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#1 chilly460

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 04:53 PM

I've seen the threads on the Mitchell, but I don't see spending that kind of cash.  

Any thoughts on the 3M Polygun?

http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/B001HT6R6Y

They can be found on Ebay for reasonable prices.  

I'm also trying to find specific info about the correct hotmelt, seems to be a mystery as I haven't seen any specifics.  I did see the thread with the PUMA tour and the hotmelt shown there, but there is no info on the website about that model #.


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 06:18 PM

View Postchilly460, on 29 October 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

I've seen the threads on the Mitchell, but I don't see spending that kind of cash.  

Any thoughts on the 3M Polygun?

http://www.amazon.co...r/dp/B001HT6R6Y

They can be found on Ebay for reasonable prices.  

I'm also trying to find specific info about the correct hotmelt, seems to be a mystery as I haven't seen any specifics.  I did see the thread with the PUMA tour and the hotmelt shown there, but there is no info on the website about that model #.

Hey,
Just bit the bullet and bought the Mitchell Silencer and 1/2 dozen glue cartridges. The way I looked at it, I got a trade-specific model
and the appropriate hot-melt. I believe it was $225ish and $10 per cartridge. Not really a significant price difference.

Edited by TheBobGuy, 29 October 2012 - 06:21 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 06:27 PM

Not with a new Polygun, but I see them on Ebay for $50 and under so I was looking at that option.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:59 PM

Is the glue used entirely different between the Mitchell gun and say a 3M gun?

I would have thought a standard 3M gun with an extension nozzle, to get the glue to the back of the club face, would do nicely.

Can someone possibly indicate why the specialist glue is necessary

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:10 PM

Specialist glue is necessary cause often times when you experiment with other types of glue you learn that the application cant stand up to being beat against a ball a few hundred times and will come loose and rattle....   often times even the specialist glue will do this...  But heck, you cant be an inovator unless you are ready for trial and error :)


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:17 PM

I'm happy to innovate, thanks J5

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:26 PM

Is the diameter of the Mitchell glue sticks compatible with the 3M gun?

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:48 PM

That's a great question ws6

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:50 PM

Don't believe so, looks like Mitchell takes a cartridge, 3M just takes sticks

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 06:32 AM

View Postchilly460, on 29 October 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:

Don't believe so, looks like Mitchell takes a cartridge, 3M just takes sticks
Yes, that is the case. I haven't experimented with mine yet though.


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Posted 30 October 2012 - 07:13 AM

Cartridge type gun, TiteBond HiPurformer, Glue Machinery's PUR Gun, and Trend T60 all accept the Mitchell cartridges.  They're carpet glue guns is all they are.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:41 AM

What is the glue used? Top secret?

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 02:57 PM

The Mitchell Scilencer and the Trend T60 look very similar to each other. ARe they the same gun? Where would you get the extension to make it fit into the head better?

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:51 AM

If you have one of the TiteBond HiPurformer, Glue Machinery's PUR Gun, or Trend T60 guns, can you use the Mitchell nozzle, and if not, how do you inject the hotmelt into the head?

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:22 PM

Looks to me that the Mitchell is a private label gun made by Steinel which is a European manufacturer. They do list US distributors but not sure if the cost would be any better buying the OEM. Obviously Mitchell has a unique tip that they could have made for them that you have to deal with. There is an Australian tool dealer that has the Steinel listed at $97.24 AU which should be just over $100 US. Here's some pics of the two guns and cartriges side by side for comparison:

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 12:04 AM

I think this one will work and it is $80.   http://www.hotmelt.c...er-hot-melt-gun

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:04 PM

Nozzles: http://www.hotmelt.c...n Nozzles_10_48

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:45 PM

Hmmmm, are they all getting the Steinel and putting their own labels on them? The molded parts are just too similar to be from different manufacturers. Added to the fact that I highly doubt that Mitchell sells enough of these to justify the tens of thousands of dollars it would take to have their own tooling made. If it were me, I would get the Titebond and not look back.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 09:12 PM

Solid info here, thanks to all.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 09:23 PM

I have thought about taking an oral syringe with a small piece of tubing attached to it and put heated hot melt in it.   The syringe and tubing would only cost  a few dollars.


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Posted 02 November 2012 - 07:15 AM

I think the glue is the gummy glue.

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 09:34 PM

I think the Gummy Glue is correct, and according to the hot melt site this $52 gun works too:

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The hot melt site has a golf club article, and it even states they are working on a nozzle:

http://www.hotmelt.c...n-with-hot-melt

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 01:55 AM

I called Hotmelt today about this gun and they don't have a pointed noozle. So this gun might not work.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 07:54 AM

You have to buy the nozzle.  They are $20 from Mitchell Golf.  The Surebonder Pro-100 will work you just have to buy the nozzle and hot melt cartridge from Mitchell.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 02:26 PM

Thanks for the tip.
I called Mitchell Golf and ordered the tip and 2 glue cartridges. Then I ordered the Pro 100 for 52.00.
Total cost
Gun 52 + 10 for sipping
Nozzle 20 + 2 cartridges 24


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:11 AM

For those who have used the Mitchell Silencer / Steinel with the Mitchell hotmelt, is the flow high or low?  I am trying one type of the Silencer gun design with a Dow Corning HM-2500 hotmelt and it seems to come out of the tip like a Heinz Ketchup Bottle (the glass bottle).  I am guessing that a high flow/high heat will help coat the inside better then the low flow/low heat. Or maybe its just my hotmelt.

The gun heats up to 350* F.  If the Mitchell hotmelt melts at a lower point, won't it flow better then the Dow?

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:53 AM

The HM-2500 hot melt is a silicone sealant.  It is flexible but doesn't remain tacky after it cools.  I don't know much about it but it doesn't sound like it is what you want to use.  The Mitchell hot melt will flow better and will remain tacky after it cools.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:19 PM

Does the glue just go on the backside of the face? Just got a driver head hot melted to make up some weight for cutting it down to 44.5. F'n hate the way it feels

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:03 PM

View Postgoondawg, on 08 November 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

You have to buy the nozzle.  They are $20 from Mitchell Golf.  The Surebonder Pro-100 will work you just have to buy the nozzle and hot melt cartridge from Mitchell.

I just confirmed that  the Surebonder Pro-100 will not work with the hot melt cartridge from Mitchell. I sent it back to Hotmelt along with a cartrige so they can check which of their gun will work with the Mitchell cartridge.

Once I get it back I will post.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:12 PM

Thats odd.  The guys at hotmelt.com told a buddy it will work with the cartridges.  I have the titebond hipurformer, sold at hotmelt.com too, and it works with the Mitchell cartridges.  Believe it is the same gun as the Silencer.  You will have to modify the base for the nozzle.

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