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[Callaway_HarryA]

leontom16, on 23 November 2012 - 06:11 AM, said:

JB lefty, on 22 November 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

Has a release date for these been scheduled? At the same time the new extreme gets released would be great.

If not the same date at least the same month...

Agreed.

[smackygolf]

Callaway_HarryA, on 23 November 2012 - 09:21 AM, said:

MCoz, on 23 November 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

Callaway_HarryA, on 22 November 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

JGalls, on 22 November 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

It's going to be so good it's going to knock the RBZ out off his bag.... And it should for yours too!

I can see the print ad now

Hey that's pretty good right there...

I appreciate your info and your comments throughout this site. But I have yet to see any plausible answers to my concerns in above posts concerning timing of legal clubs that are "revolutionary" and in the sales reps hands when Phil has had to use a competitors club just a couple of weeks earlier. I know how Callaway takes care of him (among other key staff players). I have been around for a long time and I know how this works. This doesn't fit any reasonable time frame unless the reps have non-conforming clubs in their hands (which I know has happened before, by someone OTHER than Callaway quite a few years ago). I don't mean to cause trouble here but I will question things by anyone that doesn't sound or seem "kosher".
I realize that you may not be in a position to answer or comment on this. But I have to question it. In the meantime I look forward to seeing what you have coming. TM has had a stronghold in this catagory recently and now with Nike getting a lot of new attention for dynamic new designs, this promises that 2013 could be a big year in experimentation and maybe a very big year for the OEMS (not just TMAG).
Good luck, we will all be paying attention. I can always find room in the bag for someting that works and I am never afraid to tout it.

Thanks for the post. I'm definitely in a position to comment on this. Our reps do not have samples of the XHot Pro fairway, which comes in the lower lofts. They only have one sample each of the XHot fairway. 15 degree.

Hmmm...curioser and curioser. you are saying they have NEITHER the 13.5 or the 15*? That's weird. I can post a pic of the 15* next to the regular 3wd at address. Do I have your permission?

[Callaway_HarryA]

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It's going to be so good it's going to knock the RBZ out off his bag.... And it should for yours too!

I can see the print ad now
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Hey that's pretty good right there...
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I appreciate your info and your comments throughout this site. But I have yet to see any plausible answers to my concerns in above posts concerning timing of legal clubs that are "revolutionary" and in the sales reps hands when Phil has had to use a competitors club just a couple of weeks earlier. I know how Callaway takes care of him (among other key staff players). I have been around for a long time and I know how this works. This doesn't fit any reasonable time frame unless the reps have non-conforming clubs in their hands (which I know has happened before, by someone OTHER than Callaway quite a few years ago). I don't mean to cause trouble here but I will question things by anyone that doesn't sound or seem "kosher".
I realize that you may not be in a position to answer or comment on this. But I have to question it. In the meantime I look forward to seeing what you have coming. TM has had a stronghold in this catagory recently and now with Nike getting a lot of new attention for dynamic new designs, this promises that 2013 could be a big year in experimentation and maybe a very big year for the OEMS (not just TMAG).
Good luck, we will all be paying attention. I can always find room in the bag for someting that works and I am never afraid to tout it.
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Thanks for the post. I'm definitely in a position to comment on this. Our reps do not have samples of the XHot Pro fairway, which comes in the lower lofts. They only have one sample each of the XHot fairway. 15 degree.
[/quote]

Hmmm...curioser and curioser. you are saying they have NEITHER the 13.5 or the 15*? That's weird. I can post a pic of the 15* next to the regular 3wd at address. Do I have your permission?
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No I am saying they do not have samples of the XHot Pro fairway, only the XHot fairway.

[odshot68]

Harry, so what models will the better players flock too in both the driver, fairway wood, and hybrid (or utility prototype)?

[leontom16]

odshot68, on 23 November 2012 - 09:40 AM, said:

Harry, so what models will the better players flock too in both the driver, fairway wood, and hybrid (or utility prototype)?

I can answer that: The better players will flock to the drivers, fairway woods and hybrids that will suit their swing best when they get fitted!

[odshot68]

leontom16, on 23 November 2012 - 10:05 AM, said:

odshot68, on 23 November 2012 - 09:40 AM, said:

Harry, so what models will the better players flock too in both the driver, fairway wood, and hybrid (or utility prototype)?

I can answer that: The better players will flock to the drivers, fairway woods and hybrids that will suit their swing best when they get fitted!

Thanks for the informative post Harry!

[golfware]

Hi Harry,

Would you say that the new X Hot and X Hot Pro are closer to the Diablo Edge Tour and Diable Octane Tour fwy's, but hotter??  The playability and forgiveness of those two fwy's for me have been unmatched. Only one close to me was the Adams XTD Super.

Just wondering. Exciting times!!

[MCoz]

Callaway_HarryA, on 23 November 2012 - 09:21 AM, said:

MCoz, on 23 November 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

Callaway_HarryA, on 22 November 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

JGalls, on 22 November 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

It's going to be so good it's going to knock the RBZ out off his bag.... And it should for yours too!

I can see the print ad now

Hey that's pretty good right there...

I appreciate your info and your comments throughout this site. But I have yet to see any plausible answers to my concerns in above posts concerning timing of legal clubs that are "revolutionary" and in the sales reps hands when Phil has had to use a competitors club just a couple of weeks earlier. I know how Callaway takes care of him (among other key staff players). I have been around for a long time and I know how this works. This doesn't fit any reasonable time frame unless the reps have non-conforming clubs in their hands (which I know has happened before, by someone OTHER than Callaway quite a few years ago). I don't mean to cause trouble here but I will question things by anyone that doesn't sound or seem "kosher".
I realize that you may not be in a position to answer or comment on this. But I have to question it. In the meantime I look forward to seeing what you have coming. TM has had a stronghold in this catagory recently and now with Nike getting a lot of new attention for dynamic new designs, this promises that 2013 could be a big year in experimentation and maybe a very big year for the OEMS (not just TMAG).
Good luck, we will all be paying attention. I can always find room in the bag for someting that works and I am never afraid to tout it.

Thanks for the post. I'm definitely in a position to comment on this. Our reps do not have samples of the XHot Pro fairway, which comes in the lower lofts. They only have one sample each of the XHot fairway. 15 degree.

Thanks for clearing that up. That makes sense.

[JB lefty]

The XHot pro is going to be a players driving type 3 wood in low loft (kinda like the titleist 13.5 degree FD) and the Xhot fairway is going to be in the traditional lofts for the fairway use.  So where will the extreme fairway range fit in?

[Callaway_HarryA]

Just checked. Our reps do have a pro sample now. More info coming shortly.

[golfware]

Callaway_HarryA, on 25 November 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

Just checked. Our reps do have a pro sample now. More info coming shortly.

Woohoo!!!!!  Music to my ears!!

[Bogey's Belly]

golfware, on 25 November 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

Callaway_HarryA, on 25 November 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

Just checked. Our reps do have a pro sample now. More info coming shortly.

Woohoo!!!!!  Music to my ears!!

Whoa Dang!

[golfware]

Callaway_HarryA, on 25 November 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

Just checked. Our reps do have a pro sample now. More info coming shortly.

And call me crazy. Whereas I've had solid success with the DET 15* and an NV 75 stiff, I've had prett crazy success with the Adams XTD Super and a stock Fubuki 65 stiff. Really crazy.

[TheMoneyShot]

Callaway_HarryA, on 25 November 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

Just checked. Our reps do have a pro sample now. More info coming shortly.

It's about freakin time!  You have my undivided attention now my man!!!

[JB lefty]

pictures please?

[Millhill88]

The Razor Fit Extreme is the hotter 3 wood.  Callaway has a new technology they are calling "Wave Technology".  In testing, they have found slotted fairway woods are inconsistent with ball speeds.  The "Wave" technology gives a greater consistency across the face.  Callaway also will be claiming 7 more mph of ball speed, compared to the RBZ.  
  Look for Callawy to get real aggressive this year with calling out other companies claims of higher cors and distance.  The new management team is bold and aggressive!
  Also, the new Razor Fit, is going to have the same sole as the Warbird had.  Callaway realized, this sole design was the best they ever had, so they incorporated it into the new woods.

Your Welcome!!!!

[OUZO Power]

Millhill88, on 28 November 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

The Razor Fit Extreme is the hotter 3 wood.  Callaway has a new technology they are calling "Wave Technology".  In testing, they have found slotted fairway woods are inconsistent with ball speeds.  The "Wave" technology gives a greater consistency across the face.  Callaway also will be claiming 7 more mph of ball speed, compared to the RBZ.  
  Look for Callawy to get real aggressive this year with calling out other companies claims of higher cors and distance.  The new management team is bold and aggressive!
  Also, the new Razor Fit, is going to have the same sole as the Warbird had.  Callaway realized, this sole design was the best they ever had, so they incorporated it into the new woods.

Your Welcome!!!!

where do you get this info? You know there have been RAZR FIT Xtreme 3 wood pics floating around and the sole looks nothing like the BB Warbird. Plus it has been said their RBZ FW would rival will be found in the X Hot series.

[nikksto]

OUZO Power, on 28 November 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

Millhill88, on 28 November 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

The Razor Fit Extreme is the hotter 3 wood.  Callaway has a new technology they are calling "Wave Technology".  In testing, they have found slotted fairway woods are inconsistent with ball speeds.  The "Wave" technology gives a greater consistency across the face.  Callaway also will be claiming 7 more mph of ball speed, compared to the RBZ.  
  Look for Callawy to get real aggressive this year with calling out other companies claims of higher cors and distance.  The new management team is bold and aggressive!
  Also, the new Razor Fit, is going to have the same sole as the Warbird had.  Callaway realized, this sole design was the best they ever had, so they incorporated it into the new woods.

Your Welcome!!!!

where do you get this info? You know there have been RAZR FIT Xtreme 3 wood pics floating around and the sole looks nothing like the BB Warbird. Plus it has been said their RBZ FW would rival will be found in the X Hot series.

I don't think either will have the Warbird sole.
I bet the RFX will rival the current RBZ and the X-Hot will smoke them both.
However, I've been wrong more than once before

[Bogey's Belly]

nikksto, on 28 November 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

OUZO Power, on 28 November 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

Millhill88, on 28 November 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

The Razor Fit Extreme is the hotter 3 wood.  Callaway has a new technology they are calling "Wave Technology".  In testing, they have found slotted fairway woods are inconsistent with ball speeds.  The "Wave" technology gives a greater consistency across the face.  Callaway also will be claiming 7 more mph of ball speed, compared to the RBZ.  
  Look for Callawy to get real aggressive this year with calling out other companies claims of higher cors and distance.  The new management team is bold and aggressive!
  Also, the new Razor Fit, is going to have the same sole as the Warbird had.  Callaway realized, this sole design was the best they ever had, so they incorporated it into the new woods.

Your Welcome!!!!

where do you get this info? You know there have been RAZR FIT Xtreme 3 wood pics floating around and the sole looks nothing like the BB Warbird. Plus it has been said their RBZ FW would rival will be found in the X Hot series.

I don't think either will have the Warbird sole.
I bet the RFX will rival the current RBZ and the X-Hot will smoke them both.
However, I've been wrong more than once before

You both are mostly wrong… X Hot- think modern Warbird- guarantee it.  DO NOT doubt me!

[nikksto]

Bogey, on 28 November 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

nikksto, on 28 November 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

OUZO Power, on 28 November 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

Millhill88, on 28 November 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

The Razor Fit Extreme is the hotter 3 wood.  Callaway has a new technology they are calling "Wave Technology".  In testing, they have found slotted fairway woods are inconsistent with ball speeds.  The "Wave" technology gives a greater consistency across the face.  Callaway also will be claiming 7 more mph of ball speed, compared to the RBZ.  
  Look for Callawy to get real aggressive this year with calling out other companies claims of higher cors and distance.  The new management team is bold and aggressive!
  Also, the new Razor Fit, is going to have the same sole as the Warbird had.  Callaway realized, this sole design was the best they ever had, so they incorporated it into the new woods.

Your Welcome!!!!

where do you get this info? You know there have been RAZR FIT Xtreme 3 wood pics floating around and the sole looks nothing like the BB Warbird. Plus it has been said their RBZ FW would rival will be found in the X Hot series.

I don't think either will have the Warbird sole.
I bet the RFX will rival the current RBZ and the X-Hot will smoke them both.
However, I've been wrong more than once before

You both are mostly wrong… X Hot- think modern Warbird- guarantee it.  DO NOT doubt me!

It didn't remind me of a warbird when I hit the X-Hot Pro. And it seamed hotter than the RFX to me.

[nikksto]

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The Razor Fit Extreme is the hotter 3 wood.  Callaway has a new technology they are calling "Wave Technology".  In testing, they have found slotted fairway woods are inconsistent with ball speeds.  The "Wave" technology gives a greater consistency across the face.  Callaway also will be claiming 7 more mph of ball speed, compared to the RBZ.  
  Look for Callawy to get real aggressive this year with calling out other companies claims of higher cors and distance.  The new management team is bold and aggressive!
  Also, the new Razor Fit, is going to have the same sole as the Warbird had.  Callaway realized, this sole design was the best they ever had, so they incorporated it into the new woods.

Your Welcome!!!!
[/quote]where do you get this info? You know there have been RAZR FIT Xtreme 3 wood pics floating around and the sole looks nothing like the BB Warbird. Plus it has been said their RBZ FW would rival will be found in the X Hot series.
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I don't think either will have the Warbird sole.
I bet the RFX will rival the current RBZ and the X-Hot will smoke them both.
However, I've been wrong more than once before
[/quote]

You both are mostly wrong… X Hot- think modern Warbird- guarantee it.  DO NOT doubt me!
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It didn't remind me of a warbird when I hit the X-Hot Pro. And it seamed hotter than the RFX to me.
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X-Hot is modern word bird Sole plate; Hotter than Razr X; Hotter than Taylor Made RZB- up tp 30 yards longer.  Lightweight, some who don’t want 30 plus yards in a fairway might like RFX fairway instead… understand?

XHot- PX Velocity lightweight shaft sock; RFX various, slightly heavier, for better player, or players who do not like Lightweight… get it?
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I already know about everything you mentioned. I basically said the same thing earlier (in regards to hotness) without going into too much detail out of respect for the Callaway members on the site.
As far as MY OPINION, it doesn't resemble anything warbirdish to ME. Do you understand????  I mean, I  believe I am entitled to have an opinion regardless if it's marketed one way or another. Unless, I am not entitled to have an opinion, then I apologize for being out of line, and I'll be real good from now on

[resili]

Bogey, on 28 November 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:

X-Hot is modern word bird Sole plate; Hotter than Razr X; Hotter than Taylor Made RZB- up tp 30 yards longer.  Lightweight, some who don’t want 30 plus yards in a fairway might like RFX fairway instead… understand?

XHot- PX Velocity lightweight shaft sock; RFX various, slightly heavier, for better player, or players who do not like Lightweight… get it?

What kind of claim is "...some who don’t want 30 plus yards in a fairway might like RFX fairway instead..."?. Sorry but it doesn't seem much "commercial" at all for a product (RFX) not launched yet that seems to be the flagship series of the brand. On the other hand, the tone used seems strange for someone that claims to be really close to the company or at least to have insider information...

I am very interested in both RFX driver and fairway... Harry can you confirm any of all this information posted and estimated dates to get the details of the RFX and X-Hot series?

Have a great game

Edited by resili, 29 November 2012 - 11:54 AM.

[jwrogers]

2659edward, on 22 November 2012 - 12:07 AM, said:

I don't know. Doesn't add up. Taken separately, they make sense. But, if people are demoing these 2 fairway heads, and they are conforming, why isn't one in Phil's bag. Maybe Phil is waiting on a one-off just for him. It wasn't like the RBZ was a stock offering.

Something doesn't add up and we may never know why...

I suspect it's a conspiracy like the grassy knoll.  We'll never know.   Subversive government agencies are involved.   Black helicopters.   That's why we'll never know.

It could never be something as simple as they weren't ready to show a left-handed model with 11.5* of loft yet.

[Zunes]

From those of you in the know, have any of hit the Hybrids yet? Any opinions?

[smackygolf]

Millhill88, on 28 November 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

The Razor Fit Extreme is the hotter 3 wood.  Callaway has a new technology they are calling "Wave Technology".  In testing, they have found slotted fairway woods are inconsistent with ball speeds.  The "Wave" technology gives a greater consistency across the face.  Callaway also will be claiming 7 more mph of ball speed, compared to the RBZ.  
  Look for Callawy to get real aggressive this year with calling out other companies claims of higher cors and distance.  The new management team is bold and aggressive!
  Also, the new Razor Fit, is going to have the same sole as the Warbird had.  Callaway realized, this sole design was the best they ever had, so they incorporated it into the new woods.

Your Welcome!!!!

No. This is just wrong. You are getting your fairway woods mixed up.

[MCoz]

Millhill88, on 28 November 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

The Razor Fit Extreme is the hotter 3 wood.  Callaway has a new technology they are calling "Wave Technology".  In testing, they have found slotted fairway woods are inconsistent with ball speeds.  The "Wave" technology gives a greater consistency across the face.  Callaway also will be claiming 7 more mph of ball speed, compared to the RBZ.  
  Look for Callawy to get real aggressive this year with calling out other companies claims of higher cors and distance.  The new management team is bold and aggressive!
  Also, the new Razor Fit, is going to have the same sole as the Warbird had.  Callaway realized, this sole design was the best they ever had, so they incorporated it into the new woods.

Your Welcome!!!!

You didn't expect Callaway to endorse the "slotted" heads, did you? Between Adams and TMAG their trademarks are pretty strong (the Nike version is different and not as "active"). It is likely that you won't see anyone elsr going that way without licensing from the the two I mentioned. So to find another technology to promote, criticizing the competition is one way to promote what they are doing. But this could be a potentially dangerous move. The TM RBZ is pretty consistent off of the ground with solid shots more so than off of the tee. That may change with the 2nd generation. Interestingly the new slotted Rocketbladez irons are being lauded for their more consistent distances especially on slight miss hits. We will see, the truth will be in the playing. Should be fun

[RAGING BULL]

mickeytbones, on 17 November 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

MtlJeff, your post could have been written by me.

I feel the exact same way.

It's like Cally is saying (in their ODB voice):  "Look, we've slacked in our mack for the past few years.  But now we're packed with the great big Bertha sack."

WORD