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[tbowles411]

I still find it hard to believe the H4's are larger tjan the Pro's.

[longbal30]

Man, believe it, they are seriously in the sgi category. The long and mid irons are the same size or even bigger than the burner 2.0 irons. The long irons are absolutely huge with some seriously thick (sgi thick) top lines and soles. I was looking forward to the h4's also, but when I saw them I person, thy are not on the list anymore.

[longbal30]

Check out the pics in the other thread "in hand pics" look how big the topline is in the 4 iron. Look at the cutaway pic, the topline is hollow, that would have to be huge to pull that off.

[tbowles411]

Hmmm...maybe the H4's will be good 3 and 4 iron replacements.

[BenHoganFan]

longbal30........looking at some of the pictures of the 825 pros it appears that they carried over the "triple sole grind" that was used on the 800 pros. Can you verify that they indeed still have this sole grind? Did you happen to notice?

Edited by BenHoganFan, 08 August 2012 - 09:28 PM.

[longbal30]

Yep, still have the grind.

[Neverfaze]

I saw the whole lineup yesterday as well with my Mizzy rep, it really does look great even the woods. Longbal is right though, the H4's are wayyy bigger in person and the Adams V3 is also the first thing I thought of when i saw them. The 825 and 825 pro's are both really great looking clubs, I also didn't like the 800's from last year, but after getting to hold the 825 pro's and see them up close I think those will be going in the bag next year. The 64's i wasn't super impressed with, I understand why they got rid of the 53/63's but i prefer the look of those a bit more than the new 64's. Another cool feature with the T4 wedges is custom stamping at NO upcharge, I believe you have 12 colors to choose from but you can't choose where the stampings go.

The woods are seriously nice looking this year, nice stealthy black look to them and they seem to setup pretty square from my eye. Only thing I think is going to hurt them is not having a good stock shaft in there, the Orochi isn't terrible, but with the competition all putting in nice shafts into their drivers, I think Mizuno needed to follow suit to boost this market for themselves.

Overall, the new lineup should be a hit for them.

[freddyottawa]

Thanks for the reviews longbal, much appreicated. I'm looking forward to hitting the new Mizuno gear. I'm going to be looking at new irons and a driver (ok, fwy woods and wedges as well). I was thinking that the 64's were going to be my irons of choice but I may have to give the 825 pro's a go too.

[golferduck]

It really does seem to me like the last few years in particular Mizuno is attempting to have enough options for the "make your own" combo set - even in their product catalog they list a sample set made up of 3 or 4 different lines - Fli Hi, 800, 53, 63 for instance in the book from a couple of years ago. I think maybe the H4 is there to offer those higher gi/sgi clubs in your set while still being 'MP' line.

[tbowles411]

golferduck, on 09 August 2012 - 07:49 AM, said:

I think maybe the H4 is there to offer those higher gi/sgi clubs in your set while still being 'MP' line.

I was thinking this too a few weeks ago.  It's almost like they are trying to introduce more people into the MP line.  Actually I really am shining to having the long irons in the H4 and the shorter irons in the 825 Pros.

[Konklifer]

What does the crown look like on the woods?

[longbal30]

Crown was nice, if memory serves correctly, they were just solid black with a alignment aid. I was so into the irons, I only hit the driver a handful of times. Especially since the specs didn't fit me. Overall I do remember them to be very superfast tp like and very light.

[CAJ4AU]

longbal30, on 08 August 2012 - 03:56 PM, said:

caller, on 08 August 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:

Did you get to hit new wedges?

Yes, the wedges are fantastic. Very classic looking, huge step forward from previous models. Felt great, like classic mizuno forgings. They still have that rounded toe, but not as much as last years model.

Any idea when said wedges are to be released?  I saw the pics in CH3 bag and they look really great.  I am in the market for some new wedges and was just wondering how long I'd have to hold off before they're released.

[longbal30]

September 10th, so not too long of a wait.

Edited by longbal30, 09 August 2012 - 10:13 AM.

[CAJ4AU]

longbal30, on 09 August 2012 - 10:12 AM, said:

September 10th, so not too long of a wait.

Thanks, I think I can hold off for that long!   As they say... You da man!

[ron lefthanded holmes]

thanks for the review is there any news on which will be lefthanded in them then

[hokieputter]

for those that spoke with a Mizuno rep, did they mention anything about new stand bags coming out in September?

[packman80]

Any idea of the specs, primarily the lofts of the 825 pros?

[reg1900]

golferduck, on 09 August 2012 - 07:49 AM, said:

It really does seem to me like the last few years in particular Mizuno is attempting to have enough options for the "make your own" combo set - even in their product catalog they list a sample set made up of 3 or 4 different lines - Fli Hi, 800, 53, 63 for instance in the book from a couple of years ago. I think maybe the H4 is there to offer those higher gi/sgi clubs in your set while still being 'MP' line.o

Making the H4's huge goes against what the MP line is, MP is meant to be low handicap, JPX high handicap.

I can understand why they have made the 825 Pro compact and not as GI looking, with the 53 gone there is a gap in the range, so it appears they made the 64 bigger and 825 pro smaller to close the gap where the 53 was.

[reg1900]

Anyone got confirmation on which of the 825's will be in lefty?

[ron lefthanded holmes]

reg1900, on 13 August 2012 - 04:18 AM, said:

Anyone got confirmation on which of the 825's will be in lefty?

its been said only the standard 825s will be lefthanded

[ceasterb]

I hope they make a lefty version of these. . .  It was a big disappointment that they did not in the 800 Pros.  I  am loving my MP59s though. They look amazing and I am finding them fairly forgiving as well.

[Jamboy72]

Sounds like the 825s might be the AP2 killer!

[bev]

thanks longbal30 for your time and info very helpful..

[Golf_Boom]

Yeah, thanks for the mini review. I wish someone had a side by side pic of the 800 Pro and 825 Pro at address. Really want to see just how much they thinned it out.

[longbal30]

Hopefully, soon I will be doing a full blown review. Comparison pics will be included.

[esketores]

Boo to Mizuno if the 825 Pro's are only available in right handed version.

[NoahA]

I'd imagine the H4's are targeted at the "tweener" market that is currently being serviced by the likes of VR-S Forged (which I'm gaming with decent results despite an inconsistent swing).  What appealed to me was a forged feel with more forgiveness and clubhead size.  I suppose Mizuno started this category with forged MX line.

Considering their MSRP (>$1000), they seem to also fit into this new world of very expensive and "exotic" SGI clubs (RAZR XF, K15, RocketBallz Max).

Edited by NoahA, 14 August 2012 - 06:31 PM.

[Tiemco]

longbal30, on 08 August 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

Oh, one thing to add, the rep said that world number 1 Luke Donald was to be switching to the mp64's. Makes sense to me, they are kinda mp62 like. If that's the case, that would be 2 of their top pros switching from the mp59's. The other being ch3

Interesting.  I was very surprised he switched when he did (PGA and European money leader), especially when his iron/short game is his bread and butter.  Johnny Miller tells a story where he switched from an old set of irons he loved to a new model that his sponsers pushed on him, and he could never get used to them.  One wonders if he really liked the 59's or was getting a lot of pressure from Mizuno.  I guess the question now is, does he like the 64's better, or does Mizuno want him to use them?

[jrshelby]

esketores, on 14 August 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

Boo to Mizuno if the 825 Pro's are only available in right handed version.

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