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Review: Mizuno JPX-825 Pro Irons


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:04 AM

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Mizuno JPX-825 Pro Irons (4-GW), Standard Length, Loft, 2* Up from Mizuno standard with Project X 5.5 Shafts (Soft Stepped)

About Mizuno JPX-825 Pro Irons:
The Grain Flow Forged® JPX-825 Pro™ pushes the design limits to achieve greater forgiveness and feel in this “players” game-improvement iron. The 4-7 irons offer a deep CNC milled pocket cavity that provides 17 grams of discretionary weight that is used for extreme toe-heel weighting providing plenty of forgiveness where you need it. The 8-GW features a full cavity design with greater thickness behind the impact for a more penetrating and workable ball flight for pinpoint accuracy in the scoring irons. Suggested Handicap Range: 6-18 (My handicap: 7)

Pros:
Classy, satin-like finish. Fantastic forged feel. Scoring irons are have thinner toplines than previous JPX series. Excellent forgiveness for their size and better-than-average playability. Versatile triple-cut sole design.

Cons:
Not a distance iron. Long irons do not have ground-breaking forgiveness. Completely useable by better players (6 and below), but some may be turned off by the thicker topline. No love for lefties.

Bottom Line:

Mizuno JPX-825 Pro Irons blur the line between game-improvement and players categories. These are not ground breaking, but rather an enhancement of the previous JPX-800 Pros. That’s a good thing for these are all-round top performers. Solid, soft and deadly accurate. While the recommended handicap range is 6-18, but you can bet there will be even better players putting these in the bag.

The Review

Looks:
Designed to appeal to both the game improvement and traditional iron player, these hit the nail on the head. The “not too big and not too small” size appeals to a broad range of players. Previous offerings had cavity badging that were bold and polarizing. The JPX-825 Pros tone this down a bit. The black cavity graphics are understated, but at the same time are edgy enough to hint there’s technology helping you under the hood. The satin-like appearance enhance the technical look. I do wish Mizuno would change the font on the iron numbering a bit. Really, font? Yeah, that’s a little picky, but its squared-off, oversized appearance is a little dated.

With iron forgiveness vs. size, there is always a trade off. Mass is needed all around to help with forgiveness, yet a better player is turned off by thicker topline. Well, Mizuno has fooled you this time and you’ll be glad you did. The mass is still there, but thanks to a clever topline bevel, it appears more like a traditional players iron. You’ll thank them later.

Rating: 4.5 of 5 stars

Performance:

I am a long-time Mizuno game improvement player, from MX-200 to MX-300 Pros to JPX-800 Pros. The latter were are step up from the MX series, and also taught me the importance of custom-fitting (read more on the Mizuno Performance Fitting System here). While these are a different shaft than my beloved 800 Pros, these were recommended by Mizuno and the performance reflected it.

After four rounds of with the JPX-825 Pros, these perform every bit as well as the 800 Pro model they’ve replaced. You can work these a good deal, or play your natural shot and just fire away. Long irons (4-7) employ an undercut cavity design (thankfully not visible at address) which helps with forgiveness and a hotter face for distance. I didn’t find any groundbreaking distance gains, but the consistency was top-notch. The 8-GW have no undercut cavity and are extremely accurate, no doubt helped by the cleaner, scoring iron shape. You can score with these clubs, so get the putter ready.

The flight seemed a little higher to me in the long irons than my 800 Pros. That’s a good thing as it helps stop the ball on the green. I had no problems flighting these lower. Low punches, especially with the scoring irons, were spectacular. They flighted low and stopped quickly and were fun to pull off.

Rating: 4.5 of 5 stars

Feel:
We’ve all seen “Grain Flow Forged” proudly etched on the hosel of Mizuno forgings. They are some of the best feeling irons around. Feel is excellent and uniform with long and short irons despite the difference in the cavity designs. Somehow, these feel nicer than the JPX-800s they replaced.

These are more muted than a blade on mishits, but still provide great feedback at impact. If you flush one, you know it. Overall feel is excellent and uniform throughout the set. Not quite like a hot knife though butter, but very soft nonetheless. These are easily some of the best feeling clubs in the ‘Players Game Improvement’ category.

Rating: 5 of 5 stars

Overall:

The JPX-825 Pro Irons continue to blur the line between game improvement and players categories. They do everything well, in a handsome, forgiving forging.

I consider myself a “recovering forged-iron snob.” There was a time I wouldn’t consider an iron that wasn’t forged. Now, I’ve come around to believe technology can help in all clubs, including irons. Multi-material designs and castings all have their advantages for sure, but Mizuno packs technology into a forged iron like no other. Forgiveness, workability and soft feel. When you flush one, you smile. That’s what the game is about.

Overall Rating: 4.5 of 5 stars

More info on the JPX-825 Pros on Mizuno’s web site



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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:09 AM

Nice review Hip.  Will definately give these a look!

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:09 AM

HAving had the MX-300 a few sets ago... I think these are very similar and a good looking club "to boot".

The sole/sole grind on these looks to fit most swings from a digger to a sweeper....

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:05 AM

I've seen 'em... the topline is a tad slimmer than my 800 pro's, but other than that there  doesn't seem to be much to crow about relative to the 800 pros.  They're absolutely not gonna supplant mine, but if you're looking at switching to Mizunos, these and the MP-53's should be on the list for sure.

Edited by plus8, 11 November 2012 - 06:12 AM.


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:06 AM

Great review! Thanks!

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 04:20 PM

Great improvement from the 800 line!

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:31 AM

Great review.  Nice irons.  I wonder if the faces of the 825 pros approach the COR limit like the regular 825s.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:27 AM

Probably in the bag 2013 :-)

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:42 AM

For my bag in 2013...it's between these and AP2's...anyone hit both and can compare forgiveness and overall playability ?  thanks !

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:45 PM

I would say forgiveness is about the same as the AP2. Maybe 825 pro is slightly more forgiving in the long irons, but not much.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:33 PM

View Postplus8, on 11 November 2012 - 06:05 AM, said:

I've seen 'em... the topline is a tad slimmer than my 800 pro's, but other than that there  doesn't seem to be much to crow about relative to the 800 pros.  They're absolutely not gonna supplant mine, but if you're looking at switching to Mizunos, these and the MP-53's should be on the list for sure.

I tried 'em out today - just the 6i, with a PX shaft.

If' you have read my posts, you know that I am never - never - wrong about anything.  :fool:

Except this time.  I stand corrected!

This is more forgiving, better visual, and I gained probably 5 yds (well not really, but since it has a bigger sweet spot, the carry was more frequent than mine.

I love this club, and I sort of wish I could upgrade from mine.

Also tried the MP64.  It is also a big WINNER!!!  Soft, long, and perfectly balanced with a big enough sweet spot to be fun!

hope this helps.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:53 PM

Nicely done Rob.

I have never hit a Mizuno iron. I've had more people tell me when they get them from the factory the specs are always way out of whack. I never hear this about any other company, only Mizuno. As a result, I've been real gun shy to try any of their products, though everything I read on GolfWRX about Mizuno is always very positive.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:03 PM

Very nice review.......looking forward to my new Combo set---825 Pro/ MP64---should be best of both worlds !!!
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:07 PM

View PostSean2, on 19 November 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

Nicely done Rob.

I have never hit a Mizuno iron. I've had more people tell me when they get them from the factory the specs are always way out of whack. I never hear this about any other company, only Mizuno. As a result, I've been real gun shy to try any of their products.
Not my experience at all.  But if the re IS a slight variance, the forged clubs are easy to bend....

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:25 PM

Very nice review. So I take it these will be staying in the bag? Everything that comes out this year will be compared against them?

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:30 AM

Just hit these last week and I was very impressed. For some this would be a great combo set with the 64's.  Nice review and great pics!!
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 04:50 PM

I so want these in my bag 2013

Leaving Adams CB2 which I had no love for

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 10:06 AM

I really, really wanted to like them, but my miss is either slightly fat or slightly thin. They are not really forgiving in that regard. The leading edge is pretty straight, with little heel-toe cambering, so if you are not 100% consistent with you shaft angle coming into the ball, they will punish you.
I also hit the MP-64s at the same demo day, outdoors, on a grass range, and they seemed to be more forgiving to me because of that.
Of course, the JPX-825 Pros clearly give you better results on off-center hits. But if you are like me, and you are challenged with the vertical accuracy of your club path more than with the horizontal aspect, the JPX-825 Pros will not help you.

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 10:17 AM

View Postavrag, on 02 December 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

I really, really wanted to like them, but my miss is either slightly fat or slightly thin. They are not really forgiving in that regard. The leading edge is pretty straight, with little heel-toe cambering, so if you are not 100% consistent with you shaft angle coming into the ball, they will punish you.
I also hit the MP-64s at the same demo day, outdoors, on a grass range, and they seemed to be more forgiving to me because of that.
Of course, the JPX-825 Pros clearly give you better results on off-center hits. But if you are like me, and you are challenged with the vertical accuracy of your club path more than with the horizontal aspect, the JPX-825 Pros will not help you.

There isn't a club made that will help you physically hit the ball. That's all you. Your job is to deliver the clubhead to the ball. The measurement of forgiveness comes during/after contact is made. If you're able to bring the head to the ball better with another set, then there are other variables there like weight, etc. It's not that another head helps/hurts your chances of actually hitting the ball.

Not trying to be harsh at all and I apologize if it came across that way. I've heard this often and it's just plain wrong.
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 10:25 AM

I really like these irons - Had a fitting yesterday and It came down to these or the Nike VRS Forged.

These suckers feel great and are pretty long.  Nice stuff.


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Posted 03 December 2012 - 04:10 PM

View Postdriverwedge, on 02 December 2012 - 10:17 AM, said:

View Postavrag, on 02 December 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

I really, really wanted to like them, but my miss is either slightly fat or slightly thin. They are not really forgiving in that regard. The leading edge is pretty straight, with little heel-toe cambering, so if you are not 100% consistent with you shaft angle coming into the ball, they will punish you.
I also hit the MP-64s at the same demo day, outdoors, on a grass range, and they seemed to be more forgiving to me because of that.
Of course, the JPX-825 Pros clearly give you better results on off-center hits. But if you are like me, and you are challenged with the vertical accuracy of your club path more than with the horizontal aspect, the JPX-825 Pros will not help you.

There isn't a club made that will help you physically hit the ball. That's all you. Your job is to deliver the clubhead to the ball. The measurement of forgiveness comes during/after contact is made. If you're able to bring the head to the ball better with another set, then there are other variables there like weight, etc. It's not that another head helps/hurts your chances of actually hitting the ball.

Not trying to be harsh at all and I apologize if it came across that way. I've heard this often and it's just plain wrong.

I ususally do not miss the ball. I am talking about slightly fat shots, on which one hits the ground at about the same time one hits the ball. Or about "picker" swings. I would think that a "more forgiving" model of a specific OEM should be more forgiving with those types of shots as well. In my experience, the JPX 825 Pros aren't, compared to the MP-64s, which I find strange.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:50 AM

Having followed the reviews on here and elsewhere since I first hit these in my local golf headquarters a month ago - I pulled the trigger and purchased a set. In my determination to find a great deal - I inadvertently bought the 4-PW instead of the 4-PW, GW (last time I bought clubs GW wasn't part of the set)!

Anyway, they arrived yesterday - straight out and snuck in 13 holes. My playing partner saw me taking the wrapping off the clubs and noticed I was playing new irons, and he also noticed as I consistently struck it right at the pin. The first couple shots I realised I was carrying farther (5-6 yards) than my previous clubs (Cleveland Tour Action 2 - to which I owe an honourable mention as a great little set of irons), so I will have to spend a little time re-adjusting my distance numbers, but no complaints here in that regard.

I'd never before experienced this "buttery feel" that seems to be a buzz word these days. Wow! Maybe I just flushed almost every iron yesterday but I was getting some wonderful feedback through the feel and sounds of my shots - as well as being pretty happy with where the ball was ending up.

I'm a 13 index, and maybe it is all just placebo effect of the shiny new play things, or maybe it's the practice I've been putting in, or maybe it might be a combination of both - but I am excited to keep practicing and keep hitting these irons.  

Thank you Mizuno, and thank you Mrs Puck for indulging me!

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 07:25 AM

I'm a senior golfer and play three to four times per week.  My index is currently 14.  I'm can't decide between the JPX 825 Pro's and G25's.  I've always liked Mizuno's and the look and feel of forged.  The weakest part of my game is my irons, particularly the 6 and 7i.  I know it's my swing and not the club.  Both the Pro's and 25's are in the game improvement category.  I've hit both inconsistently.  While I realize I would benefit from more lessons, I'd like to hear feedback on what direction I should take.  Appearance and feel favor the Mizuno's.  I would say the Pings have a slight edge on forgiveness.  However, the 8, 9, and PW give the edge to the JPX Pro's.  My average score is 88 and I play it forward.  Thanks for your thoughts and insights.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 06:34 AM

Not to muddy the waters but the standard JPX-825 is a lot closer to the G25 than the pro's.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:23 PM

View Postl007, on 06 May 2013 - 07:25 AM, said:

I'm a senior golfer and play three to four times per week.  My index is currently 14.  I'm can't decide between the JPX 825 Pro's and G25's.  I've always liked Mizuno's and the look and feel of forged.  The weakest part of my game is my irons, particularly the 6 and 7i.  I know it's my swing and not the club.  Both the Pro's and 25's are in the game improvement category.  I've hit both inconsistently.  While I realize I would benefit from more lessons, I'd like to hear feedback on what direction I should take.  Appearance and feel favor the Mizuno's.  I would say the Pings have a slight edge on forgiveness.  However, the 8, 9, and PW give the edge to the JPX Pro's.  My average score is 88 and I play it forward.  Thanks for your thoughts and insights.

I just bought a custom ordered set of G25's (Blue Dot, KBS Tours, +1/2") and oh how bad I wantedto like them.... but I have heard people say it and it really is true. You're either a Ping guy or you're not. I am def not! I hate them. The feel is crap (think rocks hitting wet plywood), there is so much offset it looks like the club is a day behind the shaft, a number of shots ballooned pretty bad.

I have hit the 800 pros and 825 pros countless times and to my detriment never pulled the trigger... until now.  I am not totally in love with my 825 pros with c tapers.  great feel, good turf interaction, good workability for those"once in a  blue moon" days when I want it, good forgiviness on every other day when I need it.

I recommend 825's to anybody


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Posted 03 June 2013 - 01:50 PM

Mine should arrive later today.  I have been struggling on my yardages especially the long irons, with my MP68s, so I decided to give these a try.  I just love Mizunos and couldn't warm up to anything else.  I am hoping that the long irons will produce more consistent distance for me.  My direction isn't bad but I just can't seem to hit it the way I use to.  I also went with a regular shaft but may need to bump it up to the 5.2 that was suggested for me, we'll see how these regulars play and how they spec out on the frequency meter.  I will need to get the lies adjusted as they are 2 degrees flat (eBay) and I usually play 2 up.  I will hit the lie board first and hopefully I can bend 4 degrees if need be.  I am alos going to try and insert some dampener before I re-grip them with New Decade Multi Compound mid-size grips.  Anyway, I am excited and will give a report back once I have hit them a bit.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:30 PM

shopping for irons for my youngest (15 yr old), Golfsmith guys were pushing the 825 Pro, while he was hitting forged clubs...

he tried their demo 6 iron of the 825 pro, his yardages went crazy long for a 6 iron, which scared him away from this iron, he continued demo'ing forged cb's of all makes which gave him yardages he recognized

the 825 pro 6 iron is 2 degrees strong compared to his current set, which explained the yardage...is the 825 pro a players club or not? he was leaning toward the mp64 and cobra amp cell pro's...but I would like to get him into something more forgiving that he feels like he can control...

i thought the 825 pro would be it because we love the blunt leading edge and bounce...but the crazy lofts scared us off...

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 01:00 AM

The 825 Pro bridges the gap between GI and players. The JPX-825 Pro is just 1 degree stronger in 6 iron and pw than the mp64 and Amp Cell Pro. Shouldn't make much difference at all vs the other two.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 05:23 AM

I'm thinking of ordering a set of these and having them built 1* strong and a 1/2" longer. My thought is that each club should play a club longer then my current set thus giving me a 3-PW type set. I hope it works...
Titleist 910D3 8.5 GD Tour AD MT 7X
Titleist 910F 13.5 GD Tour AD GT 8X
Callaway X Utility proto 18 PXI 6.5
Mizuno MP-54, 3,4 MP- 4, 5-PW PX 6.5
WITB Link
Odyssey tour black #9 Iomic grip
Titleist Vokey SM5, 52 & 58 PX 6.0

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 10:11 AM

I am really loving the 825 Pros.  The local Mizuno rep hooked me up with a like-new demo set that has PXi 5.5 shafts in them.

TM SLDR 10.5* Driver
Adams 14.5* Super XTD Fairway
Adams 17* and 19* Super XTD Hybrids
TM TP CB (2014) 4 to PW
Titleist SC Studio Select Newport 2
TM xFT 52* and 58* Wedges

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