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[J.W.]

913F-d is good......... details to come.

[scratchswinger]

Killing me. Better than the 910FD, cuz the 910 is one of the best ever.

[ryancjordan]

rocker40, on 17 November 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

Has anyone tried the Project X in the 913  Driver?  Can the shaft be ordered as a "standard" upgrade.

I think I answered this question in the other thread, but while they aren't a standard, free upgrade.  The price guide I had said it was $28 extra, whereas most shafts are 100-300 extra.  Hope that helps.

[rocker40]

J.W., on 20 November 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

913F-d is good......... details to come.

JW.  You are killing me.  Thats next on my list....

[pdaero]

rocker40, on 20 November 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

Im going to try the RIP Phenom 60 and D+ 62.  Similar swingspeed.

Rene (and others) - the Phenom 60 is an incredible combination with either the D2 or D3, and is a great match for someone who likes the 70 but feels it's just a little too heavy. Smooth as can be, and great performance. Definitely the sleeper in the stock lineup, and I can't wait to try them outside sometime!

[npham]

J.W., on 20 November 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

913F-d is good......... details to come.

I don't hit a 3W particularly well, but after hitting it during my fitting, I ordered one. It's stupid long for me as well.

[Qwalme]

So Phenom 60 S and ProLaunch Red S had similar numbers for me - is the Phenom considered a better shaft?

[Guv280984]

BirdieBob, on 15 November 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

Guv280984, on 15 November 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

miz85uno, on 14 November 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

any difference in the weight of the heads? 910D3 vs 913D3? without the difference of the screw on weights. i heard something that the 913 face is 2 grams lighter then the 910 face so the 913 should come with a screw on weight thats 2 grams heavier...is this true?

My 913D3 has a red dot weight in it and there is a 7 stamped underneath! I believe the previous red dot weights were only 5 grams so yes there are 2 extra grams in the head weight than the previous model...

Check that number again as the RED should be 9 grams; I have the GREEN weight and it shows 7 inside.

Sorry that's right, it is 9 grams!

[rocker40]

Finally got to try the RIP phenom in the D2 head. I found my driver for 2013.

Edited by rocker40, 14 December 2012 - 02:46 PM.

[drbonesvt]

Anyone get test the fw's yet?

[scratchswinger]

drbonesvt, on 12 January 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

Anyone get test the fw's yet?

I am hoping mine are here in a few weeks. I picked up like 4-5 Mph ball speed in the 913FD over the 910FD.

[drbonesvt]

scratchswinger, on 12 January 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

drbonesvt, on 12 January 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

Anyone get test the fw's yet?

I am hoping mine are here in a few weeks. I picked up like 4-5 Mph ball speed in the 913FD over the 910FD.

Test it against any other retail offerings?

[scratchswinger]

drbonesvt, on 12 January 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

scratchswinger, on 12 January 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

drbonesvt, on 12 January 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

Anyone get test the fw's yet?

I am hoping mine are here in a few weeks. I picked up like 4-5 Mph ball speed in the 913FD over the 910FD.

Test it against any other retail offerings?

No- I did  not get a chance to. Honestly I probably won't test any other fairways this year. I love my 910FD and the 913 is longer, feels better, easier to hit, etc... So just from a comfort level I would prefer to stick with something that I am used to. I am sure the Callaway X line is really good, but I prefer to stick with something I know. My gut tells me that some other woods will probably have better ball speeds.

[drbonesvt]

scratchswinger, on 12 January 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

drbonesvt, on 12 January 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

scratchswinger, on 12 January 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

drbonesvt, on 12 January 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

Anyone get test the fw's yet?

I am hoping mine are here in a few weeks. I picked up like 4-5 Mph ball speed in the 913FD over the 910FD.

Test it against any other retail offerings?

No- I did  not get a chance to. Honestly I probably won't test any other fairways this year. I love my 910FD and the 913 is longer, feels better, easier to hit, etc... So just from a comfort level I would prefer to stick with something that I am used to. I am sure the Callaway X line is really good, but I prefer to stick with something I know. My gut tells me that some other woods will probably have better ball speeds.

I would agree, last "Titti" would I had was a 909 f3 with a bb 83x in it.  It felt so solid.

Contemplating going back to their woods.  Another reason -personal one, I like the alignment aides on the top, I tend to let the ball creep out ot the toe at address.

[J.W.]

I have 913F-d already but you probably knew that.  I got mine end of October so had some time with it at least.  I think they improved the fairways more than the driver. Hosel looks much better, sounds better, hotter head... really impressed with it.

[J.W.]

scratchswinger, on 12 January 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

drbonesvt, on 12 January 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

scratchswinger, on 12 January 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

drbonesvt, on 12 January 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

Anyone get test the fw's yet?

I am hoping mine are here in a few weeks. I picked up like 4-5 Mph ball speed in the 913FD over the 910FD.

Test it against any other retail offerings?

No- I did  not get a chance to. Honestly I probably won't test any other fairways this year. I love my 910FD and the 913 is longer, feels better, easier to hit, etc... So just from a comfort level I would prefer to stick with something that I am used to. I am sure the Callaway X line is really good, but I prefer to stick with something I know. My gut tells me that some other woods will probably have better ball speeds.

I did some testing this week, the 913F-d had slightly better ball speeds for me.  I did hit a RBZ Tour with 7M3X and the 913 was identical or just ever so slightly faster.  With that said the RBZ shaft is 1 inch longer than mine and the length and head is not something I was comfortable with at all.  Plus I think the 913 looks light years better than the RBZ or RBZ Tour.  That was NOT Stage 2 however.

[Doc Mcstuffins]

SO, if someone wanted a 4 wood FD do you go 15 and tweak it up a notch or get the 18 and tweak it down?

[J.W.]

Doc Mcstuffins, on 12 January 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

SO, if someone wanted a 4 wood FD do you go 15 and tweak it up a notch or get the 18 and tweak it down?

I would say depends on the look the player wants to see... little smaller head that's more open or a bigger head that has a little more face showing.

[Doc Mcstuffins]

ah, good point JW. I like a 4wd that looks like a 3.

[drbonesvt]

JW you inspired me to give the 913d3 a shot. Had a 910d3 and to be honest was a little let down by it compared to my r11s (admittedly it wasn’t fair, r11s had an aftermarket upgraded ahina shaft vs the 910 with on stock ahina) Anyway I sold it like many other clubs before it.

Fast forward to present....Sold the R11s, been gaming an old school SFTP LCG 8.5, which IMOP, is an extremely fantastic head, that's beside the point of the post. My wife ran into hobby lobby for some DIY hell...I ran in the other direction to a big box golf retailer. Ive hit many things in their sim, also my own equipment which I have used a laser to confirm distance on a driving range so I know the distances, and find it to be not jacked up on carry.

Knowing the guys I got them to set up a quick test. They were unpacking an r1 just with the stiff rip phenom shaft 55g (not my preferred shaft), drop it to the lowest setting, supposed 8 degree or whatever that is, didn't measure the face and with TMAG's measurements like women jeans, an 8 could easily be a 10*
Tested against a 913D 8.5* w/ rip alpha 60g stiff (closest I could get against the TMAG shaft) again not my preferred shaft. Setting I believe it was A1

Results. My wife was hot on my @$$ to not spend more than 20 minutes in there.... So no real warm up and maxfli range balls. Took 8 cuts with both drivers. I only adjusted the R1 to the lowest setting. Tennis shoes, Virginia Tech hoodie and jeans
These reflect only my opinions, and are no means the word of god and done very hastily. Im just trying to give feedback after after hitting both. I love both TMAG and Titleist, got both products in the bag. Im a whore with no loyality, which everyone performs the best.
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R1
Better feeling than the r11s and R11, the R1 sound is DEFINITELY improved over both the former offerings. Not a huge fan of the graphics but they are playable.
Performance
I wish I would have taken notes
LA roughly from 9-12*
Carry 270 -289 - best total distance was estimated at 303
Best ball speed was 175mph - there was some tape on the top and bottom of the driver
Dispersion was OK, I leaked a couple right

913d3
To me, feels more solid than the 910. Sound is on par with the 910. But I feel this thing performs a whole lot better than my 910 did.
LA roughly 8-9*
carry 275- 294 best total distance was estimate at 306
Best ball speed - this surprised me - was 177* - this was a demo driver no tape.

Dispersion was better on the 913d3 for me than the r1, Either club is going to provide performance, but the sound and feel goes to the Titleist. Neither is a dog in the distance or performance category. Getting fit properly for loft, length, sw and shaft is going to make one better than the other.
Solid choices for 2013.

Edited by drbonesvt, 12 January 2013 - 10:10 PM.

[sung1018]

J.W., on 12 January 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

Doc Mcstuffins, on 12 January 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

SO, if someone wanted a 4 wood FD do you go 15 and tweak it up a notch or get the 18 and tweak it down?

I would say depends on the look the player wants to see... little smaller head that's more open or a bigger head that has a little more face showing.

Any idea how close the face will be when lofted up? Isnt the idea having adjustable neck is to Jack up the loft when you need it.

[J.W.]

sung1018, on 13 January 2013 - 07:41 PM, said:

J.W., on 12 January 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

Doc Mcstuffins, on 12 January 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

SO, if someone wanted a 4 wood FD do you go 15 and tweak it up a notch or get the 18 and tweak it down?

I would say depends on the look the player wants to see... little smaller head that's more open or a bigger head that has a little more face showing.

Any idea how close the face will be when lofted up? Isnt the idea having adjustable neck is to Jack up the loft when you need it.

Face angle and loft go together that's why I still have a hard time figuring out these one loft heads from certain manufacturers.

[TML]

JW - stop!  I am so loving my 910F-d and now you are saying the 913 F-d is better?  Dang, there goes another couple of benjies!,

[coolmonk]

I just need to decide between a 15 degree or 13.5 degree 913 F-d. Guess I'll have to hit both when they come out and compare numbers. I don't need it to be almost as long as my driver.

[rocker40]

JW when are you going to do a Review on the 913 Fairways and Hybrids?

[J.W.]

When its not 30 degrees outside and I get to play golf.  I hit them great on the range.

[MattyO1984]

JW apologies for coming to this a little late, but I was pointed in your direction. I'm looking to get booked into a fitting day in the next month or so but since getting fitted into my 909D3 four years ago, I've taken my eyes of the ball a little with regard to shafts, etc.

My current 909D3 has 10.5 degrees of loft with a stiff 70g Aldila DVS Shaft. I seem to recall that there was a slight upcharge for ordering that a few years ago, again after I had gone through a fitting. I can't, for the life of me, remember what spin I was getting off the 909D3 but swing speed was 108mph and seem to think the average launch was 12.8 degrees. I can also remember at the time the fitter saying that I should go for something with a mid kick point but low torque... Anyway, I hit the 909 pretty good and feel that the shaft works not too badly for me in general however, over the last year I've hit the gym, lost some weight and got a bit stronger and find that the DVS gets too high on occasion.

Obviously, the Titleist fitting guy will be able to guide me but I'd like to know a little bit about what I'm talking about. A couple of guys have mentioned that given my current shaft and physical changes something like the RIP Phenom might be a good starting point. Are there any other shafts that you would recommend?

Thanks for any help that you can give me!

[Matt97GT]

I have the made for titleist Ahina 72X in my D3 right now.   It was the best amongst the stock offerings when I did my fitting at the time.

Launch Angle 12.1*
Spin around 3k.
Driver swing speed 112-115mph
ball speed 171

I'd like to keep the launch angle but just knock a few rpm's off.  No one has any of the aftermarket shafts available to try, so if you were to make a recommendation between lets say tour ad DI, BB, or the real ahina, which would be the one to seek out?  Or perhaps a different all together?

[J.W.]

MattyO1984, on 15 January 2013 - 11:13 AM, said:

JW apologies for coming to this a little late, but I was pointed in your direction. I'm looking to get booked into a fitting day in the next month or so but since getting fitted into my 909D3 four years ago, I've taken my eyes of the ball a little with regard to shafts, etc.

My current 909D3 has 10.5 degrees of loft with a stiff 70g Aldila DVS Shaft. I seem to recall that there was a slight upcharge for ordering that a few years ago, again after I had gone through a fitting. I can't, for the life of me, remember what spin I was getting off the 909D3 but swing speed was 108mph and seem to think the average launch was 12.8 degrees. I can also remember at the time the fitter saying that I should go for something with a mid kick point but low torque... Anyway, I hit the 909 pretty good and feel that the shaft works not too badly for me in general however, over the last year I've hit the gym, lost some weight and got a bit stronger and find that the DVS gets too high on occasion.

Obviously, the Titleist fitting guy will be able to guide me but I'd like to know a little bit about what I'm talking about. A couple of guys have mentioned that given my current shaft and physical changes something like the RIP Phenom might be a good starting point. Are there any other shafts that you would recommend?

Thanks for any help that you can give me!

I don't see why RIP Phenom can't be a good starting point.  At 108 club head speed you're gonna be in the X range.  I'd go through the stock shafts first obviously. Aftermarket stuff I would look at DI-7 or Kai'li 70.  Let the fitter do his thing, I'm sure if you go somewhere with a good rep you'll be just fine.

[J.W.]

Matt97GT, on 15 January 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

I have the made for titleist Ahina 72X in my D3 right now.   It was the best amongst the stock offerings when I did my fitting at the time.

Launch Angle 12.1*
Spin around 3k.
Driver swing speed 112-115mph
ball speed 171

I'd like to keep the launch angle but just knock a few rpm's off.  No one has any of the aftermarket shafts available to try, so if you were to make a recommendation between lets say tour ad DI, BB, or the real ahina, which would be the one to seek out?  Or perhaps a different all together?

Honestly, this is somewhat unlikely.  Usually its difficult to change spin lower without knocking the launch down too.  There aren't miracle shafts out there.  BB-7 will knock some spin down but its gonna launch lower too.  "Real" 'ahina won't do anything that the stock D+ doesn't except feel a little different.  I think the first time I had that "ah-ha" moment that "real deal" and "made for" were for internet golf junkies looking for something that wasn't there was good for my fitting career.  All the low launch and low spin shafts do exactly the same thing for the most part... they all feel a little different though which certainly can translate into better swings.

IF I was going to make a blind recommendation it would be BB-7, Matrix 7M3 Black, or VC 6.2/7.2 Tour Spec.  There is a good chance you are going to lower launch too though.  But hey if you find one that goes 11.5-11.8 and 2600 that's do-able and could be a positive gain for you depending on what flight you wanna see, what shot you're comfortable with and what kind of course/climate you play on/in.  I know on GolfWRX people make it sound like 3000 spin is "bad" but its not.  At 171 ball speed, 12 launch and 3000 spin is 1-2 yards of carry over 12 launch and 2400 spin.  You'd see 7-8 yards carry if you could get 14 and 2400 but no shaft does that... the golfer does that.

Edited by J.W., 15 January 2013 - 07:25 PM.