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[TRS30]

A set is up on the bay for sale in 12 hours and am thinking of pulling the trigger........

How easy or hard are these to hit? I have never hit a blade before so am abit worried will be too much club for me.

I am a 6 hcp playing Ap2 at the moment.

[skraly]

TRS30, on 03 November 2012 - 04:59 AM, said:

A set is up on the bay for sale in 12 hours and am thinking of pulling the trigger........

How easy or hard are these to hit? I have never hit a blade before so am abit worried will be too much club for me.

I am a 6 hcp playing Ap2 at the moment.

If you are a 6hcp and currently playing AP2's you should have no problem with the Proto's.  One of the easiest to hit players type irons I have ever used.  If the price is right and the shaft fits you than  go for it.

[TRS30]

skraly, on 03 November 2012 - 05:16 AM, said:

TRS30, on 03 November 2012 - 04:59 AM, said:

A set is up on the bay for sale in 12 hours and am thinking of pulling the trigger........

How easy or hard are these to hit? I have never hit a blade before so am abit worried will be too much club for me.

I am a 6 hcp playing Ap2 at the moment.

If you are a 6hcp and currently playing AP2's you should have no problem with the Proto's.  One of the easiest to hit players type irons I have ever used.  If the price is right and the shaft fits you than  go for it.

Thanks for the quick reply.

They are shafted with PX 6.0 which is what I currently play. Will these heads be much different to AP2's in terms of distance, ball flight etc with the same shaft?

Just to clarify its the Tour Authentic X-Prototype I am talking about.

[the.landshark]

You'll have no problem playing them, and they're fantastic heads... if I were you though, I'd double check with the seller about the shafts. Because they had them extended by a 1/2", they weren't custom ordered (guessing), which means they likely have the stock Project-X 6.0's... and are flighted.

EDIT: looked more closely at the photos provided by the seller, and they are in fact "flighted" PX 6.0's.

Edited by the.landshark, 03 November 2012 - 07:30 AM.

[TRS30]

the.landshark, on 03 November 2012 - 07:16 AM, said:

You'll have no problem playing them, and they're fantastic heads... if I were you though, I'd double check with the seller about the shafts. Because they had them extended by a 1/2", they weren't custom ordered (guessing), which means they likely have the stock Project-X 6.0's... and are flighted (likely).

I see you found them. Are you bidding on them??

I had assumed they had custom ordered the shaft as they were 1/2" over standard and not extended them after. Good point though and will ask.

[the.landshark]

TRS30, on 03 November 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

the.landshark, on 03 November 2012 - 07:16 AM, said:

You'll have no problem playing them, and they're fantastic heads... if I were you though, I'd double check with the seller about the shafts. Because they had them extended by a 1/2", they weren't custom ordered (guessing), which means they likely have the stock Project-X 6.0's... and are flighted (likely).

I see you found them. Are you bidding on them??

I had assumed they had custom ordered the shaft as they were 1/2" over standard and not extended them after. Good point though and will ask.

No... def not bidding (already have two sets ). They're all yours.

[TRS30]

the.landshark, on 03 November 2012 - 07:25 AM, said:

TRS30, on 03 November 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

the.landshark, on 03 November 2012 - 07:16 AM, said:

You'll have no problem playing them, and they're fantastic heads... if I were you though, I'd double check with the seller about the shafts. Because they had them extended by a 1/2", they weren't custom ordered (guessing), which means they likely have the stock Project-X 6.0's... and are flighted (likely).

I see you found them. Are you bidding on them??

I had assumed they had custom ordered the shaft as they were 1/2" over standard and not extended them after. Good point though and will ask.

No... def not bidding (already have two sets ). They're all yours.

Hopefully! Not sure what price to go to. Any thoughts?

Any idea how goes to these from AP2's (with same shaft) will affect distance, ball flight etc?

[the.landshark]

I honestly don't know what the "sweet spot" price is on these, but I will say that the sellers eBay feedback score gets my attention, for whatever that's worth... I also wish I could give you a better comparison versus AP2's, but can't. When I went to replace the Protos I played for almost 4 seasons, I looked at the (712) AP2's, but was much more comfortable (visually & turf interaction wise) with a 712 CB/MB combo set.

Good luck with the auction, hope you win

[TRS30]

the.landshark, on 03 November 2012 - 07:45 AM, said:

I honestly don't know what the "sweet spot" price is on these, but I will say that the sellers eBay feedback score gets my attention, for whatever that's worth... I also wish I could give you a better comparison versus AP2's, but can't. When I went to replace the Protos I played for almost 4 seasons, I looked at the (712) AP2's, but was much more comfortable (visually & turf interaction wise) with a 712 CB/MB combo set.

Good luck with the auction, hope you win

You have me a bit worried about his feedback however it is only one comment and seems it might have been a abit of a mix up (email addresses).

Me too

[Jimbud]

The Callaway prototype long irons are not as easy to hit as the AP-2s.  Buy them if it will give you some enjoyment while playing the game but don't kid yourself thinking a MB iron will be as easy to hit as the AP-2. Stuart Appleby didn't even bag the 3 iron.

[fatmouse]

very easy to hit, main thing to consider is bounce angle. the first version will have a significantly sharper leading edge than your AP2s. the subsequent "quad dot" version will have a more comparable bounce. this makes a huge difference believe it or not, i found this out recently.

[dozer996]

I've had 2 sets of Protos with ..R.. bounce...I had a set with 6.0's and S400's...found the DG to feel better for me. I've also had a set of AP2's and would game the Proto's all day over the AP's...the feel is so much better when you find the sweet spot.

Proto's are probably some of the easiest Players Clubs to hit, very forgiving for being Blade like.

[orangeruffy]

If I were you I would look for V stamp Protos. I have had quad dot, two dot and v- stamp. For whatever reason my v-stamp is a combo of 2 dot and quad dot. They by far are the sweetest set of irons I have ever played. In any condition they seem to get the ball airborne and on track. I've played these heads with 6.0 px flight and and s+ c-tapers. Either way they played pretty much the same but I wood dowel the shaft tips on my clubs. V-stamp just means they are conforming for tournament play and they are endo forged. The others I'm not sure.

[TRS30]

Jimbud, on 03 November 2012 - 08:50 AM, said:

The Callaway prototype long irons are not as easy to hit as the AP-2s.  Buy them if it will give you some enjoyment while playing the game but don't kid yourself thinking a MB iron will be as easy to hit as the AP-2. Stuart Appleby didn't even bag the 3 iron.

I appreciate they will not be as easy as the AP2s was more would someone of my hap be able to play them.

fatmouse, on 03 November 2012 - 09:16 AM, said:

very easy to hit, main thing to consider is bounce angle. the first version will have a significantly sharper leading edge than your AP2s. the subsequent "quad dot" version will have a more comparable bounce. this makes a huge difference believe it or not, i found this out recently.

How would I know what version these are? Apart for asking the seller!

[JB lefty]

Look at the hosel pictures:

..r..
.r.
..r.
.r..
The all indicate different setups from factory. There is a thread on here somewhere that explains all the diiferent dots with lofts and the like.  If the grooves are really close together than they are the conforming ones and obviously the ones with the larger gaps are the nn conforming.
I have a set of these 3-pw with px 6.0 shafts are they are sublime. I would prefer the flighted shafts or c tapers in them though.

[rjklein4470]

these are some of the best irons out there.  i have several sets, and played both sets new grooves and old.  I like the older grooves better

[outwardnine]

I'm playing i20s right now but my cally protos are never going anywhere. Some of the best irons ever imo.

[JB lefty]

I muck around and change irons sets and gear all the time. It won't matter what other irons I am trying out or playing with the proto's will either be in my game bag or having a little rest in the study.

[TRS30]

I won the action

Have mailed the seller to ask him what is on the hosel.

Anyone any idea if these are confirming grooves or not?

[JB lefty]

The picture is to small to tell. Maybe put the link up to ebay auction and then we can have a decent look.

[TRS30]

JB lefty, on 04 November 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

The picture is to small to tell. Maybe put the link up to ebay auction and then we can have a decent look.

Sorry thought it opened up bigger when you clicked on it. Was in a rush so never checked.

Will put up a bigger pic or link when I have a moment.

[TRS30]

Can anyone confirm what these marking mean?

[Mr.Fuji]

I believe these markings ..R..  denote more bounce and non conforming grooves due to lack of a V, someone please correct me if I got this wrong.

[rjklein4470]

These markings are all over the place.  It was supose to denote lie angle, but then there was a batch of irons that was made wrong, then it was supose to be the paint color.  The best thing to do is call callaway and give them the number on the 8i, they will give you the specs of that set.

[Mr.Fuji]

rjklein4470, on 06 November 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

These markings are all over the place.  It was supose to denote lie angle, but then there was a batch of irons that was made wrong, then it was supose to be the paint color.  The best thing to do is call callaway and give them the number on the 8i, they will give you the specs of that set.

The dots do not denote lie angle on the X protos or X forged two according to anything I have ever seen.

[kg92lefty]

non conforming grooves...

[TRS30]

Thanks for the replies. Not too worried about the grooves as dont play professionaly (not yet anyway:))

I assume coming from conforming groves (AP2s) to non conforming that they will spin a bit more? Enough to notice??

[RRFireblade]

I have protos (both conforming and non) and MBs (Conforming of course) .....very minimal difference.

[outwardnine]

They are the quad dot higher bounce heads. I have these and they are awesome.

[the.landshark]

It's unbelievable how much mis-information there is about the markings on Callaway X-Prototypes... the dots never had anything to do with bounce on these iron sets, rjklein4470 (in post#24) has it correct.

I'm not trying to start an argument with anyone about this, so please don't take my comment in any negative way.