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[aceofclubs]

So these new irons are longer because of this "speed slot", and stronger lofts, but they only have the speed slot in 3-7 irons. So does this mean you will hit your 3-7 irons longer than ever and your 8-PW the same as without the speed slot technology? If so youd be hitting you 7 iron like 190 and your 8 iron 165? Thats a pretty big gap. I know everyone is saying they are longer because of stronger lofts, if thats the only reason than the "speed slot" is good for what?

[driverhead]

aceofclubs, on 09 November 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

So these new irons are longer because of this "speed slot", and stronger lofts, but they only have the speed slot in 3-7 irons. So does this mean you will hit your 3-7 irons longer than ever and your 8-PW the same as without the speed slot technology?

That is my question as well.  Why stop at the 7?

[dunn]

ROBOPTI, on 08 November 2012 - 10:12 AM, said:

I have not hit them ... BUT ...

I have 2 of my inner circle peeps / the crew  .. who I know - know what they know - one is a TM staffer who has his name on his bag ...
BOTH of these guys have hit them

I hear they are a FULL CLUB longer - and just rediculously good .. and basically TM got it right ...




Hard to not to accept it - even though we all try - but TMAG just keeps engineering and engineering and pushing and pushing ... They just do. Lucky for us all actually - cuz they make every OEM  push as a result or they will be left
behind.

Lol.....!!!!

Yeah copy Adams velocity slot in their woods

Now copy an idea Wilson already did a slot in irons back in 1979!!

Really pushing the envelope

The slot isn't behind the face it is behind another wall of steel behind an airpocket before face so really it does nothing but con a bunch of people into buying their stuff.... Lol


This is what they are very good at

[dollarbills]

BirdieBob, on 08 November 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

http://www.golfwrx.c...30#entry5858427


"rorymcilroy420, on 28 October 2012 - 09:34 AM, said:

The only thing which actually changes is the ridiculously low loft ( 6 iron is 26 degrees !!)"



That is needed due to the lower CG (center of gravity) of these irons (and many GI type irons).
The entire set is designed for high loft but also increased distance in the longer irons due to the Speed Pocket (which was not in the Burner 2.0).
So just because the loft is stronger does not mean the trajectory is correspondingly lower with more carry.
Difficult to compare these with other irons due to the design .... apples vs. oranges.

4 pages of posts and yours might be the only one with correct info about these irons.

[SteveL1]

I think I should get my 16 year old Pings bent 4* less loft and save the $1,000. Essentially the same end result. No, wait.......if I do that I'll have to drop the two hybrids and buy two more wedges to fit between the 43* wedge and 52* gap wedge. Never mind, I'll just keep mine the way they are.

[jwash112]

All I have to say is, its gonna suck cleaning out the speed pocket after every single swing

[Qegurezi]

jwash112, on 10 November 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:

All I have to say is, its gonna suck cleaning out the speed pocket after every single swing

Why would you have to do this?

[kjbowen]

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If u hit your 4 iron 240 and have 12 yard gaps between clubs your distances should be

4-240
5-228
6-216
7-204
8-192
9-180
Pw-168
Wedge- 156
Wedge- 144
Wedge- 132
Wedge- 120
Wedge- 108

That's.standard 4* between clubs.. Maybe you could get 15 yard gaps but that really makes club selection hard

so as.you can see
You.would need a few wedges and a bag with a 20 way divider
[/quote]

I think these new irons will be good for the older golfer who really needs distance help... I golfed last week with a nice fella who hit dirver on a 180 yard par 3, he should get these.

I hit a RocketBladez 5 iron yesterday - it went about 230... maybe I could put one play as a hybrid.
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Was that 230 yd 5 iron on a launch monitor?
I am seeing some eye poping numbers from LMs with these irons....hum.  
[/quote]

Yea... 230 yrd 5 iron?  What do you normally hit a 5 iron?  I thought I was kinda deep.  If I nail one it might go 200.  If I could I hit one of these 5 irons 230, pretty sure I will replacing my woods with these irons
[/quote]

Yes on a launch monitor... A few other guys there (better golfers than I) hit it about 240.

I hit my Adams CMB 5 iron, which is 27*, about 195-200ish. The RocketBladez 5 iron is 23*, so that plays a roll in the distance gain. I'm not trying to pitch these, they are way too bulky for my liking. I just wanted to share my experience.
[/quote]

rocketbladez 5 iron is 23*.

Thats not a 5 iron.. That's a 3 iron. Or maybe a strong 4.

Man these.irons must wreak havoc on your bag.setup

[Chief Illiniwek]

Can't hold it in anymore, troll time...

Look, I know there's a lot of guys better than me who play TM, but for the most part they are THE hacker brand. Constant claims of ridiculous distance? Almost always based solely on loft changing. Like others have said, put PW on a driver sole, is it a PW now? Get a clue. Maybe there is something to their tech in these irons. Maybe it does add a yard or two.

For those saying older guys need the help, no they don't. All they have to do is drop a wedge and add the next long iron to their set.

I assume any guy I meet at the tee with a full bag of TM with a cavity gap wedge that's 48 degrees is a hacker who bought his clubs at Dick's Sporting Goods. Sometimes I'm wrong. Usually not.

[kjbowen]

Anyone and I mean anyone who thinks this isnt .absolute bull is 100% brain washed.
This is simply changing the number at the bottom of the club

the 3 iron is 17.5*

Are you flipping serious?!?!
17.5*????
17.5????

There are alot of players that their lowest lofted club besides the driver is a 17* fairway wood

can you imagine a high handicapped player trying to hit a 17.5* iron. Watch out worms..

Im sure the course will love harry the hack armed with a 40" rocketbladez grass pick to chop up all the tee boxes

and no it won't help old people as they need help with getting the ball in the air.. I can't imagine a senior golfer hitting a 17.5* iron in the air

Edited by kjbowen, 10 November 2012 - 10:36 AM.

[kjbowen]

I'm gonna call TM today and try and order a set

2 inches short
and
5* weak

what do you think they will say?

[dairic]

kjbowen, on 10 November 2012 - 10:47 AM, said:

I'm gonna call TM today and try and order a set

2 inches short
and
5* weak

what do you think they will say?

They'll say: "grow a set of ballz and buy yourself some proper bladez son!"

[rafal]

superman912, on 08 November 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Sean2, on 08 November 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

^^^It's still one less club. I counted them. 10 > 9.

4-LW is greater than 5-LW.

You're missing the point. But you're already playing SGI irons with strong lofts with matching SGI wedges (which is a ridiculous notion in itself). So we can't really explain anything to you. Instead of dropping $1000+ on a new set of rocketbladez 5-LW for a minuscule gain in distance that is probably negligible, why don't you just drop your current 4 iron and bend your current irons to the rocketbladez lofts? You only need to bend the 7, 6, and 5 irons because you already bought into the loft strengtening hype anyways by purchasing G20s. Now you can show off that you have the new PING AtomicBladez and save yourself over $900. If you say, you'll lose the bounce and turf interaction and blah blah blah...dude, you're playing SGI irons and wedges. It matters nothing to you. The consistency of those irons are crap. A well struck SGI shot can differ in precision of over 15 yards, trackman verified. If you still want them, go for it. It's your money. If you think it'll lower your handicap, who am I to stop you?

I can tell you that I use my G20 Lob Wedge quite a bit and I don't even play G20's anymore.  And I am deadly with that SGI club,  I bet I have better short game with it than you with your Vokeys or other grain forged Mizunos.

[farmer]

Outside forum world, I doubt that many average consumers are concerned about lofts, or gapping.  This 4 iron is longer, longer is good, I'm buying these.

[dairic]

I've yet to play with someone who games GI irons and can hit a 4 iron properly. Longer or not is irrelevant if you can't hit'em right.

[kjbowen]

dairic, on 10 November 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

I've yet to play with someone who games GI irons and can hit a 4 iron properly. Longer or not is irrelevant if you can't hit'em right.

your right with the longer comment but i play Wilson Ci7s with project x 6.0s and im a single digit and my 4 iron is my go to club

[Sean2]

farmer, on 10 November 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

Outside forum world, I doubt that many average consumers are concerned about lofts, or gapping.  This 4 iron is longer, longer is good, I'm buying these.

Good point. They probably have no idea about the topic at all...to them a 7-iron is a 7-iron is a 7-iron, no matter the make, model, or year of the club.

[MadGolfer76]

So...has anyone hit the Tour irons yet?

[Redjeep83]

MadGolfer76, on 10 November 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

So...has anyone hit the Tour irons yet?

I think some of the golfwrx staff did when they went to the kingdom recently, there is a thread on it. You arent going to find too many golfwrx'rs that have hit them since they dont come out till feb.

[PingDrv00]

I think it is amazing how much polarizing hate there is for a club, that is not even out yet.  I get it we are all pros on the WRx, but before I comment on an iron; I am at least going to hit it.  I know there are quite a few guys on tour making a pretty good living with G20's and AP1's.  I don't think some people understand when you put so much of the weight, below the center of gravity of the club such increasing spin and launch the lower lofts are required so that the shot does not fall out of the sky.  The spacing of the lofts I would think coincides with this as well.  I have played all types of clubs from the smallest blades to game improvement throught the years, and when you can practice nothing beats a blade; but with limited time to play or practice now I welcome a bit of help.  I can at least say that I am going to swing both the Rocketbladez tour and non-tour before I pass judgement.

Edited by PingDrv00, 11 November 2012 - 10:09 AM.

[glfpunk]

Yeah that's something that is lost on a lot of people. I've tried to switch to the Ping G series and I hit them a club shorter in the short irons and two clubs shorter in the long irons because I hit them so high and with so much spin. This despite them being stronger lofted than other clubs I use.  The loft strengthening isn't solely to increase distance it's to control the trajectory.

But again I don't know why people care. Two guys are teeing off with the same club and they're both using a putter when they get to the green. What does it matter what is stamped on the bottom of the clubs a person uses in between those shots? Are you intimidated or made to feel less of a man if the two of you are side by side and the club he's using says 8 and you're using a 7? If so I think you have some other mental issues to work out on your own. The fact that it enters your head shows a mental weakness.

[kjbowen]

glfpunk, on 11 November 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

Yeah that's something that is lost on a lot of people. I've tried to switch to the Ping G series and I hit them a club shorter in the short irons and two clubs shorter in the long irons because I hit them so high and with so much spin. This despite them being stronger lofted than other clubs I use.  The loft strengthening isn't solely to increase distance it's to control the trajectory.

But again I don't know why people care. Two guys are teeing off with the same club and they're both using a putter when they get to the green. What does it matter what is stamped on the bottom of the clubs a person uses in between those shots? Are you intimidated or made to feel less of a man if the two of you are side by side and the club he's using says 8 and you're using a 7? If so I think you have some other mental issues to work out on your own. The fact that it enters your head shows a mental weakness.

holy crap .
That could not be any farther from the point.

When a person who walks into a golf shop. They try the rocketblades irons. Due to the loft makeup and jacked lofts .. They now have to purchase 10 clubs to cover what used to be 8.

The pw is now a 9 iron and you now need to buy a gw. Or maybe even 2 wedges to fill the gap

the 3 & 4 iron which most golfers can't hit and now your making the 5 iron at 23* odds are the 5 iron will be unhittable to alot of golfers .

So now you will need 2 hybrids minimum to replace the 3/4 and maybe even the 5.

So the average golfer that taylormade chooses to take advantage of now needs to spend 700+ on a 8 club set then must purchase 2-3 specialty clubs.

Yes its smart marketing but morally i 100% disagree and i feel it puts a black mark on the game i love

if you try to tell me a high handicapper hitting a 17.5* iron is a good idea please don't.. Its nonsense. Im a single digit and would not even think of hitting one. Id use it as an alignment rod

[hmx3]

These irons are designed for weekend hackers, who are looking for launch and distance.

Distance controll, accuracy, feel, sole grind...are´nt so important for these audience.

And the majority of golfers are weekend hackers and TM offers a great iron for a good price

IMO that´s the reason, why TM is so successfull.

[kjbowen]

hmx3, on 11 November 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

These irons are designed for weekend hackers, who are looking for launch and distance.

Distance controll, accuracy, feel, sole grind...are´nt so important for these audience.

And the majority of golfers are weekend hackers and TM offers a great iron for a good price

IMO that´s the reason, why TM is so successfull.

do u think you could explain why a 17.5* and a 20* iron is good for a weekend hack?

[PingDrv00]

kjbowen, on 11 November 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

glfpunk, on 11 November 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

Yeah that's something that is lost on a lot of people. I've tried to switch to the Ping G series and I hit them a club shorter in the short irons and two clubs shorter in the long irons because I hit them so high and with so much spin. This despite them being stronger lofted than other clubs I use.  The loft strengthening isn't solely to increase distance it's to control the trajectory.

But again I don't know why people care. Two guys are teeing off with the same club and they're both using a putter when they get to the green. What does it matter what is stamped on the bottom of the clubs a person uses in between those shots? Are you intimidated or made to feel less of a man if the two of you are side by side and the club he's using says 8 and you're using a 7? If so I think you have some other mental issues to work out on your own. The fact that it enters your head shows a mental weakness.

holy crap .
That could not be any farther from the point.

When a person who walks into a golf shop. They try the rocketblades irons. Due to the loft makeup and jacked lofts .. They now have to purchase 10 clubs to cover what used to be 8.

The pw is now a 9 iron and you now need to buy a gw. Or maybe even 2 wedges to fill the gap

the 3 & 4 iron which most golfers can't hit and now your making the 5 iron at 23* odds are the 5 iron will be unhittable to alot of golfers .

So now you will need 2 hybrids minimum to replace the 3/4 and maybe even the 5.

So the average golfer that taylormade chooses to take advantage of now needs to spend 700+ on a 8 club set then must purchase 2-3 specialty clubs.

Yes its smart marketing but morally i 100% disagree and i feel it puts a black mark on the game i love

if you try to tell me a high handicapper hitting a 17.5* iron is a good idea please don't.. Its nonsense. Im a single digit and would not even think of hitting one. Id use it as an alignment rod

How do you know that there will be gaps?  Can you not imagine that the lofts are necessary to keep a normal ball flight?

[mhj202]

chillr710, on 08 November 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

bullie76, on 08 November 2012 - 10:33 AM, said:

chillr710, on 08 November 2012 - 05:27 AM, said:

I grabbed a 4 iron and pumped it 240 yards. And SO easy to hit....

Please tell me you are 58 years old. I will buy a set if so.

Haha, I'll make you feel better by saying yes! :-P

mx6262, on 08 November 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

If you can hit a 4 iron 240, how far do you hit your driver? 450?

I know that swing speeds are 100+ hitting a 4 iron 240 thats done on tour now. Or so they say on TV...

What does a 85-95 swing speed hit the tour model? Theses yardage are a little hard to belive. IMHO

I'll get a set if its this good, Playing CB2's and love them....Longer than my last set and easer to hit.

Looking forward to the Tour Irons.....

I carry my driver around 270 yrds. Driver SS av 110-115. 6iron, 96mph

The thing is, the 3 of us hitting it were all getting the same numbers. One guy a little less and he wasnt as aggressive. But still we here having a good laugh looking at the numbers coming up on track man.

These Irons will really help with the guys looking for more distance in there irons. But as mentioned above.. Irons are for precision.. Im much happier being 1-2 clubs shorter but having control and putting it where I want. (not all the time though) =P

Were you hitting stock shafts in the RocketBallz and RocketBladz?  Stock stiff?

[Lobber]

I am sure they are great irons for some but as my hcp has gone from 11 to 6 I am more interested in distance CONTROL and accuracy as opposed to just length   Feel is also important. That's why I am playing MP 64s and won't get bit ny the RBladz bug Tour or regular models

[golfpros1]

I'm pretty excited to try the rocketbladez tour model.  The technology that talyormade and adams are using really does work.  In woods i've seen it first hand, and it only makes sense that the same will be true for irons.

Some have said it's not practical to have irons that go further, but I disagree with that.  Even at the tour level, it has to be statistically an advantage to be hitting a 7 or 6 iron over say a 5 or 4 iron.  There's a reason why the bombers generally dominate the pro tours.  

As far as needing more wedges, I would say you need to play from harder tees.  If you have wedge into every green, you're not playing the right tee box.  Also, this technology seems to be more about increasing the size of the sweetspot than distance... distance is just a by product of a thinner face that raises the ability to transfer energy to the ball.

[superman912]

glfpunk, on 11 November 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

Yeah that's something that is lost on a lot of people. I've tried to switch to the Ping G series and I hit them a club shorter in the short irons and two clubs shorter in the long irons because I hit them so high and with so much spin. This despite them being stronger lofted than other clubs I use.  The loft strengthening isn't solely to increase distance it's to control the trajectory.

But again I don't know why people care. Two guys are teeing off with the same club and they're both using a putter when they get to the green. What does it matter what is stamped on the bottom of the clubs a person uses in between those shots? Are you intimidated or made to feel less of a man if the two of you are side by side and the club he's using says 8 and you're using a 7? If so I think you have some other mental issues to work out on your own. The fact that it enters your head shows a mental weakness.

Yea you're definitely missing the point. It doesn't have to do with ego. It has to do with improving a player's game. No matter if you are a single digit or a 30 handicap, nobody should be buying into this rocketbladez garbage. Neither type of player can/will hit a 17.5* iron, and you'll need at least one more wedge to fill the gap you have from playing a 45* pitching wedge. It makes no sense. The loft strengtening is just to claim 14 more yards per iron. What's the weekend hacker going to do for a 100 yard shot? They technically don't have a pitching wedge anymore. I haven't played with anyone that gloats about their 40* 9 iron going 140 or whatever. I'd love to see what they'd say though.

[Conrad1953]

You need high club head speed to hit a 17.5 degree
iron. A low cg isn't enough. The ball won't fly without
sufficient backspin and that takes speed to generate.

For most people I can't see these replacing FWs and
hybrids. More likely people will stop at a 5 or 6 iron
after they hit enough crooked 3 and 4 irons.