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[vokeyloyalist]

Hi, im going to be in the juvenile boys division next year. I have qualified for the Optimist International Championships through district qualifiers... I live in Canada so I realize it's more difficult and recently competed in the GAO Bantam Championship which is the top championship in all of Ontario.

Thanks, Connor

[vokeyloyalist]

And College golf is where I want to play too

[italianstallion]

Well if you want to go pro, you definitely need to play well as a junior, get into a good college, and then have access to the best coaches and best competition around. Its a lofty goal, but there are people out there who end up playing on tour.

[lilmike24]

you dont have to be Tiger woods to go pro. As a matter of a fact, there are plenty of teaching pro's who actually may be better than some people on tour. You obviously have great game to have those accomplishments but just focus on getting into the best college you can. Let the professional game come to you. Because i believe it will. Hopefully, i'll be playing against you out there one day.

[OptionlessM]

what is your question connor?

[peterpro130]

 lilmike24, on 03 August 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

you dont have to be Tiger woods to go pro. As a matter of a fact, there are plenty of teaching pro's who actually may be better than some people on tour. You obviously have great game to have those accomplishments but just focus on getting into the best college you can. Let the professional game come to you. Because i believe it will. Hopefully, i'll be playing against you out there one day.

lol...u obviously have no idea what you are talking about!!!

[lilmike24]

 peterpro130, on 09 August 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

 lilmike24, on 03 August 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

you dont have to be Tiger woods to go pro. As a matter of a fact, there are plenty of teaching pro's who actually may be better than some people on tour. You obviously have great game to have those accomplishments but just focus on getting into the best college you can. Let the professional game come to you. Because i believe it will. Hopefully, i'll be playing against you out there one day.

lol...u obviously have no idea what you are talking about!!!

Thanks for your opinion ....

[italianstallion]

 peterpro130, on 09 August 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

 lilmike24, on 03 August 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

you dont have to be Tiger woods to go pro. As a matter of a fact, there are plenty of teaching pro's who actually may be better than some people on tour. You obviously have great game to have those accomplishments but just focus on getting into the best college you can. Let the professional game come to you. Because i believe it will. Hopefully, i'll be playing against you out there one day.

lol...u obviously have no idea what you are talking about!!!

I would actually agree with lilmike, there are plenty of great teaching pros out there that I would put my money on over some of the 'weaker' everyday pros on tour. Take a look at the scores some of the guys put up in past PGA National Championships (the teaching pro's championship) and you'll realize how much game some teaching pros have.

Oh yeah, and many of them don't play everday...or every week.

Edited by italianstallion, 11 August 2012 - 02:52 AM.

[peterpro130]

Guys, tour players are way better than club pro's. Anyont that has had a PGA tour card at somepoint is going to be way better than a teaching pro?

[lilmike24]

 peterpro130, on 12 August 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

Guys, tour players are way better than club pro's. Anyont that has had a PGA tour card at somepoint is going to be way better than a teaching pro?

Imagine how many teaching pros that have the talent to be on tour, but they dont have the money.
What about those tour pros that have one good week and lock down a tour card for three years ?

William McGirt come to my club about once or twice a year. And he has yet to beat our teaching pro. Who doesnt have the money to be on tour. But definitely has the talent.

[BrianL99]

 italianstallion, on 11 August 2012 - 02:51 AM, said:

 peterpro130, on 09 August 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

 lilmike24, on 03 August 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

you dont have to be Tiger woods to go pro. As a matter of a fact, there are plenty of teaching pro's who actually may be better than some people on tour. You obviously have great game to have those accomplishments but just focus on getting into the best college you can. Let the professional game come to you. Because i believe it will. Hopefully, i'll be playing against you out there one day.

lol...u obviously have no idea what you are talking about!!!

I would actually agree with lilmike, there are plenty of great teaching pros out there that I would put my money on over some of the 'weaker' everyday pros on tour. Take a look at the scores some of the guys put up in past PGA National Championships (the teaching pro's championship) and you'll realize how much game some teaching pros have.

Oh yeah, and many of them don't play everday...or every week.

& how many of those 20 PGA Professionals who get exemptions into the PGA Championship, even make the cut?

http://www.greenfiel...a/GLF--PGA-Wade

[lilmike24]

They aren't used to the pressure of playing out there . Doesnt mean they dont have the ability .

[vokeyloyalist]

you havent answered my question. whatever

[dplevin]

 vokeyloyalist, on 13 August 2012 - 07:24 PM, said:

you havent answered my question. whatever

what is your question?

[dplevin]

BTW, I know a number of club pros that could be pretty decent on tour, but they don't want to live that lifestyle.  Not all clubs pros are that good, but there are certainly some.

[peterpro130]

 lilmike24, on 13 August 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

They aren't used to the pressure of playing out there . Doesnt mean they dont have the ability .

 lilmike24, on 13 August 2012 - 06:24 AM, said:

 peterpro130, on 12 August 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

Guys, tour players are way better than club pro's. Anyont that has had a PGA tour card at somepoint is going to be way better than a teaching pro?

Imagine how many teaching pros that have the talent to be on tour, but they dont have the money.
What about those tour pros that have one good week and lock down a tour card for three years ?

William McGirt come to my club about once or twice a year. And he has yet to beat our teaching pro. Who doesnt have the money to be on tour. But definitely has the talent.

The "teaching pro's" playing in the CPC are playing almost every day... a lot are guys that could not quite make it on tour but choose to be club pros because they can play section events.... to think that there are teaching pro's that could make millions on tour and are teaching for $80 an hour is ...well... wrong... and who is William McGirt??

[Guia]

The PGA held their championship here a few years ago and I was a marshal at the event.  There were several club pro's playing that had been on the tour.  Some did not keep their card because they didn't want the life style and wanted family more, some just didn't have the game to stay.  

There are a number of people that have the game but can't take the travel, different courses, being away from family, etc.  

If you are interested in becoming a pro, you need competition, money to compete, a good coach, desire to improve, practice, and most get there through a good class 1 college program.  Of course there are those who dug it out of the dirt:  Hogan, Snead, Nelson, Trevino, Seve, and many others.

Your off to a good start.

[OptionlessM]

Teaching pros better than PGA tour players?  that is hilarious.

Shooting 68 at the course you work at every day giving lessons to 60 year olds does not mean anything.

[peterpro130]

 OptionlessM, on 14 August 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

Teaching pros better than PGA tour players?  that is hilarious.

Shooting 68 at the course you work at every day giving lessons to 60 year olds does not mean anything.

Thank you....someone with common sense....rare now a days.....

[vinny809]

First of all the US Open proves guys that are not on tour can play hang and  maybe beat the big boys once in a while.

Second of all, not everyone on the PGA Tour makes millions like some guys here think.

Third playing on Tour isn't as glamorous as some of you think.  Many tour players end up traveling weeks at a tie, not making as many cuts as they were expected and are horrible husbands/fathers.  Many guys have don't have relationships with their kids and end up being divorced because they dedicated their life to golf.

Forth, some people do not want that kind of life.  Its not for everyone.  They don't want to be that guy who misses cuts and/or has no family.  So they decide to teach instead.  But that doesn't mean they don't have the talent.

Some guys here are mixing up the Rorys and Tigers to the 100 no names on tour who was tied barely missed the cut or missed the cut.

Edited by vinny809, 14 August 2012 - 01:12 AM.

[BrianL99]

 vinny809, on 14 August 2012 - 01:03 AM, said:

First of all the US Open proves guys that are not on tour can play hang and  maybe beat the big boys once in a while.

Second of all, not everyone on the PGA Tour makes millions like some guys here think.

Third playing on Tour isn't as glamorous as some of you think.  Many tour players end up traveling weeks at a tie, not making as many cuts as they were expected and are horrible husbands/fathers.  Many guys have don't have relationships with their kids and end up being divorced because they dedicated their life to golf.

Forth, some people do not want that kind of life.  Its not for everyone.  They don't want to be that guy who misses cuts and/or has no family.  So they decide to teach instead.  But that doesn't mean they don't have the talent.

Some guys here are mixing up the Rorys and Tigers to the 100 no names on tour who was tied barely missed the cut or missed the cut.

& a lot of guys could be playing for the Boston Red Sox, but they just don't want to hounded by the groupies.

[lilmike24]

 OptionlessM, on 14 August 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

Teaching pros better than PGA tour players?  that is hilarious.

Shooting 68 at the course you work at every day giving lessons to 60 year olds does not mean anything.

What if i told you mine shot 57 ...

[BrianL99]

 lilmike24, on 14 August 2012 - 05:46 AM, said:

 OptionlessM, on 14 August 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

Teaching pros better than PGA tour players?  that is hilarious.

Shooting 68 at the course you work at every day giving lessons to 60 year olds does not mean anything.

What if i told you mine shot 57 ...

Rhein Gibson shot a 55 a couple of months ago ... he's ranked 1444th in the world.

The Pro at my local Muni shot 61 last month ... he's never shot Par or better 3 times in a row and has never shot below Par in competition.

It's a different world.

[lilmike24]

 BrianL99, on 14 August 2012 - 07:00 AM, said:

 lilmike24, on 14 August 2012 - 05:46 AM, said:

 OptionlessM, on 14 August 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

Teaching pros better than PGA tour players?  that is hilarious.

Shooting 68 at the course you work at every day giving lessons to 60 year olds does not mean anything.

What if i told you mine shot 57 ...

Rhein Gibson shot a 55 a couple of months ago ... he's ranked 1444th in the world.

The Pro at my local Muni shot 61 last month ... he's never shot Par or better 3 times in a row and has never shot below Par in competition.

It's a different world.

number one seed for his d2 golf team which was top top 5 in the nation his senior year. And yes, they would be able to compete with some of the top d1 schools.

[BrianL99]

 lilmike24, on 14 August 2012 - 07:31 AM, said:

number one seed for his d2 golf team which was top top 5 in the nation his senior year. And yes, they would be able to compete with some of the top d1 schools.

That and a $1.89 will get him a cup of coffee, in most every major city in America.

[oneunderbogey]

There are very very good club pros out there, but they aren't better then pga tour pros.  To keep your card last year by the money list you had to make almost $800,000 any club pro who says they just didnt want that lifestlyle is lying to you they just couldnt make it out there.  Do I believe there are club pros better then some players just barely hanging around on the nationwide tour?  Maybe, but maybe 3 or 4 all over the country are these are the club pros who used to be tour pros.

http://www.pga.com/n...more-money-ever

[peterpro130]

Thanks for the support guys...it is great that lilmike loves his club pro's game...hopefully he is starting to realize that if he could play on tour he would

[kitsoasis]

 lilmike24, on 13 August 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

They aren't used to the pressure of playing out there . Doesnt mean they dont have the ability .

That's the whole point.

Tour pros are that good because they can play to their ability under pressure, there's a mind blowing number of professionals (from club to tour) with similar talents in playing golf. What separates Rory from a Nationwide journeyman is more in the head than in ability.

[lilmike24]

 peterpro130, on 14 August 2012 - 10:36 PM, said:

Thanks for the support guys...it is great that lilmike loves his club pro's game...hopefully he is starting to realize that if he could play on tour he would

I dont care what you say, they are teaching pros out there that have the ability to play, and just dont have the money..

[oneunderbogey]

 lilmike24, on 15 August 2012 - 07:11 AM, said:

 peterpro130, on 14 August 2012 - 10:36 PM, said:

Thanks for the support guys...it is great that lilmike loves his club pro's game...hopefully he is starting to realize that if he could play on tour he would

I dont care what you say, they are teaching pros out there that have the ability to play, and just dont have the money..

If they had the ability, theyd make the money...