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[Sean2]

It's hard to feel sorry for a guy who is wealthy, young, healthy, and plays professional golf. That said, and as others pointed out, he needs to get out of his own way, i.e., mentally.

Edited by Sean2, 28 July 2012 - 05:56 PM.

[bobsuruncle]

you can't win if you can't putt ... no matter how good a ball striker he is, putts make up nearly 50% of your total strokes (assuming you play regulation golf and score par) in a round.  This means that Sergio is only "half" as good a player as you would believe he is.  And 50% just ain't good enough, especially for the majors.

[PGArox]

Lamo70, on 27 July 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:

His game is not suited to North American courses.

I couldn't begin to imagine what this means.

[cough93]

He really does complain A LOT! Not saying that I don't complain on the golf course every once in a while of course, but he is a professional and should learn to contain his emotions a little better. I believe that he recently said that he believed that he was no longer good enough to win a major championship. I'm not sure why he would say that, really haha. Also, he had his little escapade after The Open at Carnoustie when he said his ball ricocheted off of the flagstick when others would have gone in...Again, I'm not sure why he does it but it's annoying after a while.

[CelticFan3]

I'm a big fan of Sergio's, but the constant complaining has gotten old. He's rich,  popular,  and plays golf for a living. What is there to be sad about? Get a new instructor, short game coach,  mental coach, and sign with a new equipment company that doesn't make you change clubs every 6 weeks.

[schmatt]

bobsuruncle, on 29 July 2012 - 01:09 AM, said:

you can't win if you can't putt ... no matter how good a ball striker he is, putts make up nearly 50% of your total strokes (assuming you play regulation golf and score par) in a round.  This means that Sergio is only "half" as good a player as you would believe he is.  And 50% just ain't good enough, especially for the majors.

I don't think he's that bad of a putter.  He makes an awful lot of putts.  After all, he's only ranked 16th on Tour in strokes gained.  How is that being a bad putter?  Again, I think the reason he keeps going to different putters/grips is again mental.  He thinks he's not as good of a putter as he actually is.

[Britboy]

OdessaGolfer, on 29 July 2012 - 10:33 AM, said:

I'm a big fan of Sergio's, but the constant complaining has gotten old. He's rich,  popular,  and plays golf for a living. What is there to be sad about? Get a new instructor, short game coach,  mental coach, and sign with a new equipment company that doesn't make you change clubs every 6 weeks.

Bang on !

[fordy11]

Britboy, on 30 July 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

OdessaGolfer, on 29 July 2012 - 10:33 AM, said:

I'm a big fan of Sergio's, but the constant complaining has gotten old. He's rich,  popular,  and plays golf for a living. What is there to be sad about? Get a new instructor, short game coach,  mental coach, and sign with a new equipment company that doesn't make you change clubs every 6 weeks.

Bang on !

He's not constantly complaining though is he? He's just brutally honest whenever he's asked a question - and unfortunately for him most of the questions these days are after he's performed poorly!

I'd much rather he be like he is than come out wth something scripted by a PR machine containing the word 'process'!! How many golfers talk b*llshit these days, much more refreshing to have Sergio say he doesn't think he's good enough!

I think the main thing we all feel about Sergio is the difference between the old Sergio (19!!) and the current one. Would love to see him get that smile back.

[schmatt]

fordy11, on 31 July 2012 - 07:22 AM, said:

He's not constantly complaining though is he? He's just brutally honest whenever he's asked a question - and unfortunately for him most of the questions these days are after he's performed poorly!

I'd much rather he be like he is than come out wth something scripted by a PR machine containing the word 'process'!! How many golfers talk b*llshit these days, much more refreshing to have Sergio say he doesn't think he's good enough!

I think the main thing we all feel about Sergio is the difference between the old Sergio (19!!) and the current one. Would love to see him get that smile back.

Yes he does talk the truth. However, part of performing well requires you believe in yourself. Sometimes you have to lie to yourself to get rid of the doubt. If you let the doubt enter your mind, it can really hinder your play. I think this is more why the pros answer the questions with canned positive answers about their game. If you are constantly telling yourself how poor of a player you are, it will become a self fulfilling prophecy.

[jkumpire]

i honestly believe what he needs is a wife and family. As I understand it, he's still single, and probably sees lots of significant others as he goes along. But IMO a spouse and children would do a lot to help him with the mental side of the game. When someone commits to you forever, and you have children with them it helps to ground you and keep your priorities in order.  It would be really hard to left your temper go knowing you have kids at home looking up to him as a dad and a man. There are other pros who have found out the hard way about that.

If he is married, I withdraw the comment, since I really don't look into the private lives of pro athletes. But that's my impression.

[imakaveli]

jkumpire, on 31 July 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

i honestly believe what he needs is a wife and family. As I understand it, he's still single, and probably sees lots of significant others as he goes along. But IMO a spouse and children would do a lot to help him with the mental side of the game. When someone commits to you forever, and you have children with them it helps to ground you and keep your priorities in order.  It would be really hard to left your temper go knowing you have kids at home looking up to him as a dad and a man. There are other pros who have found out the hard way about that.

If he is married, I withdraw the comment, since I really don't look into the private lives of pro athletes. But that's my impression.

Yes, being committed forever helped Tiger a lot with his mental side and his priorities

I am pretty sure Sergio still got Nicole Horrex as a girlfriend (luck him btw!!)

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[fordy11]

jkumpire, on 31 July 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

i honestly believe what he needs is a wife and family. As I understand it, he's still single, and probably sees lots of significant others as he goes along. But IMO a spouse and children would do a lot to help him with the mental side of the game. When someone commits to you forever, and you have children with them it helps to ground you and keep your priorities in order.  It would be really hard to left your temper go knowing you have kids at home looking up to him as a dad and a man. There are other pros who have found out the hard way about that.

If he is married, I withdraw the comment, since I really don't look into the private lives of pro athletes. But that's my impression.

I agree with you, and I'm sure all golfers would too, with regards to the best mental approach.

However as a fan I find it much more interesting and refreshing to hear some honesty. Also much of his comments come post round, and really some players are fooling no-one with some of their post round analysis. Much better just to say they stank the place out than turn politician on us.

[mwkbmw]

imakaveli, on 01 August 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:

jkumpire, on 31 July 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

i honestly believe what he needs is a wife and family. As I understand it, he's still single, and probably sees lots of significant others as he goes along. But IMO a spouse and children would do a lot to help him with the mental side of the game. When someone commits to you forever, and you have children with them it helps to ground you and keep your priorities in order.  It would be really hard to left your temper go knowing you have kids at home looking up to him as a dad and a man. There are other pros who have found out the hard way about that.

If he is married, I withdraw the comment, since I really don't look into the private lives of pro athletes. But that's my impression.

Yes, being committed forever helped Tiger a lot with his mental side and his priorities

I am pretty sure Sergio still got Nicole Horrex as a girlfriend (luck him btw!!)

The only thing Tiger has ever been committed to is himself.

[Lionstar]

MtlJeff, on 28 July 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

Sergio probably isn't the most confident golfer in the world, but his woe-is-me attitude gets exaggerated too because he's brutally honest. You go inside for a beer after a tournament or qualifier at any club anywhere and there's 10 guys talking about the horrible break they got on hole 12, or the time they ended up in a divot etc...

Not everyone is like this. Some guys never complain. But Sergio reminds me of a lot of guys i've met who weren't bad guys. He doesn't seem happy at all sometimes, but he's a pretty emotional person obviously.

If Ernie can win a major in 2012 and Darren Clarke can win a major. Sergio can. Both of the former were written off by countless people

I agree. I really believe he will [sooner or later ] get "hot", or in the zone or whatever you wish to call it and then a lot of people will see a different Sergio,,which may be the "real" sergio inside.

[mickeyward]

I personally cant stand to watch him play, similiar to tiger with all the grimaces, tantrums, etc... just totally disrespectful.  I also think he brings anyone that plays with him down, has to be one of the least favorite pairings on tour.

[tembolo1284]

imakaveli, on 01 August 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:

jkumpire, on 31 July 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

i honestly believe what he needs is a wife and family. As I understand it, he's still single, and probably sees lots of significant others as he goes along. But IMO a spouse and children would do a lot to help him with the mental side of the game. When someone commits to you forever, and you have children with them it helps to ground you and keep your priorities in order.  It would be really hard to left your temper go knowing you have kids at home looking up to him as a dad and a man. There are other pros who have found out the hard way about that.

If he is married, I withdraw the comment, since I really don't look into the private lives of pro athletes. But that's my impression.

Yes, being committed forever helped Tiger a lot with his mental side and his priorities

I am pretty sure Sergio still got Nicole Horrex as a girlfriend (luck him btw!!)

Hopefully she doesn't mess with him how the shark's daughter did.

[CoachBerger]

He would be a very interesting case study with regards to how the mind affects what we do in performance:

1. On tour week in and week out he is a solid player however has not been in contention as much as one would think

2. In the majors it seems as though he is defeated before he even tees off.  If he is in contention there is a self doubt that creeps in and absolutely crushes his ability to finish the deal.

3. Ryder Cup: He is an absolute BEAST!  He has so much confidence and passion for the event, he expects to be the Hammer!

I really think he is fine with pressure however I am not sure he knows how to push through the obstacles of life...no fear, no excuses.

[QuigleyDU]

what did the baby shark do? I have not heard any tales of this.

[imakaveli]

CoachBerger, on 03 August 2012 - 03:18 PM, said:

He would be a very interesting case study with regards to how the mind affects what we do in performance:

1. On tour week in and week out he is a solid player however has not been in contention as much as one would think

2. In the majors it seems as though he is defeated before he even tees off.  If he is in contention there is a self doubt that creeps in and absolutely crushes his ability to finish the deal.

3. Ryder Cup: He is an absolute BEAST!  He has so much confidence and passion for the event, he expects to be the Hammer!

I really think he is fine with pressure however I am not sure he knows how to push through the obstacles of life...no fear, no excuses.

Maybe he is just more of a team player

[schmatt]

imakaveli, on 04 August 2012 - 08:25 AM, said:

CoachBerger, on 03 August 2012 - 03:18 PM, said:

He would be a very interesting case study with regards to how the mind affects what we do in performance:

1. On tour week in and week out he is a solid player however has not been in contention as much as one would think

2. In the majors it seems as though he is defeated before he even tees off.  If he is in contention there is a self doubt that creeps in and absolutely crushes his ability to finish the deal.

3. Ryder Cup: He is an absolute BEAST!  He has so much confidence and passion for the event, he expects to be the Hammer!

I really think he is fine with pressure however I am not sure he knows how to push through the obstacles of life...no fear, no excuses.

Maybe he is just more of a team player

I agree. Maybe when he plays in individual tournaments, he figures no one is being hurt by him giving up. When he's playing for the Ryder Cup, his team is counting on him to grind it out. Maybe he needs to take that approach to his individual tournaments.

[Jarri]

MtlJeff, on 28 July 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

Sergio probably isn't the most confident golfer in the world, but his woe-is-me attitude gets exaggerated too because he's brutally honest. You go inside for a beer after a tournament or qualifier at any club anywhere and there's 10 guys talking about the horrible break they got on hole 12, or the time they ended up in a divot etc...

How many guys have you seen spitting in the cup after missing a putt???

Edited by Jarri, 06 August 2012 - 10:04 AM.