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[Redhill]

With Eldrick apparently missing the cut at Wells Fargo, as of now, what is the source of his problems?

Physical ?  Mechanical ?   Mental ?

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[MB GOLF]

Yes.

[DieHard519]

MB GOLF, on 04 May 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

Yes.

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DieHard519, on 04 May 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

MB GOLF, on 04 May 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

Yes.

You never cease to amaze with your insightful commentary. Keep up the good work.

[jayswafford44]

Sean Foley's gotta go.

He needs to go hang out with Bubba Watson and learn how to "just play golf."

Tiger swinging at 80% is still better than pretty much everyone on planet Earth.

I'm as big a fan of Tiger as anyone, but it's getting to the point where it's hard to watch. Every shot results in a sour faced head drop or a club drop, and every 8-10 foot putt that he never makes is for par instead of birdie.

[Dayton]

I think his problems are almost all his putting.  And I think it is all mental.

It seems like every time I see him play, he misses 1 or 2 putts that he NEVER missed in the past.  Add that up for the week and it is killing him.

[cwglum]

Tiger is way too caught up in killing the ball off the tee.  Lee Trevino said it best ... every club in your bag has a yardage, play it to that yardage and accept it for what it is.  If Tiger dropped his ball down at 285 in the fairway every time, which for him would be probably 75% of his max, think of how good he would be again.  But instead he's out there trying to hit his tee ball 320-330, and he's lost his ability pull a rabbit out of his hat to cover up the mistakes made from the tee.

[highhook]

Whatever the problem is I hope it lasts forever.

[broth518]

It's between his ears his competitive advantage is gone

[legitimategolf]

He's in a slump.

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[ej002]

Someone should take his driver and three wood and snap them in half.  Then take the Nike putter and roll over with a steam roller, then hand him his Scotty.

[edr9tp]

i agree. if he slowed his swing down and focused more on smooth tempo and transition I think it would make a huge difference

cwglum, on 04 May 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

Tiger is way too caught up in killing the ball off the tee.  Lee Trevino said it best ... every club in your bag has a yardage, play it to that yardage and accept it for what it is.  If Tiger dropped his ball down at 285 in the fairway every time, which for him would be probably 75% of his max, think of how good he would be again.  But instead he's out there trying to hit his tee ball 320-330, and he's lost his ability pull a rabbit out of his hat to cover up the mistakes made from the tee.

[DFranz1]

He hits it great on the range and then loses it on the course. That to me would make it more mental than anything. He just needs to try and stay in a more positive frame of mind when he's out on the course. It seems like he has no confidence out there.

[coco]

x2 on the YES response.  All of the above if you prefer.  But seriously, once he fell of the pedestal and lost the aura of invincibility his dome cracked and is letting him down.  Plus all the swing changes that have not taken are not good for the mind either....

[HateTheHighDraw]

His driving is so terrible it even makes ME lose confidence on the tee box.

[dmbgolfer]

If only he'd had more reps.

[MadGolfer76]

He wants to be the longest again, and that isn't going to happen. I think part of this is that he is in a silent "driving contest" with whoever his playing partners are. The distance was part of the "intimidation" factor (a juvenile concept anyway)...and it isn't a factor anymore. He doesn't know how to play when people aren't scared of him. Kind of sad.

Edited by MadGolfer76, 04 May 2012 - 02:44 PM.

[hazebronso]

This just in!!
Phil (2nd most majors won currently playing PGA Tour golf) has missed 63 cuts .... just sayin

[tnord]

first and foremost it's mental which bleeds over into the physical.

he has no confidence.  he's still trying to be what he was instead of accepting what he is.

[Frankie Lob Wedge]

Dayton, on 04 May 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

I think his problems are almost all his putting.  And I think it is all mental.

It seems like every time I see him play, he misses 1 or 2 putts that he NEVER missed in the past.  Add that up for the week and it is killing him.

Tiger has a bad case of the yips.  If he cannot cure them soon then it is over.  Many golfers careers were finished when they got the yips.

He could probably still win with the 2-iron if he could cure the yips.  Maybe Jack can teach him how to hit a 1-iron.

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[cmusic]

Mental problems...  As Butch Harmon has said, Tiger needs to stop trying to make a perfect swing and just play golf.  I think Foley is a better teacher than Haney (after seeing his teaching methods on his Golf Channel show) but Foley needs to stop carrying his camera around Tiger during practice and constantly showing Tiger the video of his swing.  He's getting Tiger to concentrate on being in perfect position at every step of his swing instead of concentrating on hitting the ball to where it should be going.

On Tiger's putting, maybe he needs another Lasik surgery to help him see the putting line better.

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hazebronso, on 04 May 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

This just in!!
Phil (2nd most majors won currently playing PGA Tour golf) has missed 63 cuts .... just sayin

and den???

[golfin2]

Any other player having the actual tournament results that Tiger has had this year everyone would be saying "hey that guy is having a great year"

But if Tiger doesn't win every tournament it's the end of the world. Lol, some of you people need to get real. He's fine, he doesn't need to dump foley.

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hazebronso, on 04 May 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

This just in!!
Phil (2nd most majors won currently playing PGA Tour golf) has missed 63 cuts .... just sayin

...and signed autographs for every kid who asked after each cut. Just saying...

[msean]

Not sure, but his problems probably don't include worrying about a**hats on the internet who think it's funny to call him Eldrick

[scotchblade]

Redhill, on 04 May 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

With Eldrick apparently missing the cut at Wells Fargo, as of now, what is the source of his problems?

Physical ?  Mechanical ?   Mental ?

You forgot karma.

Karma aside, this is golf, the most fickle of games. Anyone thinking he could sustain that incredible level of play indefinitely is koo koo for cocoa puffs.

Edited by scotchblade, 04 May 2012 - 02:52 PM.

[Redhill]

I'm thinking it's mostly mental which is popping up in the form of lost confidences in many aspects of his game.

I had no idea how great a part the mental side was in the PGA golf world.  I knew that is was important but guess I put too much emphasis on the mechanics of the swing and ball contact.  I guess even bad examples can serve a good purpose.

[Redhill]

msean, on 04 May 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Not sure, but his problems probably don't include worrying about a**hats on the internet who think it's funny to call him Eldrick

Are you related to Foley?   Just asking.

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jayswafford44, on 04 May 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

Sean Foley's gotta go.

He needs to go hang out with Bubba Watson and learn how to "just play golf."

Tiger swinging at 80% is still better than pretty much everyone on planet Earth.

I'm as big a fan of Tiger as anyone, but it's getting to the point where it's hard to watch. Every shot results in a sour faced head drop or a club drop, and every 8-10 foot putt that he never makes is for par instead of birdie.

Agreed.  It's like one of those movies where people get burnt out trying too hard, then they hit bottom & find some kinda guru in a gutter on the streets that helps them rediscover their love for what they did.  That's what Tiger needs.

[spitfisher]

cmusic, on 04 May 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

Mental problems...  As Butch Harmon has said, Tiger needs to stop trying to make a perfect swing and just play golf.  I think Foley is a better teacher than Haney (after seeing his teaching methods on his Golf Channel show) but Foley needs to stop carrying his camera around Tiger during practice and constantly showing Tiger the video of his swing.  He's getting Tiger to concentrate on being in perfect position at every step of his swing instead of concentrating on hitting the ball to where it should be going.

On Tiger's putting, maybe he needs another Lasik surgery to help him see the putting line better.

I don't think so because he misses the same puts, left to right break, in the 3.5 to 7 foot length, missing to the low side.

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