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#1 rocker40

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 09:15 PM

Ive been looking for video's explaining Hogans finish and finally i see a video.
But how do you add this type of finish into your swing?



thanks...


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 09:39 PM

I think it depends on the type of shot he's trying to hit and the desired trajectory.   Doubtful he finished all of his shots that way.
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:42 PM

View PostStevenF, on 06 November 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

I think it depends on the type of shot he's trying to hit and the desired trajectory.   Doubtful he finished all of his shots that way.

Watch this - every swing finishes high left -



rocker - you don't get it by trying to make your hands go low and left!

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 02:25 PM

L side extension, 2nd tilt, big cog shift, etc contribute to the high hands. What's great about him is he's on elbow plane at p6 and does all this; most are on tsp and compensate by bending the plane left, with lower finish. They have it backward, basically.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 02:32 PM

The finish is one of my favorite parts about Hogan's swing.   I love the extension past impact and the way his left side extends so high with that high finish.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:09 PM

So when did the milf advertisements come to the Hogan Forum?  Is that what it takes to get some traffic around here since there is no more aguments?  Cleavage rather than violence! :idhitit:

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:28 PM

View Postchrisgilly09, on 07 November 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

...most are on tsp and compensate by bending the plane left, with lower finish. They have it backward, basically.

Exactly right!  Just like this at :50



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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:31 PM

View Postej002, on 07 November 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

So when did the milf advertisements come to the Hogan Forum?  Is that what it takes to get some traffic around here since there is no more aguments?  Cleavage rather than violence! :idhitit:

What's this all about???

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:31 PM

I don't know but there were some questionable banner adverstisments that caught my eye...

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 05:54 PM

Targeted at you EJ, based on your internet search history!  hehe


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:04 PM

View Postrocker40, on 06 November 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

Ive been looking for video's explaining Hogans finish and finally i see a video.
But how do you add this type of finish into your swing?



thanks...

The problem with Christo trying to emulate Hogan's finish is that in this DTL view, the clubhead "exits" right on top of his left shoulder.  Hogan's is a couple of inches above the belly button, a fact that the anti-low/left crowd never want to acknowledge or seem to be able to explain.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:54 PM

Yeah, I am not sure if he is getting this from Martin (who I know he worked with), or the ABS crowd.  The ABS guys like that Peter Senior lift up your arm thing.  Were that gets you, I have no idea, maybe Brad will show up... Martin did have an idea called "one time" were he basically tried to exert all his energy into the ball - gave him some nice extension, but he didn't lift up like this guy does.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:30 AM

L elbow at finish's a dead giveaway I think, Mizjoe

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:54 AM

View PostMizunoJoe, on 07 November 2012 - 01:42 PM, said:



rocker - you don't get it by trying to make your hands go low and left!

Sorry MJ, but if you think so, you have not well understood what low and left means. For me it has been the only way to get high finish.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:41 AM

MizunoJoe - In the clip that you posted above, looking at the first DTL swing (:10), how would you describe the path of Hogan's hands post-impact?


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 01:54 PM

View PostCrab Daddy, on 09 November 2012 - 10:41 AM, said:

MizunoJoe - In the clip that you posted above, looking at the first DTL swing (:10), how would you describe the path of Hogan's hands post-impact?

Left and moving UP, versus Kuchar, who's hands are moving left and staying low with the left elbow moving low and around as chrisgilly pointed out.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 02:08 PM

View PostMizunoJoe, on 09 November 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

View PostCrab Daddy, on 09 November 2012 - 10:41 AM, said:

MizunoJoe - In the clip that you posted above, looking at the first DTL swing (:10), how would you describe the path of Hogan's hands post-impact?

Left and moving UP, versus Kuchar, who's hands are moving left and staying low with the left elbow moving low and around as chrisgilly pointed out.

I agree with that, but sees that the intention is to keep them low just one foot after impact. The main point is LEFT, not straight toward the target. Every good player I have measured got his hands rising already at impact and that's mainly because left shoulder is pulling them up. So the player is keeping them as down as possible instead of lifting them up by bending the elbows.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 02:25 PM

Not going to be popular, but maybe that's a natural, un-manipulated release of his swing.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 03:43 PM

View PostTeeAce, on 09 November 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:

View PostMizunoJoe, on 09 November 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

View PostCrab Daddy, on 09 November 2012 - 10:41 AM, said:

MizunoJoe - In the clip that you posted above, looking at the first DTL swing (:10), how would you describe the path of Hogan's hands post-impact?

Left and moving UP, versus Kuchar, who's hands are moving left and staying low with the left elbow moving low and around as chrisgilly pointed out.

I agree with that, but sees that the intention is to keep them low just one foot after impact. The main point is LEFT, not straight toward the target. Every good player I have measured got his hands rising already at impact and that's mainly because left shoulder is pulling them up. So the player is keeping them as down as possible instead of lifting them up by bending the elbows.

Look at the swing in the Mystique video at 1:09 - Hogan's left elbow bends very early while his right arm is thrown upward between the head and left shoulder.  He goes low to high, while Kuchar goes low to not so high.  In the Kuchar vid, his right arm bisects his upper left arm and his hands don't go much above shoulder level from :48 onward.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 03:54 PM

View PostMizunoJoe, on 09 November 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

View PostTeeAce, on 09 November 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:

View PostMizunoJoe, on 09 November 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

View PostCrab Daddy, on 09 November 2012 - 10:41 AM, said:

MizunoJoe - In the clip that you posted above, looking at the first DTL swing (:10), how would you describe the path of Hogan's hands post-impact?

Left and moving UP, versus Kuchar, who's hands are moving left and staying low with the left elbow moving low and around as chrisgilly pointed out.

I agree with that, but sees that the intention is to keep them low just one foot after impact. The main point is LEFT, not straight toward the target. Every good player I have measured got his hands rising already at impact and that's mainly because left shoulder is pulling them up. So the player is keeping them as down as possible instead of lifting them up by bending the elbows.

Look at the swing in the Mystique video at 1:09 - Hogan's left elbow bends very early while his right arm is thrown upward between the head and left shoulder.  He goes low to high, while Kuchar goes low to not so high.  In the Kuchar vid, his right arm bisects his upper left arm and his hands don't go much above shoulder level from :48 onward.

Yes MJ, we are talking totally different thing. I talk about the distance about 1-2 feet before impact to 1- 2 feet past impact. If you watch my opposite circles or door drill videos, you can see I've never talked about keeping hands low. I love high finish, but when I talk about low and left, it's the hands movement at impact and already before it.


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:04 PM

View PostMizunoJoe, on 09 November 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

View PostTeeAce, on 09 November 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:

View PostMizunoJoe, on 09 November 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

View PostCrab Daddy, on 09 November 2012 - 10:41 AM, said:

MizunoJoe - In the clip that you posted above, looking at the first DTL swing (:10), how would you describe the path of Hogan's hands post-impact?

Left and moving UP, versus Kuchar, who's hands are moving left and staying low with the left elbow moving low and around as chrisgilly pointed out.

I agree with that, but sees that the intention is to keep them low just one foot after impact. The main point is LEFT, not straight toward the target. Every good player I have measured got his hands rising already at impact and that's mainly because left shoulder is pulling them up. So the player is keeping them as down as possible instead of lifting them up by bending the elbows.

Look at the swing in the Mystique video at 1:09 - Hogan's left elbow bends very early while his right arm is thrown upward between the head and left shoulder.  He goes low to high, while Kuchar goes low to not so high.  In the Kuchar vid, his right arm bisects his upper left arm and his hands don't go much above shoulder level from :48 onward.

Kuch certainly stays lower. He looks like never gets unfolded all the way. If T Rex played golf...
But, looking at 1:47 in the Mystique video, Hogan seems to exit well below the shoulder. Granted it is not perfectly DTL. Is that the difference between woods and irons?
From my own experience at flailing on the range, when I try to go through the ball low and left, I have to get a more forceful rotation to square the clubface, which also results in a high finish. Haven't gotten those attempts on video, so who knows what the hell I'm actually doing. :)

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 01:23 AM

I my thoughts its 45 degree thing. Hands are releasing 45 degrees to the left and left hip works just to opposite direction. By that those forces are balanced and hands can get a free ride to the high finish.




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