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[candess]

[quote name='KYMAR' timestamp='1336216017' post='4853390']
It is hilarious when people try to pretend like they took Earl's comment's seriously. If you did shame on you. The guy plays golf for Pete's sake. He was never addressing human rights. I thought it was obvious the comments were in jest.
You Tiger critics are a bunch of hypocrites. One moment you're saying he's an embarrassment to the game and there are other more exciting golfers to watch but, you guys spend more time critiquing his behavior and tracking his progress more than the so called "fan boys."


You are trying to suggest he was kidding? Here is some more comic relief from Earl

"[size="2"]"Please forgive me...but sometimes I get very emotional...when I talk about my son.... My heart...fills with so...[/size]much...joy[size="2"]...when I realize...that this young man...is going to be able...to help so many people.... He will [/size]transcend[size="2"] this game...and bring to the world...a humanitarianism...which has never been known before. The world will be a better place to live in...by virtue of his existence...and his presence.... I acknowledge only a small part in that...in that I know that I was personally selected by God himself...to nurture this young man...and bring him to the point where he can make his contribution to humanity.... This is my treasure.... Please accept it...and use it wisely.... Thank you."[/size]

[size="2"]Yuck, yuck, yuck, What a card![/size]



Right, he's really serious.
At the advice of his advisers and Earl Tiger, wouldn't even take a firm position on his handicap college mate. He has never taken a position on political or racial issues and you want to believe that Earl meant what he said?

[PGArox]

It is so blatantly obvious that Earl Woods was deadly serious in what he said.  This is how he saw his son.

Tiger clearly had different ideas.  He probably felt smothered to a certain degree.

[nochct1]

Do you nutjobs realize that you spend way too much time "analyzing" a golfer? He's having an ok year and missed the cut by a shot. Is it even worth a thread? The best golfers miss cuts. The best basketball players have bad games. The best pitchers are pulled after 3 innings.

Why do you people spend so much time trying to figure him out? Do you do this with other people you don't know? Do you try to figure out the impact that parents or divorce had on your favorite quarterback or pitcher?

How can you possibly invest so much time trying to figure out someone you don't know. Are any of you successful? Good parents? Do you have friends?

Let it go. If you don't like the guy, then don't watch him. Don't think about him. Don't read about him.

If your obsessed with him, then maybe take a step back. You don't know him, and his actions do nothing to make you a better person.

[Thrillhouse]

nochct1, on 05 May 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Do you nutjobs realize that you spend way too much time "analyzing" a golfer? He's having an ok year and missed the cut by a shot. Is it even worth a thread? The best golfers miss cuts. The best basketball players have bad games. The best pitchers are pulled after 3 innings.

Why do you people spend so much time trying to figure him out? Do you do this with other people you don't know? Do you try to figure out the impact that parents or divorce had on your favorite quarterback or pitcher?

How can you possibly invest so much time trying to figure out someone you don't know. Are any of you successful? Good parents? Do you have friends?

Let it go. If you don't like the guy, then don't watch him. Don't think about him. Don't read about him.

If your obsessed with him, then maybe take a step back. You don't know him, and his actions do nothing to make you a better person.

YEAH! You guys need to listen to this guy when he tells you all how to live your lives! Occupy golfwrx!

[minitour]

The Grifter, on 05 May 2012 - 03:21 AM, said:

I’m sure, almost positive, that somebody has it it right ... not sure who tho.

This guy knows what he's talking about.

[PGArox]

nochct1, on 05 May 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Do you nutjobs realize that you spend way too much time "analyzing" a golfer? He's having an ok year and missed the cut by a shot. Is it even worth a thread? The best golfers miss cuts. The best basketball players have bad games. The best pitchers are pulled after 3 innings.

Why do you people spend so much time trying to figure him out? Do you do this with other people you don't know? Do you try to figure out the impact that parents or divorce had on your favorite quarterback or pitcher?

How can you possibly invest so much time trying to figure out someone you don't know. Are any of you successful? Good parents? Do you have friends?

Let it go. If you don't like the guy, then don't watch him. Don't think about him. Don't read about him.

If your obsessed with him, then maybe take a step back. You don't know him, and his actions do nothing to make you a better person.

Dude, you're missing the entire point of this, or any other message board.  It's a place people come to for casual conversation; a place where folks can exchange ideas and thoughts (hopefully freely) with like-minded individuals.

It's also a place where people come for entertainment.  It's like going into a pub, saddlin' up to the bar, ordering a drink, and shootin' the [deleted] for a while.

[minitour]

[Madden]
I think if Tiger wants to win more tournaments, he has to shoot lower scores than anyone else.  That's his problem.
[/Madden]

[golfin2]

Tiger can miss the cut in every regular tournament he plays from now til forever but if he wins 5 majors he is a legend. If he doesn't then he will be remembered for everything else, problems etc etc.

[PGArox]

nochct1, on 05 May 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Are any of you successful? Good parents? Do you have friends?

OK, if you must know, I make $7.50/hr., I've been divorced five times, and I have zero friends.  But what does that have to do with anything?

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll tighten this rope around my neck.

[Frankie Lob Wedge]

minitour, on 05 May 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

[Madden]
I think if Tiger wants to win more tournaments, he has to shoot lower scores than anyone else.  That's his problem.
[/Madden]

In watching these guy today play in NC - it looks like Tiger is incapableof playing the game they play.  Rory is striping 380 yard drives like popcorn.  Players shooting -14 after 3 days on a pretty hard track.  These are younger guys who grew up with modern training.  This is a new era and the Tiger era is over.

[Frankie Lob Wedge]

PGArox, on 05 May 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

nochct1, on 05 May 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Are any of you successful? Good parents? Do you have friends?

OK, if you must know, I make $7.50/hr., I've been divorced five times, and I have zero friends.  But what does that have to do with anything?

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll tighten this rope around my neck.

For some reason - I bet you are a club member at Riviera.    Great finish there this year except for Keegan's drooling and endless fidgeting.

[nochct1]

PGArox, on 05 May 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

nochct1, on 05 May 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

Do you nutjobs realize that you spend way too much time "analyzing" a golfer? He's having an ok year and missed the cut by a shot. Is it even worth a thread? The best golfers miss cuts. The best basketball players have bad games. The best pitchers are pulled after 3 innings.

Why do you people spend so much time trying to figure him out? Do you do this with other people you don't know? Do you try to figure out the impact that parents or divorce had on your favorite quarterback or pitcher?

How can you possibly invest so much time trying to figure out someone you don't know. Are any of you successful? Good parents? Do you have friends?

Let it go. If you don't like the guy, then don't watch him. Don't think about him. Don't read about him.

If your obsessed with him, then maybe take a step back. You don't know him, and his actions do nothing to make you a better person.

Dude, you're missing the entire point of this, or any other message board.  It's a place people come to for casual conversation; a place where folks can exchange ideas and thoughts (hopefully freely) with like-minded individuals.

It's also a place where people come for entertainment.  It's like going into a pub, saddlin' up to the bar, ordering a drink, and shootin' the [deleted] for a while.

There's nothing casual about tiger discussions. I've sat in plenty of bars and have discussed sports and have never heard people discuss a player the way people talk about tiger here. Go back and read some of the stuff people say. If you heard that in a bar you would think those people are crazy.

[KYMAR]

Candess

Here is a link to the SI story published 12.23 1996 by Gary Smith who was in attendance.

I am fascinated to know how you could possibly conclude this was some off the mark attempt at humor.

SI Story

Edited by KYMAR, 05 May 2012 - 07:30 PM.

[TheDarkOne]

nochct1, on 05 May 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

There's nothing casual about tiger discussions. I've sat in plenty of bars and have discussed sports and have never heard people discuss a player the way people talk about tiger here. Go back and read some of the stuff people say. If you heard that in a bar you would think those people are crazy.

I'm neutral in this on going debate about Woods. I would say however that I think you might be going a little over the top. Still some people here do pile it on Woods to much. At some point, enough is enough. Let's give the guy a break.
Like you said, he almost made the cut this week. If he can get the yips under control, he might break into the Top 20 at the Players.

[nochct1]

TheDarkOne, on 05 May 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

nochct1, on 05 May 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

There's nothing casual about tiger discussions. I've sat in plenty of bars and have discussed sports and have never heard people discuss a player the way people talk about tiger here. Go back and read some of the stuff people say. If you heard that in a bar you would think those people are crazy.

I'm neutral in this on going debate about Woods. I would say however that I think you might be going a little over the top. Still some people here do pile it on Woods to much. At some point, enough is enough. Let's give the guy a break.
Like you said, he almost made the cut this week. If he can get the yips under control, he might break into the Top 20 at the Players.

Didn't you at some point claim that you truly understand wood better than most? At times I think you have claimed that you can predict his behavior. I've read your stuff on here. If I heard you saying those same things in a bar, I would go running for the door.

In fact you're more over the top about Tiger than anyone on here. Your not neutral about anything, and I think everyone knows that. If it wasn't for your over analysis of Tiger this would be a much better message board.

Edited by nochct1, 05 May 2012 - 08:42 PM.

[DriveIt"N"3Putt]

[quote name='TheDarkOne'



So... Don't you have a bridge to guard from some billy goats? His game wasn't solid and he hit more putts than me yesterday, but he isn't dead and he is still going to be playing golf for a long time. Get over it and quit trolling.

[PGArox]

Frankie Lob Wedge, on 05 May 2012 - 05:24 PM, said:

For some reason - I bet you are a club member at Riviera.

Ssshh, we don't want that to get out.

[rockinar]

It's not a slump, he's just lost all confidence and he's a head case. He will never be the same old dominating Tiger. He's talented and might win here and there. But will NEVER be the same. It happens to a lot of golfers, and it's happened to Tiger.

[Frankie Lob Wedge]

PGArox, on 05 May 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

Frankie Lob Wedge, on 05 May 2012 - 05:24 PM, said:

For some reason - I bet you are a club member at Riviera.

Ssshh, we don't want that to get out.

   I knew it!    ;-)  

This guy I know plays in these local corporate and charity tournaments.  He won something and the prize a trip to play at a charity tourney at Riviera.  He went there a few months ago and Dave Stockton was there giving putting lessons.  He said it was a beautiful course and had a great time.  

He played in another thing locally and they won again.  The prize was a 4 day thing at Pebble!   I almost got sick.  I told him two of the most exclusive places to play.  I was envious.   I have not seen him play but he is supposedly very good.

Should be an exciting day tomorrow with a lot of good guys at the top of the leaderboard.

[Frankie Lob Wedge]

rockinar, on 05 May 2012 - 10:52 PM, said:

It's not a slump, he's just lost all confidence and he's a head case. He will never be the same old dominating Tiger. He's talented and might win here and there. But will NEVER be the same. It happens to a lot of golfers, and it's happened to Tiger.

What happened today at Quail Hollow and the supposed pictures of him at Las Vegas last night sort of tell the story.  

You have young and healthy Rory hitting 380 yard missiles off the tee.  

The other guys having a huge battle at the top of the leaderboard are just crushing it.  Rory is killing it but these other guys are right there with him.

Meanwhile he is back in Vegas.  I think he knows it is over too.  I think it is sinking in.

Sad and maybe we should get off of it but blame the sports media for the mega hype that was created around him.

[Thrillhouse]

Frankie Lob Wedge, on 05 May 2012 - 11:27 PM, said:

What happened today at Quail Hollow and the supposed pictures of him at Las Vegas last night sort of tell the story.  

You have young and healthy Rory hitting 380 yard missiles off the tee.  

The other guys having a huge battle at the top of the leaderboard are just crushing it.  Rory is killing it but these other guys are right there with him.

Meanwhile he is back in Vegas.  I think he knows it is over too.  I think it is sinking in.

Sad and maybe we should get off of it but blame the sports media for the mega hype that was created around him.

I bet there was a hedge fund manager from New York who after a tough week flew out to Vegas for the weekend and was out last night doing lord knows what with lord knows whom as well. Are we to assume his life and career are over as well because he is out in Vegas blowing off steam the same way Tiger is? To echo the guy at the top of the page:

COME ON SON!

[TML]

Thrillhouse, on 05 May 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

Frankie Lob Wedge, on 05 May 2012 - 11:27 PM, said:

What happened today at Quail Hollow and the supposed pictures of him at Las Vegas last night sort of tell the story.  

You have young and healthy Rory hitting 380 yard missiles off the tee.  

The other guys having a huge battle at the top of the leaderboard are just crushing it.  Rory is killing it but these other guys are right there with him.

Meanwhile he is back in Vegas.  I think he knows it is over too.  I think it is sinking in.

Sad and maybe we should get off of it but blame the sports media for the mega hype that was created around him.

I bet there was a hedge fund manager from New York who after a tough week flew out to Vegas for the weekend and was out last night doing lord knows what with lord knows whom as well. Are we to assume his life and career are over as well because he is out in Vegas blowing off steam the same way Tiger is? To echo the guy at the top of the page:

COME ON SON!

There was "a" hedge fund manager in Vegas?  Haha.....I've met so many hedge fund guys on their way to Vegas in Scottsdale, I thought that's what all hedge fund guys do.

Once Tiger is back to seeing multiple escorts, I think he will do well on the tour.

[mikpga]

Redhill, on 04 May 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

With Eldrick apparently missing the cut at Wells Fargo, as of now, what is the source of his problems?

Physical ?  Mechanical ?   Mental ?

Well...

We know that "on the range" he is striking the superbly...

We know that statistically he's doing quite well...

He has won at Bay Hill this year...

We know that he is swinging fairly differently from many years prior...

It is my OPINION, that he is simply having a challenging time TRUSTING the changes he has made during competition...

Plus, IMO, his lie angles need to be flattened!

[bscinstnct]

Sir Nick!

I take back all of my criticisms of your useless ness in the booth.

Faldo made an excellent point about how we always hear how TW is "striping" it on the range but then is so afraid of say, water on the right, then can't fade right and pulls it left 5 miles

He advises TW to get his @ss off the range, and I say leave Foley there and the Trackman, and just practice all your shots under course conditions

Edited by bscinstnct, 06 May 2012 - 10:27 AM.

[justinp766]

bscinstnct, on 06 May 2012 - 10:26 AM, said:

Sir Nick!

I take back all of my criticisms of your useless ness in the booth.

Faldo made an excellent point about how we always hear how TW is "striping" it on the range but then is so afraid of say, water on the right, then can't fade right and pulls it left 5 miles

He advises TW to get his @ss off the range, and I say leave Foley there and the Trackman, and just practice all your shots under course conditions

+1000 Sir Nick Faldo




Tiger needs to start playing like 25 tournaments a year like all the other pro's.

Anyone else notice that hitting balls on the range is a completely different experience than hitting balls off the fairways trying to play a round of Golf.

I know my handicap didnt drop to scratch until I started playing 9-18 holes , 4-5 times a week and also When I started only  playing 1-2 rounds a week my handicap started going up towards the 10's again.

Who would have thought ....The more you play Golf , the better you get.

Edited by justinp766, 06 May 2012 - 10:32 AM.

[mlamar]

My 2cents:  I think he understands the Foley System - the problem is he's trying to be "TW of Old".  If I'm not mistaken "TW of Old" used to work the ball (High - Low - Left - Right); with the Foley System - It's not there. It promotes a Straighter Flight or Fade.  Just go with that !!! ... Period.  Fairways & Greens keep you in the game !!!

[hbgpagolfpro]

mlamar, on 06 May 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

My 2cents:  I think he understands the Foley System - the problem is he's trying to be "TW of Old".  If I'm not mistaken "TW of Old" used to work the ball (High - Low - Left - Right); with the Foley System - It's not there. It promotes a Straighter Flight or Fade.  Just go with that !!! ... Period.  Fairways & Greens keep you in the game !!!

Augusta exposed that style of play.  You can't just play straight lines there, and you can't hit 2-iron stingers off the tee.  You have to be able to curve the ball with the driver.

If Tiger wants to just win at Bay Hill every year, this is the way he can play.  He might also be able to win British Opens this way as well, but he better find the putter.

[bscinstnct]

I just don't get why he is trying to fade this pattern

Backswing takes the club inside, big hip turn, hands inside

Perfect for an inside downswing and a very easy draw

But he then goes over the top to fade it?

Any experts on this thing? Seems like he is fighting his own swing

[mizunostaffer]

straight isnt always good on a windy links course, the ability to hold the ball against a crosswind especially if its firm, is priceless

[farmer]

New theory...Peter Kostis analyzed Rory's swing today.  He is an arm swinger, the arms move and the body follows.  So, maybe Tiger is a natural arm swinger who has been trying to make himself into a body swinger.  This is my new theory, but if I'm wrong, Kostis goes under the bus.