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Is there a hole at your course that always beats you down?


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#1 Mr.Divot

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 10:30 PM

Just wondering if there was a specific hole at your course that just has your number and you can't figure out? There is a hole at our course that I've never scored better then par on and it's relatively short(380 yards and slightly downhill). I always hit it OB on that hole, I just don't know what it is. Maybe I"m too agressive and try  to make up for past mistakes, but I just can't help but to hit driver. Anyone?


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Posted 27 May 2012 - 10:34 PM

The course I've played most lately boggles me with the first hole. It's pretty simple: 500yd-ish par5, straight and usually with a helping cross-wind left to right. Well for the life of me I can never put a good drive out to the fairway. It's almost always a push or outside-in slice. Every other hole with driver is straight or draw with an occasional pull, but that first is just torture for me. Always scratch my head about it.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 11:36 PM

One hole at my course is a relatively simple par 4, about 425 yards. It is a dogleg right with bush all down the right and left sides. You have to hit a nice controlled cut off the tee to set up for an easy approach in. Or you can easily hit over the trees. I have a low ballflight and struggle to get it up and I usually hit a draw. One day I went into this hole at 6 deep and rolled out even. Ever since that day, I struggle with that hole. Almost makes me want to play a little 5 iron down there and just hope for a bogey.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 12:09 AM

Yes!!! The 7th. 375m downhill dogleg right par 4. Landing area is a little tight but the green is wrapped in a pond on the left side with an open right side. No matter how well I hit my drive that pond is always in my head. It never used to be that way but five or six rounds in a row making double or triple bogey certainly got in my head.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 12:17 AM

There are about 14 holes on my course that beat me down.

In all seriousness, yes there is. Par 5 that plays straight uphill for about 380, then drops to below the tee box for the last 120. I make either a 4, or a 7 every time. Its the 6th hole and a few weeks ago I stood on the tee at 3 under , i then stood on the 7th tee and +1. Posted Image

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 12:26 AM

They all take turns at having a go at me.

OP man up and beat it down with 3W or 5 W even a hybrid. You said its down hill and short so just bunt one down the middle, landing on a down slope it should run for ever and you will only be a club or two more going in. Done.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 12:33 AM

View Postmozgolf, on 28 May 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

They all take turns at having a go at me.

OP man up and beat it down with 3W or 5 W even a hybrid. You said its down hill and short so just bunt one down the middle, landing on a down slope it should run for ever and you will only be a club or two more going in. Done.


Haha, believe me I've thought about it but I'm usually driving the ball very well before I reach this hole. I just don't know what it is and I'm not going to back down from the challenge of this hole. I'm playing again in a few days and will report back with how it turned out. I'll be hitting driver again by the way.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 07:57 AM

Par 3 11th.  Elevated tee box, big round flat green, two simple bunkers right, pond most of the hole left.  Plays 230 from the absolute tips, about 185 from the men's tees,  almost always has a right to left quartering wind that's helping. I should birdie this sucker almost every time,   But I'm always scrambling for par.  I think because it's the most visually "easy" hole on the course, with that huge green I let up on my concentration.  That and when I was fighting a hook and filled that pond with balls I tend to leave myself to the right.   Frustrates me to no end.  Now I wish they would put the pin on the right!   Give me some challenge in this hole!!!!

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:36 AM

The 5th hole at the crappy little executive where i learned to play....it's a 135 yd par 3 with trees to the right of the green....

When i started....it was a 6 iron.....now it's an easy 8....and EVERY time i play it, i'm the damn trees....it's uncanny.  I never, ever, fade my short irons....but i get to that hole, big high fade....right into those damn trees.

That being written though....i've actually become pretty good and chipping out of trees.....so at least i have that going for me.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 08:59 AM

I agree that all the holes take there turn beating me down but the 3rdhole gets me every time. I'll start with 1, easy par 4 280 yards wide open to the right, then the 2nd, straight away par 4, 280 yards. You have to get you tee shot through a gap at the start but after that wide open. Then to the 3rd, 500 yard par 5 bunker about 240 out on the right, dogleg right a 400 yards and a pond guarding the front. That is the easy part, my natural flight is a fade and there is this one dang tree on the left side about 80 yards up that I catch every dang time, leaving with like 400 yards to the pin. It sucks.


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:32 AM

The 2nd at my home course, 415 yd par 4 but its up hill always into the wind and the green is a slight turtle shell. By into the wind, I don't mean a paltry breeze either. Last week I hit a punch 8 from 110 and STILL came up short
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:54 AM

2nd hole at one of my favorite courses is a 165 par-3. The green is elevated by about 10ft., and is guarded by a 20ft wide brook. There is a huge clump of trees on the right separating it from the next fairway, and on the left, there's the forest and the bridge that takes you across. That leaves a window of about 50ft to see the green.

The first time I played there, the river got my 1st ball, then the forest got my 2nd. I chose to drop the third and take the hit, but that hole has b****-slapped me. In a year and a half, I have yet to hit that green. I've landed many a ball across, some even on the fringe, but none of them on the green. I've even BIRDIED that hole, sending a lucky chip in the hole after a good landing on the fringe. But whenever I get on that 2nd tee box, the green seems to vanish into a telescopic tunnel-vision effect.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 11:30 AM

there's a 400yd par 4 at my course that has OB left AND right off the tee, as well as OB right and somewhat behind the green too that is 100% in play, oh and left of the green is a picnic, just basically a bunker about 8 feet beneath the surface. Basically you can lose your ball in about 25 spots. You have to hit driver because you really don't want to go at the green with any kind of long iron. And anything that misses the fairway left kicks OB because of how the ground is shaped. Anything other then a fairway and green brings double into play. It's brutal. Toughest hole i've ever played
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 11:44 AM

I have four holes on three courses.

1.  Prince William GC:  A 202 yard Par 3.  I've hit this green only ONCE in 10 years.  It has a big swath of junk at the 180 mark.

2.  Broad Run GC:  A 220 yard Par 3, with water left and trees right, leading into the 7th hole.

3.  Bristow Manor GC:  A 467 yard Par 4/5.  The fairway STOPS at 200 yards you have to hit it over the junk onto the next fairway with trees right and water beyond that.  I ALWAYS screw this hole up!

4.  Also at Bristow Manor:  A 201 yard Par 3.  The hole is straightforward with junk at the 140 mark.  I have no idea why I can never hit this green.
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 12:01 PM

Don't really have a home course per se but there are always holes that just don't fit your eye and then it becomes a mental issue.


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 01:10 PM

I can't say that any specific holes on my home course (Nevel Meade, Prospect, KY) beats me down.  However, I have had more than a few rounds where I was playing well into the 16th hole only to double bogey this short par 4.  It is only 310 yards long, but sharp downhill dogleg left so you need to lay up with an iron or hybrid, if you pull or push your tee shot you will end up in the heather, in difficult rough or OB.  If you hit it too well, that is down the left side of the fairway, but a little long it goes partially down the hill and out of the fairway into a downhill lie in the rough which is such that your ball can be buried in grass or sitting up like on a tee with zero possibility of putting any spin on your 3/4 wedge shot.  That is the first way to get beat down.  However, the real issue to me is the small downhill green that does not hold the ball well and if you mishit your shot or misjudge the wind, distance, etc., you will either be short for a very difficult chip or pitch or if long (which is a strong possibility if you hit the center to back portion of the green because it will not hold in the summer) it is possible you will go down the hill into the hazard or even OB if you miss just two steps to the right of the green.  The slope of this green is also downhill away from you in the upper portion so the safe landing area is just a few steps wide.  

Why not just drive the hole?  Well, you can and hit what would appear to be a perfect drive to find you went OB, or into the hazard of knee high heather, but you don't see this area from the tee so if you don't find your ball you can't assume it is in the hazard and not OB.  If you don't hit the drive solid so it is reasonable to accept you did not clear the heather which you have to drive over to aim at the green, then your next shot is going to be a long iron or hybrid since you need to go back to where it crossed the hazard.

It is a target hole, but with little forgiveness and a demanding 2nd shot which can be difficult to judge if there is any wind, which is often the situation.  The final problem with this hole is that the course always has difficulty keeping this green healthy because of the lack of good air flow.  They have a large electric fan that blows continuously near the green to move the air in the summer.  This results in a green that putts differently that the other 17 holes on the course.  The ball is also much more influenced by the grain of the grass than the other holes.  The only way to really putt the hole is to be aggressive which can also backfire.

Because of its length it is a hole you feel like you should birdie, but mishit either shot, misjudge the wind, or just get slightly out of the fairway on your tee shot and you will be penalized.  It is the one hole of the 18 that if you can expect a bad bounce, bad lie, or what appears to be a good shot end up in the crapper, it is on #16 at Nevel Meade.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:17 PM

All of them.  :russian_roulette:

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:40 PM

Two get me at my home course. Number 13 has water running the length of the entire hole. Too far right and you get blocked by trees. Long par 4 with a very narrow fairway.
number 18 is a par 4 that is not difficult to reach in 2 but is uphill. The green has bunkers in the front and the slopes to the back, down a hill. It is very hard to get a long iron to stick, so a long tee shot is needed. I have not parred 18 in a year!
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Posted 29 May 2012 - 11:55 AM

The first hole at any busy course , I can't take a group of strangers watching me tee off. I would never make it on Tour haha

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:02 PM

Yep... Par 3 17th.  It's 153 yards.  Green is tucked behind a pond and some trees (looks like a short dogleg right from the tee).  The pin is visible from the tee  in front left locations but for some reason, that watering hole next to the green has a ball magnet in it.  Aiming for the center of the green, nearly always hit right on that hole and drop one in the drink.  Drives me nuts.  I aim far left and hit far left.  lol


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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:03 PM

2nd hole at my home course. 178 yard par 3. Usually downwind and the green is sloped back to front. Sounds easy but I can never hit it off the tee.
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Posted 29 May 2012 - 03:17 PM

Almeerderhout, Yellow course, hole 8. Par 3 160 yards. Trees close to the tee, bunker upfront of the green and trees left and right of the green. Straight forward par three but buddy and I couldn't hit the green for a long time. Always would wound up in the sand or close to the trees. Untill last round we lasered the end of bunker at 133 yards, and all of a sudden the green looks different. 2 pars and 2 happy golfers :partytime2:

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 03:50 PM

hole 2 at the local muni i alwats play, 338 water on the right until the hundred yard marker, I always push it put right......well not always, but it is an easy flat hole were you can really attack the pin, easy par to birbie hole.   always end up one over


ive tried evrything off the tee.....Driver, 4 wood, hybrid, 6i.....uh must be a mental block

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 04:08 PM

Yep.   There is typically at least 1 hole on most courses that cause me a problem or have given me some bad experiences.

Off the top of my mind, I have a course that has a links like feel where it's exposed to the wind and has tall prairie grass.   #7 and #11 always makes my stomach churn.   They are both Par 4's at 425-435 yards and usually play into a south wind.   Both have danger left and right and I think for me...that's my problem.  No bail-out zone.

#7 has tall grass and a dropoff  on right (they have marked as a lateral hazard to avoid excessively long searches) and hard-pan turf and drop off into tall grass on the left (so the ball will kick left and run).   What makes it worse...about 250-260 yards down the middle, they have an area with tall grass so it makes the hole seem that much more narrow and harder.   Anything less than 3 wood guarentees a 200+ yard 2nd shot into the hole.

#11 has OB on the right and a drop-off and tall grass on the left.   The ground tilts from right to left so anything that hits the ground will kick left which will make anything on the left side a lost ball.   The right side does have some mounding so if you hit a cut and land on the wrong side of the mounds, it'll kick right and be OB.   Again, plays into a south wind so anything less than a wood makes it a very long 2nd shot.   I almost always err on the left side and watch it hit the ground kick left and disappear in the tall grass.

Someone recommended that I try to play those holes like a 3 shot hole....play a 4 or 5 iron and just try to make no worse than a bogey.   It's actually a good strategy, but it kills me to think that I'm accepting bogey as the best I'll likely make on the hole.   Considering I've had triples and worse...it might not be a bad idea.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 04:09 PM

The #1 handicap at my usual course. 6th hole, straightaway 460 yard par 4 with a left to right sloping fairway, heavy forest on the left about 3 yards off the fairway, more space on the right side, but still gets you into trees and in trouble. Fairway is pretty wide open to allow you to go for it, and I just haven't been able to put together 2 nice shots to get even close.

Knock a drive to 190 yards, pull a solid 4i just enough to catch the branches overhanging the left side and drop the ball at about 120 in the roots, try to punch it to the green and shank it into oblivion between the green and the 4th green. Slice a drive into the trees on the right, go to take my medicine and chip onto the fairway, chip keeps rolling and into the trees on the left. Pull the drive into the trees on the left, ball disappears forever.

I've pretty much done it all on the hole except for par.


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Posted 29 May 2012 - 04:25 PM

There was.....until about 2 weeks ago. Really, its a little nothing of a hole but it always gave me so much trouble. Short par 4 with junk along the right and trees that come out on the right side right about where your drive will go if you hit it straight off the tee. Left side has a small outcropping of trees about half way down but if you get past there its really the best angle into the green although you're in the rough. The way the tee shot sets up, the box points you straight down the fairway and towards those trees on the right. The fairway is flat but abruptly slopes down and goes left at about 230 from the box. If you hit it straight off the tee, your ball will run under the trees down on the right...dead. The green is peanut shaped sitting at an angle with water along the left and a bunker on the right. VERY undulating. Anyway, this hole always had my number. The last time I played it, I busted my tee ball hugging the perfect line down the left. Ball ended up about 120 out on a side hill lie in the first cut on the left..right where it needed to be for the best angle in. Hit a beautiful little punch PW that came in low..one bounce..check..rolled out another 10ft and stopped about 4ft from the hole. Made the putt and birdied that SOB! First time ive ever birdied that hole after 3 years of playing at this course. It was the only hole left that I had not birdied.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 05:20 PM

Holes that test our character should motivate us to raise to the occasion, not feel beat down, even if it does cost strokes.  I never give in or up... Sure I've faced plenty of difficult challenges and holes.  I just won't let them get the best of me.  If I fall down, its while facing holes that are too easy.
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Posted 29 May 2012 - 09:27 PM

Number 13 at Dearborn Country Club.  Brutal par 3.  Plays anywhere from 180-205 with water down the left side that really doesn't come into play.  False front with a green that is maybe 8 yards at its deepest and 5 yards at its shallowest while being 35 yards wide.  Holding a 5 or 6 iron is a chore.  Short is dead and long is worse.
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#29 Richardu_six

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 10:13 PM

The ones with water...

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 10:41 PM

The course I grew up on has about 12 holes that give me fits and makes me work for everything.  The reason is that those 12 holes dogleg to the left with trees and I play a fade.  I miss a lot of fairways and have to play from around scattered trees into the greens.  The few holes that don't dogleg are 4 par 3s and the other 2 have a tree that limits my teeshot to the right side of the fairway.

It is really not set up for my game at all so i always have to work for everything I get there.  If I could learn to play a draw off the tee with control i could shoot 65 everytime I tee it up there with ease though.


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