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#1 hummel

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:57 PM

Anyone else using a sand wedge with lower bounce?

I struggle with higher bounce from the fairway on full shots and just picked up a 58-8 Cleveland wedge.  I played one round an it worked pretty well, the sand was pretty firm though.

Does anyone else use a sand wedge with around 8 degrees of bounce?  How does it work out?


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 01:21 PM

Wouldn't a 58/8 be more of a lob wedge? I play 50/54/58 and have a low bounce 54/6 wedge and love it from the FW but not so much from the sand depending on how tightly packed it is.

I do usually play a 54/12 and use a choked down GW that's 50/6 for fairway shots around 100yds. Gives more flexibility due to sand shots where the bounce helps.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:20 PM

Yeah, I play 52 - 58 - 64 so the 58 is my primary sand club, I was playing 12 degrees of bounce but just switched to 8.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:48 PM

56/11 with trailing bounce ground. Sand wedge is anything you  normally hit out of the sand to me. Could be 52-64 degrees. I dont use the PW GW SW LW labels. Means nothing to me.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:52 PM

It depends on the sand you have.  Fluffy, powdered sugar sand needs that bounce.

If you are playing out of clay or hard, concrete bunkers, then less bounce will help.

Consider grinding the high bounce wedge to do what you need based on your local playing conditions.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 02:38 PM

Me....588/57/10 is my most used SW given the coarce sand here....though I do have a couple of wedges with less loft/more bounce for softer beaches...
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 02:59 PM

I played a nike SV tour 56/10 most of the year, and it was awesome as a sand wedge. It had plenty of bounce out of the sand, and the leading edge was low enough that i could use it for flops and touch shots around the greens. VERY good wedge.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 01:32 PM

I play a vokey 56.08.  I play on firm fairways, and this is my most lofted club, so I need to be able to open the face a bit for higher lofted shots.  
I tried a 56.11, but it was too much bounce for me.  I don't end up in bunkers all that often..., I'd say I hit my "sandwedge" from the grass probably 95% of the time, and only 5% from the sand.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 06:46 AM

I have a Nike VR Forged 58 that has either 6 or 8 degrees of bounce, and I use it for sand shots. It works great, I am never worried when I step into a bunker. I also use it for full shots as well, although I don't chip great with it.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 07:19 AM

View Posthummel, on 13 October 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

Anyone else using a sand wedge with lower bounce?

I struggle with higher bounce from the fairway on full shots and just picked up a 58-8 Cleveland wedge.  I played one round an it worked pretty well, the sand was pretty firm though.

Does anyone else use a sand wedge with around 8 degrees of bounce?  How does it work out?

My current wedge is the Mizuno MP R-12 which is 10* with trailing edge relief, so it plays like it has even less bounce.

Works out very well for me.  I have a very shallow AOA; like to play a lot of open-faced wedge shots, and play on courses that tend to have very firmly packed sand at the bottom of the bunkers.   So I really need wedges that are very low bounce.   Too much bounce and I start having turf interation problems on fairway shots, and risk skulling shots in bunkers.

You need to find the wedge that suits your swing and the conditions you tend to play in.  Higher bounce angles tend to work best for people who have steeper swings (take deep divots) and/or play from soft turf and bunker conditions.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 09:40 AM

According to another thread, you're suppose to go buy short game lessons instead of finding a club to fit your playing conditions and swing type.  With that out of the way.

Less bounce can help if you're a sweeper on hard ground conditions.  Trailing edge grinds will have a similar affect by lowering the total height under the blade of the club.  I.e. the bottom of the club will hit the ground later/lower on the swing arc.  The bounce will help once you either enter the ground or the sand, from catching and digging straight down into the sand.  If you aren't taking a divot (i.e. picking it clean) then bounce won't help you do anything (there's no turf interaction for it to affect).

If you do play courses with soft sand or soft ground then I would move towards a club with bounce + trailing grind.  If you only ever play hard packed courses then you might as well go with a low bounce option.   You'll probably have better luck finding a lob wedge with lower bounce than a sand wedge (sand wedges are suppose to have lots of bounce).  58 is still in the lob wedge category for a lot of makers, if you want a 56, just buy a 58 and have it bent.

But again, like I said before, I'm sure someone will come in here and tell you how your wrong for buying a club that's made for your swing and conditions you play.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 09:46 AM

I go with low bounce 51 and 58.  New gorge wedge coming it at 58.06.  I am steep thru the ball but actually chip better with less bounce (reverse from theory I know but we get a lot of tight lies at my course)

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 09:51 AM

View Posthummel, on 13 October 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

Anyone else using a sand wedge with lower bounce?

I struggle with higher bounce from the fairway on full shots and just picked up a 58-8 Cleveland wedge.  I played one round an it worked pretty well, the sand was pretty firm though.

Does anyone else use a sand wedge with around 8 degrees of bounce?  How does it work out?

Been using low bounce for years; I especially like low bounce on my mid-long irons.  My LW has 2* near heal and 5* of bounce in the middle, with a straight leading edge and minimal camber, no trailing or toe relief, but has heal relief.  When more bounce is needed, I open the face up flat.  Low bounce, IMO, has far more advantages, but requires practice and a deft touch to insure not sticking it, and is the right choice for tight and or firm conditions.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 10:31 AM

View PostCARDY, on 17 October 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

I go with low bounce 51 and 58.  New gorge wedge coming it at 58.06.  I am steep thru the ball but actually chip better with less bounce (reverse from theory I know but we get a lot of tight lies at my course)

Bag is going almost all PING (except for my driver) next year and I may revert my 64* vokey (sand club almost exclusively) to the eye 2 XG LW I have in the basement

I am the same way, I have a 52, with the tour grind giving it 3* of bounce and my 58 had the ts grind (recommended from ping) to 6* of bounce.  i didnt get the TS wedge so it does still have somewhat of a wide sole (which is great out of the bunker) but the grind gives me the ability to hit the shots around the green.  Same as the guy above a have a digger type swing and have had no problems with the wedges and their bounce set ups.....




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