on 15 November 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

Vindog, on 15 November 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:

Also I don't know if the FDA has "linked" 5he to the deaths.  In fact in the article it says that it hasn't, however, they (and other energy drinks) are mentioned

Could be the bath salts they took with the energy drinks but the article conveniently leaves that part out.

http://www.urbandict...m=Butt Chugging

Edited by Vindog, 15 November 2012 - 01:55 PM.

[Llortamaisey]

Vindog, on 15 November 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

Llortamaisey, on 15 November 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

Vindog, on 15 November 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:

Also I don't know if the FDA has "linked" 5he to the deaths.  In fact in the article it says that it hasn't, however, they (and other energy drinks) are mentioned

Could be the bath salts they took with the energy drinks but the article conveniently leaves that part out.

http://www.urbandict...m=Butt Chugging

Does that really work? Sounds like I have homework this weekend.

[Ping_Ho]

Kevin Na should come up with energy shot called 7 hour energy

[nbg352]

Llortamaisey, on 15 November 2012 - 08:16 AM, said:

I wouldn't get a hard on about it. Viagra/Cialis kills more people per year and they still do plenty of advertising in golf and on the tour.

The real problem is why doesn't someone come up with a 6 hour energy? That's a 1/4 of the day. Seems more appropriate to me. Plus it's one hour more than 5. You could sell it for the same price so it's like getting one hour for free.

"cause a round of golf now takes 5 hours, maybe.....just a thought....

[nbg352]

Matty T, on 15 November 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

What a lot of people don't realize is most of these deaths that occured are partially due to underlying heart conditions, and the high dose of caffeine puts quite a bit of stress on the heart when too much is ingested in a short period.

Yeah, can you imagine what a cocktail of Cialis, 5he and nitro glycerin could do to a guy?

[bscinstnct]

Tragic.

And if the label does not accurately describe what and how much of "what" is in it, that is bad.

But,caffiene (sp) is not some sort of regulated substance, I don't think.

People need to be aware of what they are consuming and their medical history.

Then again, IF it is determined that a reasonable person was not appropriately warned of what is in a product and the potential health risks

This company may find itself tested.

And Jim can endorse Rogaine!

[4thand11]

Furyk is such a weird choice as spokesman for an energy drink... guy plays at a snail's pace and is about as exciting as watching paint dry... ambien would make more sense

[farmer]

A vet friend of mine told me that you can crash if you take a lot of B12, because it leaves pretty fast.  I don't know about the health issues, but it tastes like something made as a prank, and the aftertaste does indeed last longer than the advertised 5 hours.  I played in a tournament where it was given as an entry prize, and if it did anything for me, I couldn't tell.  Except for the aftertaste, which motivated me to drink a lot of water.

[prsgtrman]

yeah linking 5 hour energy to a death is like linking the cheeseburger they ate before they died to their death. its the 20 shots they decided to do that killed them.

[Dire Wolf]

http://www.5hourenergy.com/QandA.asp

Let's not pretend the product is 100% safe for everyone.  Even the makers have warnings and limitations listed.  It is not the same as a food allergy or "water overdose", which is silly.

[Break68]

A guy at work drank a 5 Hour Energy one afternoon in the summer and he was bouncing off the walls. I wanted to slap him he was so annoying, he couldn't stop babbling and shaking.

[scotee]

stoverny, on 15 November 2012 - 09:12 PM, said:

Furyk is such a weird choice as spokesman for an energy drink... guy plays at a snail's pace and is about as exciting as watching paint dry... ambien would make more sense

Exactly!

[biolagolfer]

Why does Jim Furyk promote 5 Hour Energy you ask?

Because he has more energy, feels more energized, and he's not tired anymore!

[HackerVance]

It seems that all of these pros will push anything for a price. I guess that's ok.  I don't have any problem with Furyk.  Yeah, he is prone to choking.  I'm sure that I would too.  But, he seems to be a bigger shill than most of the others.  I really expect to see him selling Shamwow or spray on rubber soon.