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[freddyottawa]

Rebel420, on 18 July 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:

Looks like Mizuno is getting like every other OEM that folks here hate (TM anyone?) and replacing new products every 6 months

All Mizuno clubs are on a two year product cycle, and have been for some time. Not sure what you are referring to.

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The 64s look awesome, I just wish the chrome they use wasn't as shiny. I know, absolutely inane gripe. I'm still going to demo them of course.

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Mizuno to unveil MP Fli-Hi replacement MP-H4


Another new addition to the Mizuno range looks to be the new MP-H4 - a hybrid-style long iron designed to replace the MP-Fli Hi
Mizuno's Tour reps have been showcasing the new head to their staff players at The Open Championship, where a lot of players traditionally ditch their hybrids for long irons because of the wind and the firmer turf.
The MP-H4 looks to be designed to offer the best of both worlds in terms of the forgiveness of a hybrid but the control off the tee of a long iron.

[Onyx Z]

is it just me or do the H4's look strangely similar to the MP-30's?

Edited by Onyx Z, 18 July 2012 - 09:03 AM.

[pccasstpro]

This figures I just put a set of t-11's in to play !!! I love the look of the new wedge, now just do a satin chrome and a black ox finish and I will plop down the cash....

[station2station]

A few pics from Mizuno - I personally think these are the best looking MP irons created to date.

These angles are pretty damn nice.  Pics snapped at the Open Championship:

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station2station, on 18 July 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

A few pics from Mizuno - I personally think these are the best looking MP irons created to date.

These angles are pretty damn nice.  Pics snapped at the Open Championship:

Absolutely Stunning!   I fully agree!   Best MP irons to date.   I truly love the 62's ,  but these are just stunning!   Again...   all I ask is that Mizuno adds some really interesting custom shaft options and this will truly top off the cake!
These will be in my bag for sure!

[joesgonegolfing]

I love my 63's and MPR 12 Wedges.  The 64's look a fresher version of my 63's.  I also play two MP FLI HI irons in the 2 and 3.  They are great sticks and I do not carry any woods in my bag.  Sometimes after I hit one of the FLI HI clubs I look down at it wonder what it would be like to play a whole set of them...they feel that good. Perhaps the H4 irons answer that request.

While I don't see myself changing next season I know the 64's maybe a 2014 addition when my 63's are done. If you have not tried the FLI-HI irons...you really do not know what you are missing.

I hit the 2 235-240 off the tee and 225ish off the deck...its a just a pure stick.

Joe

[jasonnj1978]

Mizzy23, on 17 July 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

hokieputter,

There's really not a big difference between the 64's and the 60's. Both have identical perimeter weighting. Mp 62 + 63=64, the classic look of the 62, and diamond bar of the 63. Your purchase would be just something new to look at.

Agreed, if the MP-62 and MP-63 had a baby it would look like the MP-64.  Great looking head!!

[BigPete]

Most people who have tried the old mp fli hi irons like them and they work well if you don't like hybrids. For me it kind of makes sense to extend that idea to a complete set - a playable 2-pw set, with combo options if you prefer sleeker short irons. It seems to me they incorporated and consolidated the fli hi, mp 53 and jpx pro into one, flowing, forged set. I see these suiting a lot of players who are after a forgiving players type profile, without having crazy offset or massive soles.

Personally I reckon the wedges look amazing. Less busy than most and I'm sure we'll be treated to some explanation of why that channel is some kind of technological breakthrough in feel or sound or something.

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designdog, on 18 July 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

ron lefthanded holmes, on 18 July 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

fishtale17, on 17 July 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Most important question of all. Will they be offered in left handed. There is one in every crowd.

no there is 2 of us,would love to give them a try but will have to wait and see if we get them lefthanded

Now there are 3 of us. Mizuno's marketing decisions for lefties have had me moving away from the brand (not a big deal for them!)  If the 64's aren't in lefty, that is it for me...

make it four of us (plus i'm sure plenty of others).

i don't know which model will be lefty, as we traditionally don't get both.

on one hand you could guess we would get the 64's because we did not get the mp-69 so the most blade style iron in the current lineup for lefties is the mp-59. however, lefties did not get the 62's or 63's so maybe that would mean mizuno does not feel there is the demand for this niche of iron for lefties.

you could also guess that we would get the h4's if they truly are the replacement of the 53's. however, if they are meant to be replacement of the tweener jpx/mp iron (think mx-300, jpx 800 pro), then lefties never got either of those. also, mizuno did not make the latest version of the mp fli-hi for lefties, which maybe means we will get the h-4's because it will allow them to kill two birds with one stone and offer the fli-hi replacement and an iron set, but maybe not.

finally, it is possible we could get both sets or neither sets. mizuno has never been the most friendly lefty company so who knows.

throw in the previously mentioned jpx 825 non-pro/pro, which may or may not be coming out, and it seems it's still all up in the air.

[eldog-in-the-hizouse]

The 64s are nice looking, would be interested to see them side by side with the 63s. They don't look that much different. I'm not sure if I like the diamond cavity as well as the traditional cavity on the 62s though.

[Badgergolfer2]

Rebel420, on 18 July 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:

Looks like Mizuno is getting like every other OEM that folks here hate (TM anyone?) and replacing new products every 6 months

How so?  Mizuno is on their usual 2-year product cycle.  The 53s and MP T-11 both came out in 2010.  Way different from TM who comes out with 5 new drivers every year.

[NCg0lfer]

npark, on 17 July 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:

The H4's are hideous in the pics here, the top line of that 3 iron reminds me of the Callaway 95/96 BB irons...maybe it's just the pic and will look different in person. None the less odd club to replace the 53's that were pretty classic looking at address, I would hope they are actually either a JPX replacement or a new offering.

I agree completely. I was set on buying the H4 to replace my 53's but she looks a bit chunky. I'll give them a look when i can get them in hand but Im leaning towards passing at this stage.

[ron lefthanded holmes]

Gaijin_Golfer, on 18 July 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

Rebel420, on 18 July 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:

Looks like Mizuno is getting like every other OEM that folks here hate (TM anyone?) and replacing new products every 6 months

How so?  Mizuno is on their usual 2-year product cycle.  The 53s and MP T-11 both came out in 2010.  Way different from TM who comes out with 5 new drivers every year.

now now you to this is about the new irons please start a new thread if you want to bash both companies,

[tbowles411]

I'm sure the H4's were done to introduce the mid capper to the MP line.  That would give them a logical step into the line.  Slightly smaller than a true GI, slightly less offset but still gives you help.  I think it's a great move personally.

[DaveMac]

Disappointing!

[Oldboy]

Mizzy23, on 17 July 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

hokieputter,

There's really not a big difference between the 64's and the 60's. Both have identical perimeter weighting. Mp 62 + 63=64, the classic look of the 62, and diamond bar of the 63. Your purchase would be just something new to look at.

The changes are so subtle is there any nonhoing reason to get these if you've got an mp set less than 5 yrs old?  Seems to be a variation of a variation

[lukesmurf59]

Can't wait to give those H4's a smack but goodness those are some thick toplines

[bub72ck]

Beautiful sticks.  Best looking irons by Mizuno in a while.

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The 64s are absolutely gorgeous! I SURE hope they're available in lefty - love the transitional muscle cavity for forgiveness in the long clubs. Please, pretty please, Mizuno?

The H4s look hideous, and I had heard a rumor that the long clubs weren't going to be forged - how could this be? It's Mizuno we're talking about, and even their GIs have been forged.

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pdaero, on 18 July 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

The H4s look hideous, and I had heard a rumor that the long clubs weren't going to be forged - how could this be? It's Mizuno we're talking about, and even their GIs have been forged.

Go back and look at the first post in the thread.  Grain Flow Forged is clearly stamped on the hosel of the hollow 4 iron.

While I would love to be able to game the mp-69s, but that's not happening.  Building a set that morphs from the MP Fli-His in the long irons to conventional short irons makes sense for a lot of mid-cappers who might have pretty good swings most of the time, but don't want a lot of offset.  For me, beauty is as beauty does.  I will try them, but they will need to perform.

[tbowles411]

Bullroarer Took, on 18 July 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

pdaero, on 18 July 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

The H4s look hideous, and I had heard a rumor that the long clubs weren't going to be forged - how could this be? It's Mizuno we're talking about, and even their GIs have been forged.

Go back and look at the first post in the thread.  Grain Flow Forged is clearly stamped on the hosel of the hollow 4 iron.

While I would love to be able to game the mp-69s, but that's not happening.  Building a set that morphs from the MP Fli-His in the long irons to conventional short irons makes sense for a lot of mid-cappers who might have pretty good swings most of the time, but don't want a lot of offset.  For me, beauty is as beauty does.  I will try them, but they will need to perform.

Pretty much what I said.  These are for mid cappers to make the jump to the MP line.  Still gives some help, but makes them work a bit.

[Rebel420]

freddyottawa, on 18 July 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:

Rebel420, on 18 July 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:

Looks like Mizuno is getting like every other OEM that folks here hate (TM anyone?) and replacing new products every 6 months

All Mizuno clubs are on a two year product cycle, and have been for some time. Not sure what you are referring to.

This is exactly the type of comment a TM hater would say. Many o which in the same post say that Mizuno is what the poster wants. "after all, the mp-59 were just released, therefor Miz releases new clubs every 6 months ago". Comparing apples to oranges, mp64 are different category than mp59, just as TMs RBZ that were released 6 mos after R11, even though different categories.

My point was just a tongue and cheek comment meant to show how absurd some of the hate comments are.  

Personally, I like TM gear.  I also have no problem with Miz.  One works a little better for me than the other, but IMHO,most major mfr equipment is about equal quality, it's all a matter of taste. And yes, they all follow similar release cycles -- 18 to 24 months, baring cases where sales just aren't there and an improvement can bring them where they need to be

[Chazz]

wow...those lines on the mp 64 are sexy and the subtle raised Mizuno logo.... makes me want to put a cover on those heads and then stick my d%&% in it.

[BigPete]

Rebel420, on 18 July 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

freddyottawa, on 18 July 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:

Rebel420, on 18 July 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:

Looks like Mizuno is getting like every other OEM that folks here hate (TM anyone?) and replacing new products every 6 months

All Mizuno clubs are on a two year product cycle, and have been for some time. Not sure what you are referring to.

This is exactly the type of comment a TM hater would say. Many o which in the same post say that Mizuno is what the poster wants. "after all, the mp-59 were just released, therefor Miz releases new clubs every 6 months ago". Comparing apples to oranges, mp64 are different category than mp59, just as TMs RBZ that were released 6 mos after R11, even though different categories.

My point was just a tongue and cheek comment meant to show how absurd some of the hate comments are.  

Personally, I like TM gear.  I also have no problem with Miz.  One works a little better for me than the other, but IMHO,most major mfr equipment is about equal quality, it's all a matter of taste. And yes, they all follow similar release cycles -- 18 to 24 months, baring cases where sales just aren't there and an improvement can bring them where they need to be

You're the only one on this thread mentioning any other brand than what is being discussed. It's just pictures of new clubs.

[Doublebuck]

npark, on 17 July 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:

The H4's are hideous in the pics here, the top line of that 3 iron reminds me of the Callaway 95/96 BB irons...maybe it's just the pic and will look different in person. None the less odd club to replace the 53's that were pretty classic looking at address, I would hope they are actually either a JPX replacement or a new offering.

Hollow irons, really? TM Tour Preferred circa 1980's. Agree with you totally.

[GEO147]

Been toying with the idea of changing from my MP57 to the MP63, but those MP64 look really really nice, love the subtle disign and the minimal offset. Will be trying them out for sure. The wedges also look nice to me but not mad about the insert, you would have to have them in your hands though to know for sure.

Like an earlier poster said, I can see the 64 and the wedges (in bronze) in the bag in the future.

[Georgie Z]

Rebel420, on 18 July 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

freddyottawa, on 18 July 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:

Rebel420, on 18 July 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:

Looks like Mizuno is getting like every other OEM that folks here hate (TM anyone?) and replacing new products every 6 months

All Mizuno clubs are on a two year product cycle, and have been for some time. Not sure what you are referring to.

This is exactly the type of comment a TM hater would say. Many o which in the same post say that Mizuno is what the poster wants. "after all, the mp-59 were just released, therefor Miz releases new clubs every 6 months ago". Comparing apples to oranges, mp64 are different category than mp59, just as TMs RBZ that were released 6 mos after R11, even though different categories.

My point was just a tongue and cheek comment meant to show how absurd some of the hate comments are.  

Personally, I like TM gear.  I also have no problem with Miz.  One works a little better for me than the other, but IMHO,most major mfr equipment is about equal quality, it's all a matter of taste. And yes, they all follow similar release cycles -- 18 to 24 months, baring cases where sales just aren't there and an improvement can bring them where they need to be

Seems like you are arguing with yourself

[texcrom]

Nobody answered the question regarding release date Anyone know when they will be available?

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