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Forward ball position on drives don't cause slices/pulls?


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#1 dshi123

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 12:34 PM

Maybe this is a noob question but after another crappy day at the tee box it really got me wondering.  I was always taught to position the ball at your left armpit or just inside your left heel to promote a sweeping action on your drives as the club hits the ball on the upswing,....

but if you imagined the arc drawn out by the clubhead as it travels across the hitting area it would make sense that it the clubhead would be square at your body's midline, then as it travels to your armpit to hit the ball the club face would be pointing left with possibly almost an out to in path across the ball, hence a ball that may start left then slice right - aka my classic pattern off the teebox.

Thoughts?

Here's a pic I made in paint with a bird's eye view from above showing outline of the driver path and the ball with the horizontal line being your midline.Attached File  golfpic.jpg   5.94K   0 downloads


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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:17 PM

You swing out & down the target line. There's no one cookie cutter path.

#3 BigOgolfer

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:27 PM

the bottom of your swing isn't determined by where you are at setup, it's where you are at the bottom of your swing, when you're going to be much more forward. you only hit it slightly past the bottom, not a foot.  so you're right, but not as much as you're making out.   This is why they say the trackman proved the need for two swings:  slightly outside in to hit irons straight and slightly inside out to hit drives straight

#4 AlexCzervic

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:30 PM

View Postdshi123, on 17 August 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

Maybe this is a noob question but after another crappy day at the tee box it really got me wondering.  I was always taught to position the ball at your left armpit or just inside your left heel to promote a sweeping action on your drives as the club hits the ball on the upswing,....

but if you imagined the arc drawn out by the clubhead as it travels across the hitting area it would make sense that it the clubhead would be square at your body's midline, then as it travels to your armpit to hit the ball the club face would be pointing left with possibly almost an out to in path across the ball, hence a ball that may start left then slice right - aka my classic pattern off the teebox.

Thoughts?

Here's a pic I made in paint with a bird's eye view from above showing outline of the driver path and the ball with the horizontal line being your midline.Attachment golfpic.jpg

Makes some sense with zero spine tilt.

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Edited by AlexCzervic, 17 August 2012 - 01:31 PM.


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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:31 PM

Yes, if you tee the ball forward of the low point, then the club will be moving back to the inside (left, for a right hander) when it makes contact with the ball. Fortunately -- because the average vertical swing plane with the driver is very close to 45% -- there's a very simple rule of thumb. For every degree you are hitting up on the ball, you need to orient the base of your plane (your swing direction) one degree further right.

In practical terms the actual numbers aren't that important. Just remember that the more you move the ball forward, the more you need to aim right to produce a straight ball flight.

Edited by Stretch, 17 August 2012 - 01:33 PM.

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#6 AlexCzervic

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:51 PM

The OP appears to be a novice.  I 100% recommend that a novice not tee the BALL forward of the bottom of your air divot(low point).  Learn centerface impact, then top 3rd until your bulletproof.  You want to learn to bomb it later fine, if done correctly you'll want a different driver.

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