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[storm319]

Here is the golfballtest.org/golfballselector.com yearly compression data update. Looks like they included data for all new 2012 major OEM balls.

The Wilson Duo looks to have taken the over as the lowest overall compression ball on the market.

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Edited by storm319, 03 May 2012 - 07:07 PM.

[Georgie Z]

storm319, on 03 May 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

Here is the golfballtest.org/golfballselector.com yearly compression data update. Looks like they included data for all new 2012 major OEM balls.

The Wilson Duo looks to have taken the over as the lowest overall compression ball on the market.

Great post!  I've been waiting for this chart to come out for weeks. Thanks!

[tampay]

Yes I don't bother checking this anymore. Storm is always on top of it !

[Upper Michigan]

Thanks for posting.

[LOVE4LPGA]

And as expected, OVERALL compression (51) is higher than core compression (40).

I'll probably take a buy at the ZIP. They are TWO-FER $25 at the local store.

IMO, Wilson is dominating the low compression ball game.

In the meantime, Titleist is running a web page deriding the role of compression. LOL!

storm319, on 03 May 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

Here is the golfballtest.org/golfballselector.com yearly compression data update. Looks like they included data for all new 2012 major OEM balls.

The Wilson Duo looks to have taken the over as the lowest overall compression ball on the market.

[JBent9610]

Thanks for the post, storm!

FWIW, according to their data, the only 2012 ball that comes close to the popular 2008 TP Red is the Callaway Hex Chrome. It's within a couple of points on both compression lists, and the cover on the Chrome is rated as slightly softer.

[nova6868]

That new Callaway Hex Black is 117?

What...? Sure doesn't feel that hard.

[ochowie]

nova6868, on 03 May 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

That new Callaway Hex Black is 117?

What...? Sure doesn't feel that hard.

That seems really high to me as well.

[HydePark]

storm319, on 03 May 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

Here is the golfballtest.org/golfballselector.com yearly compression data update. Looks like they included data for all new 2012 major OEM balls.

The Wilson Duo looks to have taken the over as the lowest overall compression ball on the market.

Thank you for posting this info.  I am uncertain how to interpret the data, though.  If convenient, would you please explain the various columns?

Thank you!

HydePark.

[Grim]

Hyde just look at the compression ratings, rule of thumb is higher compression means higher swing speed required for best results. Dont worry about the MPI stuff.

I too was suprised to see the Hex Black is higher compression than the 20XI.

[bwhitish]

Wheres the Q Star?

[inthefairway]

Thanks!!!  It's nice to have an up to date Compression Data Chart!!!!!!

[Steel Dillo]

What does MPI stand for?

[SnapFade2]

dam im gona start playing hex black

[turnbowm]

Storm,

Thanks for the info... much appreciated!

[JBent9610]

I wonder why they've done the regular Srixon Tri-Speed, but never the Tour version.

[Asics10]

I noticed that about the Chrome to Tp Red comparison as well.  I bought a box of Chromes' and I definitely see some similarities to the Tp red, especially off the tee.  Still have 3 boxes of reds stashed for tournament play though, BRING IT BACK TMAG!!!!

[storm319]

JBent9610, on 04 May 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

I wonder why they've done the regular Srixon Tri-Speed, but never the Tour version.

They only have the original 2007 Trispeed listed. I have been hoping they would test the 2010 Trispeed & Trispeed Tour for the last 2 years to no avail.

[David81]

Asics10, on 04 May 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

I noticed that about the Chrome to Tp Red comparison as well.  I bought a box of Chromes' and I definitely see some similarities to the Tp red, especially off the tee.  Still have 3 boxes of reds stashed for tournament play though, BRING IT BACK TMAG!!!!

The Z Star's numbers are pretty close as well?

[ed27063]

MPI is their propritory ranking system wher the ball with the highest overall compress is given a value of "100".  Same for cover hardness.

Highest overall compression ball is the Callaway Tour i(z) 2010 model with a raw value of 111/107 for a MRI of 100
Lowest overall compression ball is the Noodle + Easy Distance with a raw value of 60/61 for a MPI of 41/43

The range does not go from 100 to 0 but 100 to 41 for overall compression and 100 to 83 for cover hardness

Hardest cover hardness is the Top Flight Freak and softest (so far) is the Nike 20XI

[storm319]

ed27063, on 04 May 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

MPI is their propritory ranking system wher the ball with the highest overall compress is given a value of "100".  Same for cover hardness.

Highest overall compression ball is the Callaway Tour i(z) 2010 model with a raw value of 111/107 for a MRI of 100
Lowest overall compression ball is the Noodle + Easy Distance with a raw value of 60/61 for a MPI of 41/43

The range does not go from 100 to 0 but 100 to 41 for overall compression and 100 to 83 for cover hardness

Hardest cover hardness is the Top Flight Freak and softest (so far) is the Nike 20XI

The compression MPI looks to be more of a scale conversion than an overall ranking. The cover hardness MPI is simply an additional 10 added to the measurement. I think it was just their way of comparing each measurement on a common100 point scale. I personally ignore MPI and focus on the average measurements.

[JBent9610]

David81, on 04 May 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

Asics10, on 04 May 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

I noticed that about the Chrome to Tp Red comparison as well.  I bought a box of Chromes' and I definitely see some similarities to the Tp red, especially off the tee.  Still have 3 boxes of reds stashed for tournament play though, BRING IT BACK TMAG!!!!

The Z Star's numbers are pretty close as well?

Actually, the other balls that come close (according to their data):

07 Bridgestone e5+
07 Titleist ProV1
10 Wilson FG Tour
12 Callaway Hex Chrome

That's +/-3 AVG points on both compression scales and having a cover that is equal to the 08 TP Red or softer.

Ignoring the cover hardness and going by +/-3 compression points on both scales alone, the following are also close:

07 Srixon Z-URS
07 Callaway HX Pearl
08 Top Flite Gamer
10 Srixon Z-Star

The odd thing is that none of those were ones I remember people saying were a good replacement for the TP Red. The Z-Star and ProV1 were higher launching for me and I didn't get near the distance I did with the TP Red. The e5+ is supposed to be spinnier off the driver as well. Balls that people recommend for similarity (One Tour D, ProV1x, B330, TP5, etc.) are all higher compression.

[RMGC_NV]

Very interesting to see that the '12 RX and RX-S are identical in terms of compression.

Would someone far more knowledgeable than myself tell me what the lowest compression urethane ball is on that list? I would appreciate it.

Edited by RMGC_NV, 05 May 2012 - 08:42 AM.

[gavman07]

To me it looks like anyone near the 90-99 mph swing speed who still wants spin around the greens would really benefit from the Bridgestone Tour 330 RX-S.  It has a much lower compression than a majority of the other lower swing speed balls and has a soft cover.  I currently hit the Pro-V1 and the Hex Chrome.  I'm going to give the Bridgestone RXS a try.  Maybe I will gain some distance of the tee.   The only problem is if it spins too much off the driver.

Has anyone else tried this ball?

Is the spin of the driver considerably more than the Pro-V1 or Hex Chrome?

[marte]

Thanks Storm319.  Was going to post question on Titleist Velocity and NXT Tour S compression.  You've answered it.  Thought Velocity felt hard..now I see why..91-95 compression and 90 cover hardness. Used mostly TM Burner Tour last year and they are 76 compression and 79 hardness. TM Rocketballz just a little higher comp and hard than Burner Tour.

[10of14]

gavman07, on 05 May 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

To me it looks like anyone near the 90-99 mph swing speed who still wants spin around the greens would really benefit from the Bridgestone Tour 330 RX-S.  It has a much lower compression than a majority of the other lower swing speed balls and has a soft cover.  I currently hit the Pro-V1 and the Hex Chrome.  I'm going to give the Bridgestone RXS a try.  Maybe I will gain some distance of the tee.   The only problem is if it spins too much off the driver.

Has anyone else tried this ball?

Is the spin of the driver considerably more than the Pro-V1 or Hex Chrome?

I played the RX-S all last year and loved it.  I decided to try and find a ball with similar playability, but less expensive.  I have been playing Wilson Duo and TF V2.  However, I went back to my RX-S on Friday and I'm back in love with it...I don't care what it costs!  

As for spin off the driver...little to none for me.  It spins less than the V1 and is longer too.  I am interested in giving the HEX Chrome a try though too.

[gavman07]

10of14, on 05 May 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

gavman07, on 05 May 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

To me it looks like anyone near the 90-99 mph swing speed who still wants spin around the greens would really benefit from the Bridgestone Tour 330 RX-S.  It has a much lower compression than a majority of the other lower swing speed balls and has a soft cover.  I currently hit the Pro-V1 and the Hex Chrome.  I'm going to give the Bridgestone RXS a try.  Maybe I will gain some distance of the tee.   The only problem is if it spins too much off the driver.

Has anyone else tried this ball?

Is the spin of the driver considerably more than the Pro-V1 or Hex Chrome?

I played the RX-S all last year and loved it.  I decided to try and find a ball with similar playability, but less expensive.  I have been playing Wilson Duo and TF V2.  However, I went back to my RX-S on Friday and I'm back in love with it...I don't care what it costs!  

As for spin off the driver...little to none for me.  It spins less than the V1 and is longer too.  I am interested in giving the HEX Chrome a try though too.

I have tested the HEX Chrome, the Pro V1, and the B330 RX-S and the best all around ball for my swing was the Bridgestone RX-S.  

The Pro V1 felt great, but was shorter off the driver for me and spun a little to much.  The Hex Chrome is a great ball too especially for the price, but it just did have the feel or spin around the greens that the other two balls had.  The Bridgestone B330 RX-S has it all for a lower swing speed.  It feels good of the driver and has above average distance off the driver.  Feels great off the irons.  Has the green side spin of a tour ball and puts very well.  

I will be using the B330 RX-S for the remainder of the season.  I have played four rounds with it now and absolutely love it.  I think more people should give this  ball a try.  

[GatorNate11]

Wow, I used the Hex Black, and I personally didn't think the compression would be that high.

[10of14]

gavman07, on 06 May 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

10of14, on 05 May 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

gavman07, on 05 May 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

To me it looks like anyone near the 90-99 mph swing speed who still wants spin around the greens would really benefit from the Bridgestone Tour 330 RX-S.  It has a much lower compression than a majority of the other lower swing speed balls and has a soft cover.  I currently hit the Pro-V1 and the Hex Chrome.  I'm going to give the Bridgestone RXS a try.  Maybe I will gain some distance of the tee.   The only problem is if it spins too much off the driver.

Has anyone else tried this ball?

Is the spin of the driver considerably more than the Pro-V1 or Hex Chrome?

I played the RX-S all last year and loved it.  I decided to try and find a ball with similar playability, but less expensive.  I have been playing Wilson Duo and TF V2.  However, I went back to my RX-S on Friday and I'm back in love with it...I don't care what it costs!  

As for spin off the driver...little to none for me.  It spins less than the V1 and is longer too.  I am interested in giving the HEX Chrome a try though too.

I have tested the HEX Chrome, the Pro V1, and the B330 RX-S and the best all around ball for my swing was the Bridgestone RX-S.  

The Pro V1 felt great, but was shorter off the driver for me and spun a little to much.  The Hex Chrome is a great ball too especially for the price, but it just did have the feel or spin around the greens that the other two balls had.  The Bridgestone B330 RX-S has it all for a lower swing speed.  It feels good of the driver and has above average distance off the driver.  Feels great off the irons.  Has the green side spin of a tour ball and puts very well.  

I will be using the B330 RX-S for the remainder of the season.  I have played four rounds with it now and absolutely love it.  I think more people should give this  ball a try.

+1 though my tests were with different balls.  I played the RXS last year and loved it.  I decided on the Wilson Duo and TF Gamer V2 this year due to lower price point and similar characteristics.  On Friday, I had hit a cart path with one of my Wilson's. At the next hole, I reached in my bag and was surprised that I had an RXS in there, but decided to put it play.  The rest is history.  I played stellar with this ball the rest of my round and the love affair with it is rekindled.

Edited by 10of14, 06 May 2012 - 03:55 PM.

[Agent Jim]

I played the Duo last week and am going to play it tomorrow. I thought the thing was going to smush and stick to the club its so soft. It seriously feels like a marshmallow.