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#1 outwardnine

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 09:51 AM

So yesterday I'm in my local golf store and they have a Nike vr pro str8 fit in the sale rack. I pick it up and it's 10.5 degrees with a real fubuki alpha 70 in it. The price is £99. I look again and it's x flex. My ss is around 95mph and I normally play stiff driver and regular everything else. Handicap is around 12. I figure it's real cheap and I can reshaft it and sell the fubuki on for a profit.

I buy it and something in me says "give it a try before you reshaft it"

I took it to the course yesterday and hit it just as far as my current vr pro with px6.0, only much straighter.

Now I know I'm deluding myself, and I dare not tell my playing partners what driver I have, but you can't deny the evidence.

My problem us have I got the guts to play what works or what "should" work?

Opinions?


#2 SpinMill75

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:25 AM

What loft is your current driver?



Perhaps the fact that the new driver head is a 10.5?  It could be a perfect match for your swing.....In any case, play what works and don't worry about what other think.



cheers, spin

#3 Altiman94

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:25 AM

Hit what works...why is that even a question?

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:50 AM

What is the issue here? 10.5 not being cool enough? Oh please

#5 outwardnine

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:51 AM

No, 95mph swing, x flex shaft. I don't have a problem with loft at all.


#6 Mulligan26

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 11:10 AM

Like the others said, play what works man. The game is about getting the ball in the hole, not whats written on your driver shaft  :good:

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 11:26 AM

I thought 105 SS was the transition point to a S flex, and your hitting an X with a 95? o.O

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 11:28 AM

View Postoutwardnine, on 06 May 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

No, 95mph swing, x flex shaft. I don't have a problem with loft at all.

Ah I was going to say c'mon man, well on that note all I have to say is don't question what works

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 12:01 PM

What is often lost in the measure of how the driver is performing is one simple thought - it isn't how far down the line that counts the most. It is how far offline the shots are going.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 12:06 PM

Such a weird game, if you keep hitting it well keep playing it man.


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Posted 06 May 2012 - 12:11 PM

Maybe with the way you load the shaft with the driver makes this X-flex.  work for you.   Keep up the good work.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 12:50 PM

My opinion is play what works best for you out on the golf course. Out on the course is the best test of a driver, or whatever equipment you're testing. Screw LM #'s and indoor tests. Those only give you a glimpse of what works for you. Also, just because a shaft says X on it doesn't mean it flexes out that way. Looks like your too into numbers and letters and what you're supposed to be playing instead of what you are seeing, feeling and believing what you see with your own eyes. Don't be the guy who tells Heidi Klum to back off when she climbs all over you, and believe you should be hooking up with Betty White.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:28 PM

As others have said it may not be playing to an x flex. I just recently had my Pine I20 Fairway wood with a TFC Stiff reshafted. Just for kicks the builder freq it before pulling it and it came out to be playing at around a 5.0. Reshafted with a Kyoshi Purple 75X and is now playing where I need it.

Just goes to show you what it says on the shaft does not always mean it is that.

#14 outwardnine

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:43 PM

Thats what I thought, this thing doesnt feel like an X. It feels just a hair stiffr than my Nke PX 6.0

I have another game booked for Thursday so I might get some range time with it before then.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:45 PM

What if a tipped r that was fit for you went both longer and better dispersion?  Also, not all x flex are created the same!  Good luck.


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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:53 PM

Could be loft, could be length of shaft difference, could be weight, could be you now swing harder to compensate, could be that particular shafts characteristics or my guess...a combination of these things.  Play it a few more rounds before deciding.  I have been BURNED by the honeymoon period many times.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:56 PM

I still have my other VR pro with PX6.0 I don't intend to get rid of it anytime soon. I think I'll give the Fubuki another try and see how things go.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 06:51 PM

I believe some of the Nike drivers are a little shorter than the competitions.  That may be why you are hitting it well.  Try the same driver with a regular flex shaft, or get fit.

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:10 PM

My swing speed will range from 97 to 102, and I've used a 75 gram X flex shaft for about 4 years now that's produced the best driving stats I've ever had.  The shaft doesn't feel as stout as other X flex shafts that I've tried, so it's hard to say.  There is no really reliable way to fully characterize a shaft's stiffness.  


I want to encourage you to play it if it works, and don't worry about the idea that you need to have a swing speed of X or Y to play and X flex shaft.  Some are softer than others, and there are so many different bend profiles that you really just have to rely on your own instincts to tell whether something is right for you.


I have a basement full of 757s, Diamana Blues and Whites, USTs....lots of shafts.  The one that clicked for me was a shaft I literally bought off of Ebay just to have something to put in a head I didn't want so that I could trade it in with some other clubs years ago when I had a bunch of stuff stolen from my car.  

But for some reason I stopped on the way home, rather than going to Golf Galaxy, and played 9.  I drove the ball that day, with that $15 shaft, better than I had ever driven it in a round of golf before in my life.  It was one of those days where you thought it wouldn't last somehow, but there was something so solid and great about that driver that I kept it in the bag.  It's been in a few different heads since then, but the shaft has been the best driver shaft I've ever hit.  It just somehow works for me.  I was out at the range this afternoon just marveling at how easy it was to hit and how stable and solid it feels.  $15 bucks for the kind of driving that I hoped at some point in my career I would be able to experience.  

Don't mind the flex or the type of head.  I don't carry the ball more than 240 or 245.  No fitter would every fit me into X, and this shaft may not be an X on one or another OEM's flex scale but whatever it is, I would pay $500 for another one that was exactly like it.  I've hit so many shafts of the same model that felt different that I think really good clubs are just not common.  There is something really hard to describe about a club that is OK and a club that delivered every fairway in 4 of 20 rounds you played last year and 10 of 14 in most of the rest of the rounds.

Edited by NPVWhiz, 06 May 2012 - 08:11 PM.


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Posted 06 May 2012 - 11:16 PM

View PostNPVWhiz, on 06 May 2012 - 08:10 PM, said:

My swing speed will range from 97 to 102, and I've used a 75 gram X flex shaft for about 4 years now that's produced the best driving stats I've ever had.  The shaft doesn't feel as stout as other X flex shafts that I've tried, so it's hard to say.  There is no really reliable way to fully characterize a shaft's stiffness.  


I want to encourage you to play it if it works, and don't worry about the idea that you need to have a swing speed of X or Y to play and X flex shaft.  Some are softer than others, and there are so many different bend profiles that you really just have to rely on your own instincts to tell whether something is right for you.


I have a basement full of 757s, Diamana Blues and Whites, USTs....lots of shafts.  The one that clicked for me was a shaft I literally bought off of Ebay just to have something to put in a head I didn't want so that I could trade it in with some other clubs years ago when I had a bunch of stuff stolen from my car.  

But for some reason I stopped on the way home, rather than going to Golf Galaxy, and played 9.  I drove the ball that day, with that $15 shaft, better than I had ever driven it in a round of golf before in my life.  It was one of those days where you thought it wouldn't last somehow, but there was something so solid and great about that driver that I kept it in the bag.  It's been in a few different heads since then, but the shaft has been the best driver shaft I've ever hit.  It just somehow works for me.  I was out at the range this afternoon just marveling at how easy it was to hit and how stable and solid it feels.  $15 bucks for the kind of driving that I hoped at some point in my career I would be able to experience.  

Don't mind the flex or the type of head.  I don't carry the ball more than 240 or 245.  No fitter would every fit me into X, and this shaft may not be an X on one or another OEM's flex scale but whatever it is, I would pay $500 for another one that was exactly like it.  I've hit so many shafts of the same model that felt different that I think really good clubs are just not common.  There is something really hard to describe about a club that is OK and a club that delivered every fairway in 4 of 20 rounds you played last year and 10 of 14 in most of the rest of the rounds.

ok now I need to know the name and stats, mostly for satisfaction but also cause I'm a ho thats gotta know




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Posted 06 May 2012 - 11:22 PM

My guess would be that it brought your spin down a bit to give you the added distance, and the fact that you hit an x straighter than an s is no surprise... most players do, but sacrifice distance.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 02:52 AM

NPVWhiz, that is a fantastic reply, more or less sums up my situation perfectly. Thank you.




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