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Competitors bags that scare you.


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#241 Thrillhouse

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 11:33 AM

View PostShrapnac, on 24 October 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

Less D-Bag passive brag talk and more scary competitor bag talk pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzz.

I GAVE A SPEECH ON SOCIAL HOMOGENEITY AT VILLANOVA LAST WEEK!

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 11:58 AM

How about the guy in his late 40's with a staff bag/matching clubs, who wears a visor, smokes like a chimney, and has leather skin.  This guy hasn't given up on the dream, wasn't quite good enough for the tour, but is getting ready for the senior tour.  We have a couple of local Class A teaching pros in my area that are incredible players.  Unfortunately, the like the bottle or the drugs a little more than golf.  These guys can be very scary to play against.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:00 PM

View Postsomaplr, on 23 October 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

Are they equal in the eyes of the USGA.  SURE.  I'll give you that.

You take a kid that grew up playing Bethpage...and maintains a 1 hdcp.  Take another kid...grew up playing a short open course...also maintains a 1 hdcp.

The kid that grew up playing the short open course...hasn't been exposed to course length or the fact that you're 10 yards off the fairway your ball is unplayable yet.  He won't be a 1 handicap for much longer after 10-15 posted scores.

I disagree, the kid playing bethpage probably never shoots under par.  Hell, he can be a career high 70's guy.  Playing the same difficult track becomes easy.   To maintain a 1 on a short wide open course means you still have to be able to sink putts and get up and down to go under par.   Bethpage kid is putting on well kept greens and playing out of nice bunkers.  Where as the other guy is not.  Having the "mentality" to go low still says a lot.   Comparing course ratings is not the whole story.  Guys who can maintain low caps playing various courses will probably beat both of these guys.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:11 PM

View Postsomaplr, on 24 October 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

Sorry, thats not the way golf works.  When you are a highly skilled golfer....and golf courses get easier...you score lower.  You're not trapped shooting 75's no matter where you play.  Doesn't work that way boss.

Last try - then I'm done with this...

Do you not understand that the scores necessary to maintain a 1 handicap vary based on course rating and slope?  You might have to shoot 79s at Bethpage to accomplish it, while you would have to shoot 70s at some local muni.  By design, the USGA handicap system is intended to equalize the two players based on difficulty of the course.  And I disagree that some bro who plays at Bethpage and averages 79 is automatically going to go start pouring off 70s at the local muni just because he plays at Bethpage.  One requires maintaining, one requires going low.  Two different skills indeed, but they both bring and equal and unique value to the table (thus the whole idea of utilizing the handicap system - again, not to belabor the point, but so you can quantify the ability of two different dudes who play two different courses).  That's the whole point of the argument that the rest of the world besides you understands/is making in these last couple of pages.  Is it a perfect system?  No... But it works a hell of a lot better than the broscience you're offering.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:15 PM

I'm scared of anyone with a katana in their golf bag.


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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:16 PM

View Postej002, on 24 October 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

View Postsomaplr, on 23 October 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

Are they equal in the eyes of the USGA. SURE. I'll give you that. You take a kid that grew up playing Bethpage...and maintains a 1 hdcp. Take another kid...grew up playing a short open course...also maintains a 1 hdcp. The kid that grew up playing the short open course...hasn't been exposed to course length or the fact that you're 10 yards off the fairway your ball is unplayable yet. He won't be a 1 handicap for much longer after 10-15 posted scores.
I disagree, the kid playing bethpage probably never shoots under par. Hell, he can be a career high 70's guy. Playing the same difficult track becomes easy. To maintain a 1 on a short wide open course means you still have to be able to sink putts and get up and down to go under par. Bethpage kid is putting on well kept greens and playing out of nice bunkers. Where as the other guy is not. Having the "mentality" to go low still says a lot. Comparing course ratings is not the whole story. Guys who can maintain low caps playing various courses will probably beat both of these guys.

I definitely disagree.  I have never met a low handicap golfer that his scores stay the same when golf courses get easier.

I'm done with the conversation as well, thanks.

Edited by somaplr, 24 October 2012 - 12:21 PM.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:23 PM

View PostShrapnac, on 24 October 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

Less D-Bag passive brag talk and more scary competitor bag talk pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzz.

I'm sure that was where this topic started. All this discussion over who does or does not understand handicaps perhaps belongs somewhere else?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:27 PM

The ones that say "Kent State", "UCF", or "North Texas" on them....you know they didn't pick those bags up at the gift shop.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 01:03 PM

View Postsomaplr, on 24 October 2012 - 12:16 PM, said:

View Postej002, on 24 October 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

View Postsomaplr, on 23 October 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

Are they equal in the eyes of the USGA. SURE. I'll give you that. You take a kid that grew up playing Bethpage...and maintains a 1 hdcp. Take another kid...grew up playing a short open course...also maintains a 1 hdcp. The kid that grew up playing the short open course...hasn't been exposed to course length or the fact that you're 10 yards off the fairway your ball is unplayable yet. He won't be a 1 handicap for much longer after 10-15 posted scores.
I disagree, the kid playing bethpage probably never shoots under par. Hell, he can be a career high 70's guy. Playing the same difficult track becomes easy. To maintain a 1 on a short wide open course means you still have to be able to sink putts and get up and down to go under par. Bethpage kid is putting on well kept greens and playing out of nice bunkers. Where as the other guy is not. Having the "mentality" to go low still says a lot. Comparing course ratings is not the whole story. Guys who can maintain low caps playing various courses will probably beat both of these guys.

I definitely disagree.  I have never met a low handicap golfer that his scores stay the same when golf courses get easier.

I'm done with the conversation as well, thanks.

No one is saying the scores stay the same, but to remain a 1 on an easy course that you are describing, which would correspond to an approximate course rating in the high 60s (short and wide open) would require many sub par rounds.   The "brah" from bethpage can shoot 73s all day long on the easy and not sniff a 1.0.    (73 is less than 79 at Bethpage, but a higher HCP).   So his scores go down, but his cap does not.   This is the reality of the system.   All we are saying is just b/c you can keep a 1 by shooting high scores on a tough course does not AUTOMATICALLY mean you can be a sub-par guy.  It is not that easy.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:18 PM

The only bag that scares me is my own...,  on an off day, that 3 iron looks mighty small.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:38 PM

View PostSiegfried, on 17 October 2012 - 08:14 PM, said:



Why should another players bag be of any concern, I was always under the impression that it is me against the ball-thus in turn against the
course ?  Did I miss something ?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 03:03 PM

View Postdriverhead, on 24 October 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

View PostSiegfried, on 17 October 2012 - 08:14 PM, said:

Why should another players bag be of any concern, I was always under the impression that it is me against the ball-thus in turn against the
course ?  Did I miss something ?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 03:27 PM

View PostThrillhouse, on 24 October 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

View PostShrapnac, on 24 October 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

Less D-Bag passive brag talk and more scary competitor bag talk pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzz.

I GAVE A SPEECH ON SOCIAL HOMOGENEITY AT VILLANOVA LAST WEEK!

Or maybe it was a streetcorner.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 07:13 PM

View Postsmackygolf, on 18 October 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

View PostDoYouKnowTheMuffinMan, on 17 October 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

View Postscooterhd2, on 17 October 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

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When i see irons with a spot there i say to myself : "self, that person hits every shot a little thin" and that's about it. The bags that scare me are the ones that have a club or shaft I've never heard of because I know them all, I think

Good observation. One problem....That's a pic of Tiger's 8-iron. You're a bad judge of where the sweet spot is.
That spot is a groove low no matter whose club it is. Hit a ball there and you get that solid but click feeling. Hit it 1 groove higher and get that sensational feeling that cannot be described. Then again, Mo Norman (worlds best ball striker) said you should hit it it a groove low for some reason. I disagree. On the other hand... I have different fingers
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:09 PM

http://www.flickr.co.../in/photostream

Whoever has irons like that in his bag


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Posted 25 October 2012 - 12:14 AM

View PostCartrydge, on 24 October 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

http://www.flickr.co.../in/photostream

Whoever has irons like that in his bag

It's photoshopped.
I put it in photoshop and was able to see what they had done to it.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:02 AM

Worn carry bag with Winged Foot logo.  Newer Titleist Driver, a little beat up, no head cover , older Taylor Made Tour Spoon with a Walker Cup head cover.  Old blades, worn wedges & the really beat up Bullseye putter.  Dead meat.  Haha!

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:50 AM

View Postjmcorr4, on 26 October 2012 - 12:02 AM, said:

Worn carry bag with Winged Foot logo.  Newer Titleist Driver, a little beat up, no head cover , older Taylor Made Tour Spoon with a Walker Cup head cover.  Old blades, worn wedges & the really beat up Bullseye putter.  Dead meat.  Haha!

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 09:29 AM

I would never play anyone for $$$ if they had a winged foot bag or a walker cup headcover
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:33 AM

I think I tightened a few sphinchters yesterday with I teed up with a persimmon driver from the tips.  Worse when I was outdriving them.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:24 PM

View Poststage1350, on 26 October 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

I think I tightened a few sphinchters yesterday with I teed up with a persimmon driver from the tips.

Tightened a few sphincters? I don't want to ask what you planned on doing with that wood.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:59 PM

View Postap1_alan, on 26 October 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

View Poststage1350, on 26 October 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

I think I tightened a few sphinchters yesterday with I teed up with a persimmon driver from the tips.

Tightened a few sphincters? I don't want to ask what you planned on doing with that wood.

HAHA^ Too funny! Clubs and bags don't scare me for whatever reason, but I can tell if someone is a player by the way they carry themselves on the golf course.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:57 PM

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hungover, a disheveled and glazed look
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:29 PM

View PostCARDY, on 26 October 2012 - 02:57 PM, said:

leathery skin skip the range no glove no idea what model of irons they have faded bag with mismatched head covers untied shoes hungover, a disheveled and glazed look

Same here.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 06:21 PM

Any bag with clubs in it because I suck!!!


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:25 PM

Old worn out Ping carry bag with some worn out blades.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:42 PM

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That spot is a groove low no matter whose club it is. Hit a ball there and you get that solid but click feeling. Hit it 1 groove higher and get that sensational feeling that cannot be described. Then again, Mo Norman (worlds best ball striker) said you should hit it it a groove low for some reason. I disagree. On the other hand... I have different fingers

It may or may not be low depending where the center of gravity on on that head is.  I know in the past it was very common for touring pros to have the club weighted so the sweet spot was moved lower on the irons since most touring pros miss on the thin side.  I'm not sure if this is still practice or not but given the look of that I would say it is, off the shelf that might be thin but a custom set built for Tiger I'd bet that is the sweet spot.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 10:57 PM

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:02 PM

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:11 PM

I get the shivers when I can't tell what type of irons a guy is playing because they are so smeared with lead tape.


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