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2012 Compression Data Update


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#61 storm319

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 10:05 AM

View Postdm289, on 12 May 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

Check out the specs of the new NXT S and the 2010 DT SoLo... both 2 piece balls and similar numbers.. did Titleist rebadge the 2010 DT SoLo as the NXT S and raise the list price $10/dozen???

NXT Tour S has a thinner cover and different dimple design.


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Posted 13 May 2012 - 10:13 AM

View Postkazooblue, on 13 May 2012 - 07:16 AM, said:

View Poststorm319, on 12 May 2012 - 10:25 PM, said:



Simply 2 different devices for measuring the same thing. The Atti device has been the industry standard for roughly 70 years. The majestix was created in 2003 and is a very similar design.


which one is more accurate for compression data

As you can see by the chart, the differences in average compression are negligent. All other things equal, you will not notice a difference in a few compression points.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 06:24 PM

I'm a sub 100mph swing and usually play NXT Tour.  I kind of play anything but that's the ball I play most often.  I've played the Bstone e6 and got very similar results with that.  Recently bought some Qstars and found I didn't hit them as far off the tee but did hit them slightly farther with irons and they didn't hold the greens as well. So they're out.  

I'm thinking about the B330-RXS as I see it's a lower compression than the NXT Tour, so that said should this ball go farther for me being that it's a lower compression and I typically swing driver around 96mph? What I'm looking for is the distance and accuracy I get with the NXT Tour but a little more stopping power chipping around the greens.  

Also looking at the Hex Chrome and Zstar SL.

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:50 AM

View Postglfpunk, on 13 May 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:

I'm a sub 100mph swing and usually play NXT Tour.  I kind of play anything but that's the ball I play most often.  I've played the Bstone e6 and got very similar results with that.  Recently bought some Qstars and found I didn't hit them as far off the tee but did hit them slightly farther with irons and they didn't hold the greens as well. So they're out.  

I'm thinking about the B330-RXS as I see it's a lower compression than the NXT Tour, so that said should this ball go farther for me being that it's a lower compression and I typically swing driver around 96mph? What I'm looking for is the distance and accuracy I get with the NXT Tour but a little more stopping power chipping around the greens.  

Also looking at the Hex Chrome and Zstar SL.

It won't necessarily go farther due to the compression.  The length has to do with the compression as well as spin.   The RXS will spin more off the driver.  With a low swing speed (I also have a very similar swing speed to yours) this extra spin may also give you additional length.  However, the higher spin may cause more backspin and less roll out resulting in a shorter driver.  

I hit the NXT tour longer than the Bridgestone B330-RXS, however the RXS is a far superior ball around the greens and will irons.  I have a nearly identical swing speed to yours and I have tried the PRO V1, the HEX Chrome, the NXT tour, and the B330 RXS.  In terms of overall playability (driver length, iron length, iron/wedge spin, control, putting) I would rank them as follows:

1. Bridgestone B330 RXS
2. Titeliest Pro V1
3. Callaway HEX Chrom
4. NXT Tour

I currently play the B330 RXS and love it.  With that being said I am best from 100 yards and in so I really prefer a ball that I can control with wedges and that putts well.  I terms of pure distance with the driver I would rank the balls as follows (from longest to shortest):

1. NXT Tour
2. Callaway HEX Chrome
3a. Bridgestone B330 RXS
3b. Titeleist Pro V1

We are talking a difference of maybe 5-10 yards at most.  

My advice is to give the RXS a try and if you don't love it you can't go wrong with the Chrome.  The NXT tour just doesn't have the greenside spin or softness that I need out of a ball.  Best of luck.


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Posted 15 May 2012 - 10:23 AM

i've never seen this data before.....pretty interesting.

i prefer a softer feel, but have a higher swing speed (~114 driver).  how low can i go on compression before really starting to lose distance?  below 110? below 100?

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 09:06 PM

I wanted to bump this thread because if your looking for similar golf balls to try or something that fits your swing speed this pdf is a big help.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 08:12 AM

Ok, I am now so confused about this entire compression thing. I thought I had it figured out and though that Bridgestone and Callaway were right in saying that they have balls for moderate swing speeds. Then I started digging.

If the HX Chrome is for moderate swing speeds (my guess would be under 100) then why if you look at the pros who play their ball on the LPGA and not one of them plays the Chrome? They all play the Black. I looked further and the average swing speed on the LPGA is 94. This makes me wonder if my 100mph swing speed would be fine with the black.

I really wish the companies could have a concensous on this. Being at 100mph I am right in the middle and not sure what I should be playing.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 08:39 AM

So I just noticed something. The balls below are the last 4 balls I have played with over the years. They all appear to have high compression. I have a steep angle of attack and generate a lot of spin. 100-105 CHS.

Callaway Hex Tour Black 117 98 114 96    78 88
Z-Star X 105 86 108 90    82 92
Callaway Tour iX 111 92 107 89    86 96
Bridgestone B330 (07) 110 91 115 97    80 90
TP Black 117 98 115 97    80 90

The question is.... what the heck does tha mean? Can someone translate?

PS: I remember trying the Bridgestone RX (08) when it came out (since I was playing the 330). I hit low knuckle balls with it, that went absolutely nowhere).
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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:05 AM

stateman,

Don't buy the hype about compression. It's just the newest buzzword that they are touting in marketing of golf balls. It matters just about as much as the dimples, the cover material, the number of layers or any other characteristic you can name.

When they design a golf ball they combine all those things together and create whatever performance they are aiming for with that model. It's like Chrysler trumpeting "Hemi" as the reason their trucks are great.

P.S. Actually I just came up with a more direct analogy. Choosing a golf ball based on its compression is like choosing a golf club based on your handicap. Sure, high handicappers do better with some clubs and low handicappers with others but it's not remotely the only thing that determines what clubs will work best for you.

Edited by Fourmyle of Ceres, 02 October 2012 - 09:12 AM.


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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:19 AM

View Poststateman, on 02 October 2012 - 08:12 AM, said:

Ok, I am now so confused about this entire compression thing. I thought I had it figured out and though that Bridgestone and Callaway were right in saying that they have balls for moderate swing speeds. Then I started digging.

If the HX Chrome is for moderate swing speeds (my guess would be under 100) then why if you look at the pros who play their ball on the LPGA and not one of them plays the Chrome? They all play the Black. I looked further and the average swing speed on the LPGA is 94. This makes me wonder if my 100mph swing speed would be fine with the black.

I really wish the companies could have a concensous on this. Being at 100mph I am right in the middle and not sure what I should be playing.

I'd guess these ladies hit the ball in the middle of the clubface time after time so get maximum distance from their swings.  The courses they play are shorter thus even though the ladies are "shorter"  off the tee  they still hit a lot of shots within their scoring zone.  Like the guys, they have very consistent swings time after time and know what to expect from their balls.  So, I'd guess,  a high spin "tour" ball is more important to them for control around the greens than is maybe gaining a few yards off the tee with a "distance" ball.


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Posted 02 October 2012 - 09:39 AM

In saying that I thought that the Chrome was the one that had more spin off the driver to help those that can't create enough spin? Also into the greens.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 10:19 AM

View Poststateman, on 02 October 2012 - 09:39 AM, said:

In saying that I thought that the Chrome was the one that had more spin off the driver to help those that can't create enough spin? Also into the greens.

According to Golf Digest 2012 golf balls hot list the Black has more spin than the Chrome on 1/2 wedge shots.  But, according to the article the Chrome is about the 10th spinniest ball available for these shots.  The Black is the 5th spinniest.   Most spin is maxfli U4.  The girls (like the guys) would get "paid" (or whatever) to use the "tour" balls.  At 95 mph swing speed hitting ball in middle of clubface these girls likely get as much spin off driver as they need with the Black.

Edited by marte, 02 October 2012 - 10:20 AM.


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Posted 22 June 2014 - 01:36 PM

Callaway has just come out with the supersoft with a compression in the 30's.  I love this ball.  I don't have a mach speed club head swing, but this ball fires off my clubs.  I love this ball.  The roll out on the greens are a little longer, but I can play for that.

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