Jump to content

Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at GolfWRX such as viewing all the images, interacting with members, access to all forums and eligiblility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE GolfWRX account here.

* * * * * 4 votes

Scotty Cameron 009 vs. Byron Morgan DH89: A side-by-side comparison

Scotty Cameron 009 Byron Morgan DH89

81 replies to this topic

#1 zakkozuchowski

zakkozuchowski

    GolfWRX Editor

  • ClubWRX Media Staffer
  • 1,104 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 59676
  • Joined: 07/05/2008
GolfWRX Likes : 458

Posted 22 October 2012 - 03:48 PM


Posted Image


By Tai Hornbeck (Pure745)


GolfWRX Contributor


One of the most frequent comparisons made in the “putter world” has been the Scotty Cameron 009 vs. the Byron Morgan DH89.  These are two of the most popular renditions of one of the most popular putter head shapes ever made, the Ping Anser.


There is no doubt that Byron Morgan and Scotty Cameron make some of the finest putters on the market. The 009 and DH89 are simply gorgeous. They are very similar, but have slight differences when closely examined. One of the main differences between the two is the price. The DH89 starts around $500 while the 009 costs upwards of $2,000.


I have owned and used many different variations of both the 009 and DH89 and really enjoy the tribute of both Scotty and Byron to the Anser. The two variations shown are priced above $2,000 and are some of the finest renditions of the 009 and DH89 that I have seen. They are great pieces to showcase the talents of both putter makers.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Model: Byron Morgan DH89

Material/Finish: Damascus/Acid Blue Oil

Weight: 350g

Notes:  This putter is a custom ordered and hand shaped model, also has a rolled top line.

Model: Scotty Cameron 009

Material/Finish:  Studio Stainless Steel (SSS)/Raw Finish-Misted

Weight: 350g

Notes:  This putter is a rare 009 in SSS, released from the M&G in Japan.  Has a flat topline.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Overall shape of both putters (click to see full-size images or look through the gallery)


Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image


Bumpers and shaping, there are very slight differences between the two if you look closely.


Posted ImagePosted Image


Toe shaping differences – there are slight variations on the shoulder depth and shape, as well as other subtle differences in shape when closely examined.


Posted Image

Posted ImagePosted Image


Heel and neck variations – again, you can see some differences in the shoulder depth and transition from the neck of the putters.  Also, the bumper shaping is different.


Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image


Face shaping – very similar, but look at the angles on the toe lines, the 009 has a more squared off toe where the DH89 has more of an angle to it.


Posted Image


From address – this is where all of the subtle differences can add to the overall different appearance of these two putters.  You be the judge.


Posted ImagePosted Image


Overall, as similar as these two putters are, they are not the same. The process and final product are both different. Some people like to buy what they see, in this case, Scotty Cameron does not disappoint. The 009 is available through authorized Scotty Cameron dealers upon limited release. Part of the “fun” part of rare and tour issue Scotty Cameron putters is that the “perfect” putter sometimes is hard to find, which makes finding one you really like that much more gratifying. Getting exactly what you want on an 009 from Scotty Cameron can take a long time and cost a lot of money.


To get the DH89, you can literally walk into Byron Morgan’s shop in Huntington Beach and watch him make your putter.  Since Byron is a custom putter maker, you have more control over what you are getting and can specify exactly what you want. If you are not local, you can place your order through Byron’s team of putter representatives and trust them to get your order placed correctly.


In terms of looks, beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder. The subtle differences in each putter definitely add up to give the 009 and DH89 their own character and appeal.  In terms of feel and performance, neither putter will disappoint.  Feel is very subjective, but that being said, Byron and Scotty both offer milling and material options that should suit the tastes of most golfers.


Remove This Advertisement Viewing As Guest

    GolfWRX Forums

    Advertisement


Wanna get rid of this ugly yellow box? And remove other annoying "stuff" in between posts? Create a FREE GolfWRX account here.

1

#2 Scotty1140

Scotty1140

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,721 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 132137
  • Joined: 07/02/2011
  • Location:Go Blue
GolfWRX Likes : 1056

Posted 22 October 2012 - 04:31 PM

Fantastic comparison. Great pics! Soooo similar, yet quite a few subtle subtle differences.

2

#3 One_Putt_Blunder

One_Putt_Blunder

    Hall of Fame

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,684 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 56737
  • Joined: 05/28/2008
  • Location:Scottsdale Az
  • Handicap:1.6
GolfWRX Likes : 1870

Posted 22 October 2012 - 05:23 PM

Great stuff Tai, Pics look fine on the desktop pc at work as well as mobile phone.

A note to WRX I really wish we could see the pics with the watermarks in better locations though
10.5 Aeroburner TP
14.5 X Hot 3 Deep
18* X2 Hot Pro Hybrid
RSI TP 4-PW KBS Tour 120
Byron Morgan DH89 Rincon Neck deep mill
Vokey 52/56/60 SM5/TVDK/TVDMgrind
WITB Link

3

#4 asualum

asualum

    Major Winner

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 1,042 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 105160
  • Joined: 03/22/2010
GolfWRX Likes : 44

Posted 22 October 2012 - 05:27 PM

Great piece, Tai. Never rolled a 009 but absolutely love my three DH89s!

4

#5 Brando5105

Brando5105

    Putter Hoe

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,977 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 45657
  • Joined: 01/11/2008
  • Location:West Coast
GolfWRX Likes : 15

Posted 22 October 2012 - 05:29 PM

Great Post!!! Thanks Tai

Cobra Bio Cell + 661 speeder
Big Bertha 3w Fuji 8.3TS X
Apex Pro 2-PW C-Tapper X
Satori wedges
Machine M20
WITB Link

5

#6 Pure745

Pure745

    Almost that time again!

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 7,467 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 35341
  • Joined: 07/23/2007
  • Location:Orange County, CA
  • Handicap:+1.1
GolfWRX Likes : 5444

Posted 22 October 2012 - 05:50 PM

View PostScotty1140, on 22 October 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

Fantastic comparison. Great pics! Soooo similar, yet quite a few subtle subtle differences.
Thanks!  When I started taking pictures and writing this article, I noticed more subtle differences than I thought going into it.

View PostOne_Putt_Blunder, on 22 October 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

Great stuff Tai, Pics look fine on the desktop pc at work as well as mobile phone.

A note to WRX I really wish we could see the pics with the watermarks in better locations though
Yeah, I took some really high-res pictures to showcase the intricacies but Zak said there is a trade off when uploading the pictures on his end.
TM M1 460 9.5 Tour Issue - GD AD-GP7TX
TM M2 15 Tour Issue - GD AD-GP8TX
PXG 0311 - Accra 90iX
PXG 0311T 4-PW - DG Tour X100
PXG 0311 52, 56 - DG Tour S400
PXG 03x 60 - DG Tour S400
Scotty Cameron X7M Tour


Instagram

6

#7 golow

golow

    I Gots Issues

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 712 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 725
  • Joined: 05/19/2005
  • Location:CT
GolfWRX Likes : 147

Posted 22 October 2012 - 06:00 PM

Just personal preference but the putter is intended to have soft lines. The 009's straight edged topline turns me off. Simple radius on the Byron sells it for me. I'm aware that those subtleties can be changed in the order specs.

golow™

7

#8 PutterHo

PutterHo

    We all have our vices.

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 2,313 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 67708
  • Joined: 10/16/2008
GolfWRX Likes : 729

Posted 22 October 2012 - 07:41 PM

This thread popped up on my twitter feed and I said .... I know those putters.  Must go read .....

8

#9 linkerpan

linkerpan

    Tour Winner

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 709 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 134575
  • Joined: 07/29/2011
GolfWRX Likes : 197

Posted 22 October 2012 - 08:29 PM

I just don't understand how Ping let any company can create a better Anser than them.
JDM SLDR @ 10, GD AD DI 6S, Jetspeed@ 9.5 Oban Kiyoshi White
SLDR T 14, GD AD DI 6S
SLDR 19, Ahina 70S
SLDR 21 with AD Di 85s
Nike Vapor Pro; Mizuno MP5; Fourteen 710- Steelfiber 95
Kingston GSS KP1; Kingston KP1
Vokey SM5 50, 55, 60; Mizuno MP-T5
WITB Link

9

#10 preacher

preacher

    Tour Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 984 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 18647
  • Joined: 08/30/2006
  • Ebay ID:oldschoolbug
GolfWRX Likes : 27

Posted 22 October 2012 - 11:09 PM

Well done Tai! Both beautiful putters in their own right. I love the camera work so people can see the subtle difference.

--jason


Remove This Advertisement Viewing As Guest

    GolfWRX Forums

    Advertisement


Wanna get rid of this ugly yellow box? And remove other annoying "stuff" in between posts? Create a FREE GolfWRX account here.

10

#11 hebron1427

hebron1427

    Older. Slower. Weaker. AtlJeff

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,801 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 114354
  • Joined: 09/05/2010
GolfWRX Likes : 199

Posted 22 October 2012 - 11:44 PM

Thanks Tai. Well done

11

#12 willsnope

willsnope

    Member

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 194 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 60775
  • Joined: 07/18/2008
  • Ebay ID:williamsnope
GolfWRX Likes : 14

Posted 22 October 2012 - 11:51 PM

This guy!!!!

Congrats just one of many crazy cool putters in your stable

12

#13 newportbeach

newportbeach

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,691 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 481
  • Joined: 05/02/2005
  • Ebay ID:nikevolt
GolfWRX Likes : 381

Posted 22 October 2012 - 11:53 PM

Very well done thank you.
There is no such thing as impossible, it's just a matter of figuring it out.
"Burnout comes from staring into the abyss of abnormality too long."
"It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds the galaxy together."
"My approach to gathering facts, analyzing problems and proposing action is a product of my legal training and experience."

13

#14 stage1350

stage1350

    If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,019 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 664
  • Joined: 05/12/2005
  • Location:On garish carpet, surrounded by 3013 slot machines and 207 tables
  • Ebay ID:stage1350
GolfWRX Likes : 1808

Posted 23 October 2012 - 12:46 AM

Tai,

Just curious.  Do you prefer the sightline or the dot?  Both are outstanding putters.  I'm just curious to your personal preference.
Tour Issue Bridgestone J715 B5 9.5° w/ Graphite Design P9003 TX
Tour Issue Callaway X-Hot Pro 3Deep w/ Project X-10A2
Tour Issue Titleist 585.H 17° w/ Diamana Thump X
Raw Mizuno MP-63 3-PW w/ Nippon Prototype 2S14 X
Raw Vokey SM-5 54°M and 60°M w/ Nippon Prototype 2S14 X
Xenon Solid Copper Element Blade handmade #388

14

#15 Pure745

Pure745

    Almost that time again!

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 7,467 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 35341
  • Joined: 07/23/2007
  • Location:Orange County, CA
  • Handicap:+1.1
GolfWRX Likes : 5444

Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:30 AM

View Poststage1350, on 23 October 2012 - 12:46 AM, said:

Tai,

Just curious.  Do you prefer the sightline or the dot?  Both are outstanding putters.  I'm just curious to your personal preference.

I typically prefer a line.  The 009 was one of the first putters with a dot that I have got in years and also at 34" vs. my normal 33".  I have had some of my best putting rounds with the 009 lately, not sure if it is because my stroke was really on that day, or that a few simple changes helped me line up putts better - or both.

TM M1 460 9.5 Tour Issue - GD AD-GP7TX
TM M2 15 Tour Issue - GD AD-GP8TX
PXG 0311 - Accra 90iX
PXG 0311T 4-PW - DG Tour X100
PXG 0311 52, 56 - DG Tour S400
PXG 03x 60 - DG Tour S400
Scotty Cameron X7M Tour


Instagram

15

#16 bosoxfan

bosoxfan

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,229 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 14841
  • Joined: 05/16/2006
  • Location:Kansas
  • Ebay ID:kjam100100
GolfWRX Likes : 74

Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:38 AM

Great thread, I was a Scotty Guy, but couldn't justify the price of a 009, so now I've got two 89s, one oil can, one brushed stainless steel and I love em both.  I have the sight line on the topline and I love that look and how easy it is to line it up.
KH

16

#17 Skaffa77

Skaffa77

    Dismal River. There's nothing dismal about it!

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 6,280 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 23067
  • Joined: 12/24/2006
  • Location:Omaha, NE
  • Ebay ID:Skaffa77
GolfWRX Likes : 393

Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:59 AM

Great thread!   Fun to see all those pics and comparisons!

17

#18 Sakman

Sakman

    @ryansako

  • Marshals
  • 5,830 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 1687
  • Joined: 06/15/2005
  • Location:N 41 34' 54.0491"

Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:18 AM

Good stuff Tai! Comparison pics turned out great.

18

#19 geesecougar2

geesecougar2

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,880 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 104647
  • Joined: 03/11/2010
GolfWRX Likes : 303

Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:41 AM

I really like the rolled topline of the 89. I think it works well with the overall more rounded shape of the Dalehead, as opposed to a more boxy Anser 2 type which probably looks better with a normal topline.

Hard to tell by the pics since the 89 is darker, but which has the thinner topline? I am partial to a thin topline on my putters (indifferent with irons), which is why I haven't found a Zing style putter that can replace my Laguna Pro Platinum.
RBZ Tour 9* Diamana Whiteboard 73x
Burner TP 07 14.5 Axivcore Green 79x
Rescue 11 18* Aldila RIP 105x
i25 4-PW KBS Tour X Soft-stepped 1x
Vokey TVD 56* & 60* S400
Scotty Pro Platinum Laguna

19

#20 Sakman

Sakman

    @ryansako

  • Marshals
  • 5,830 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 1687
  • Joined: 06/15/2005
  • Location:N 41 34' 54.0491"

Posted 23 October 2012 - 11:48 AM

View PostSakman, on 23 October 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

Good stuff Tai! Comparison pics turned out great.

Seemed to spark some interest in the WTB forum as well! LOL


Remove This Advertisement Viewing As Guest

    GolfWRX Forums

    Advertisement


Wanna get rid of this ugly yellow box? And remove other annoying "stuff" in between posts? Create a FREE GolfWRX account here.

20

#21 Pure745

Pure745

    Almost that time again!

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 7,467 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 35341
  • Joined: 07/23/2007
  • Location:Orange County, CA
  • Handicap:+1.1
GolfWRX Likes : 5444

Posted 23 October 2012 - 01:41 PM

View PostSakman, on 23 October 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

Good stuff Tai! Comparison pics turned out great.

Thanks Ryan!
TM M1 460 9.5 Tour Issue - GD AD-GP7TX
TM M2 15 Tour Issue - GD AD-GP8TX
PXG 0311 - Accra 90iX
PXG 0311T 4-PW - DG Tour X100
PXG 0311 52, 56 - DG Tour S400
PXG 03x 60 - DG Tour S400
Scotty Cameron X7M Tour


Instagram

21

#22 fore_life

fore_life

    Two sleeves, infinite balls.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,562 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 59484
  • Joined: 07/03/2008
  • Location:Tempe,AZ
  • Handicap:+1.9
GolfWRX Likes : 1528

Posted 23 October 2012 - 02:11 PM

Nice right up Tai. I love that 009, and I think I  read an article somewhere talking about  a dot or zero sight line can actually aid in alignment more so than a line.
Cobra biocell PRO matrix Candy Lime altus LT XX flex
                txxx burner 2.0 13.5 UST Attas 80x
                                RSI TP 3-pw txxx x100's
                taylormade xft 51/55/60
                odyssey ti-hot 1
                WITB Link

22

#23 WVP

WVP

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,663 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 113828
  • Joined: 08/29/2010
GolfWRX Likes : 311

Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:30 PM

Nice pics and an interesting read. Thanks for posting, Tai.

Biggest difference is the price, no doubt!

23

#24 nitram

nitram

    Take Dead Aim

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 3,922 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 28973
  • Joined: 05/15/2007
  • Location:WestOK, on the North Canadian Riviera
  • Handicap:+1.8
  • Ebay ID:fmrtrp
GolfWRX Likes : 551

Posted 24 October 2012 - 06:58 AM

Either would be great to have. Great job Tai :hi:

Edited by nitram, 24 October 2012 - 07:00 AM.

M1 430 9.5 Oban Kiyoshi Black 65-04
RBZ Stage 2 3WD T.I. Veylix 888S
Sonartec Md-17 Oban Kiyoshi White 95-05
Srixon Z745 4-7/Z945 8-P KBS Tour V 120X
Chikara V1 Proto 52, 57, 60 Nippon SPB X
Cameron 009 Prototype (A010656)

24

#25 BuckeyeGolfer

BuckeyeGolfer

    Advanced

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 432 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 73039
  • Joined: 01/17/2009
  • Location:Columbus Ohio
GolfWRX Likes : 25

Posted 25 October 2012 - 07:33 PM

I have owned both.  While I would love to have a 009 I have found that owning dh89's allows me to have multiple putters with different finishes and stampings.  I find the subtle differences to be generally negligible in person.  Both aree beautiful for sure.

Thanks for posting your story Tai.


25

#26 BuckeyeGolfer

BuckeyeGolfer

    Advanced

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 432 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 73039
  • Joined: 01/17/2009
  • Location:Columbus Ohio
GolfWRX Likes : 25

Posted 25 October 2012 - 07:34 PM

Some of my DH89's


Posted Image



26

#27 Dscvrr St Louis

Dscvrr St Louis

    #CALLAWRX 12/12/12 & HOGAN Ft Worth

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 4,843 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 105250
  • Joined: 03/23/2010
  • Location:St. Louis
  • Handicap:7.2
GolfWRX Likes : 929

Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:08 PM

I have rolled the Byrons and compared them to my Scotty and the Byrons, to me feel better.  My Deschamps is even softer! LOL!

But I like the look of the Byrons, I love the rounded bumpers and rolled top line much more...soft lines are what my eyes like to see.

A friend has a few Byrons, will get one of his eventually...maybe even the old Rockpile of your's Tai, with the welded flow neck....he knows I want that one!!

Great write up and comparison...really shows the differences.
Great Big Bertha '16 9*, XPHLEXXX Agera X
BB Alpha 816 FW 14*, XPHLEXX Agera S+
BB Alpha 816 FW 16*(set to 18*)Veylix Rome 888 S
BB Alpha 815 Hybrid 20*(Set to 19*)Veylix Rome 988 S
BB Alpha 815 Hybrid 23* Veylix Rome 988 S
Callaway Razr X MB, Modus Tour 125 S, Callaway X Forged 13 Modus 3 Tour 125 S
Odyssey Milled Collection #9
Callaway MD2 52/58* WV 125



WITB Link

27

#28 ihatecats18

ihatecats18

    Member

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 124 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 204367
  • Joined: 09/24/2012
  • Location:Minnesota
GolfWRX Likes : 7

Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:34 PM

+1 for the Byron in this comparison.

28

#29 hebron1427

hebron1427

    Older. Slower. Weaker. AtlJeff

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,801 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 114354
  • Joined: 09/05/2010
GolfWRX Likes : 199

Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:15 PM

View Postihatecats18, on 26 October 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

+1 for the Byron in this comparison.

tai's damascus byron is not a typical piece, and probably cost him almost as much as the 009....but you can get one very similar to that 009 for a lot less.

29

#30 Hifade

Hifade

    Life's REAL short now.

  • Charter Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,700 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 26
  • Joined: 04/07/2005
  • Location:O to the HI O
  • Handicap:+3
GolfWRX Likes : 462

Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:07 PM

Love the look of the 89. Might have to order one up to mirror my 2001 Scotty Tour Newport Beach. I'd have the sound slot cut into the 89, along with the sightline on the flange, and it would be money; especially in a 3x black or chocolate finish.

PING G 9* - Tour 65S & Aldila Rogue 110 Black 70
TAYLORMADE Tour Issue AB TP "S" - Aldila Rogue 95 Black 80
ADAMS 20* Original Peanut - Excalibur Tour
CALLAWAY 4-W APEX - SteelFiber i95 CW's
PING Anser Milled 0
CALLAWAY Black MD2 50* / MD3 PM 54* / MD3 PM 58* - Original Satin PX's
TITLEIST PROV1X - 00's
UNDER ARMOUR - Apparel
UA & adidas & FOOTJOY Shoes

Remove This Advertisement Viewing As Guest

    GolfWRX Forums

    Advertisement


Wanna get rid of this ugly yellow box? And remove other annoying "stuff" in between posts? Create a FREE GolfWRX account here.

30



0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

GolfWRX Sponsors