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driver length, choking down vs cutting


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#1 pingman1

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 06:58 AM

Probably a dumb question, but here goes:

Does choking down on the driver have the same effect on swingweight as cutting the shaft?  I choke down approx 1"  and hit my driver much better.  If it does have the same effect, why do you need to add weight to the head if you cut it down?

Edited by pingman1, 10 October 2012 - 06:58 AM.


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Posted 10 October 2012 - 07:18 AM

When you trim you are removing weight from the club. Where as choking down you are not.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 07:38 AM

Really it's not that much different but there are still differences. If you choke down 1" then the effective MOI  drops (it will still measure the same on a SW balance but you moved your pivot point nearer the head) as a result it does feel lighter in the hand. In fact it will feel slightly lighter in the hand than cutting it 1" because the extra inch of shaft and grip above your hands is going to have a small counterweighting effect. By the same token the cut down driver is slightly lighter overall but it's not a lot of difference and you might end up adding back the same amount of weight to the head to balance the SW back to what it was.

The real thing is though is what you feel, I personally don't much like choking down on a driver, it makes the grip feel a bit thin (because of the taper in the grip) and I don't much like the butt of the shaft protruding from my grip much.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 07:38 AM

 Kadin 25, on 10 October 2012 - 07:18 AM, said:

When you trim you are removing weight from the club. Where as choking down you are not.

True but due to the extremely small wall thickness, the weight of even an inch from the butt end of most driver/fw shafts is negligible.  It might be different for steel shafts but I doubt it.

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If it does have the same effect, why do you need to add weight to the head if you cut it down?

You don't need to add weight if you cut it down and you can still add weight if you choke-up w/o cutting it.   If you like it the way it is, that's fine but if you will be consistently choking down on the club you may find you might want to increase the SW a bit even without cutting down the shaft.  I think most people cut down the shaft instead of just choking down because it results in a better 'fit' of the hand on the grip.  It also prevents the temptation to let it rip at full length for those who know accuracy will suffer if they try :-)

Cutting it down might reduce the swing weight but the static weight (both of the head and the total static weight) doesn't change noticeably.   Some people are sensitive to total weight, some more so to swing weight.  Only some trial-and-error testing will determine what's best for you.

Edited by Stuart G., 10 October 2012 - 07:41 AM.


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Posted 10 October 2012 - 07:48 AM

Main effects that most people will notice when choking down 1" on a driver:

1) The balance or "head feel" aka swingweight will feel lighter
2) You will have a smaller diameter portion of the grip under your hands
3) You will have more control over the club because you're manipulating a shorter total length, this is especially noticeable on drivers because they're so long

Of these, items 1 and 3 will be pretty much the same when choking down 1" as if you cut 1" off the butt and regripped. But item 2 is specific to the choked-down experience. If you cut and regrip then your hands will be back on the normal part of the grip.

The gram or two difference in static weight depending on whether you cut that inch of graphite shaft off the butt is teeny tiny. Very few people are even capable of feeling the difference in a 314g total weight and a 316g total weight on a 45" long club.





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