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[kekoa]

Skaffa77, on 03 May 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

kekoa, on 02 May 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Yikes

''My mom told me, 'Hey, there's a caddie that said he made $60,000 caddying at my club. The caddie stays at home and works four days a week. He's made $60,000. You've only made $30,000,' '' Kim said. ''I couldn't do anything but laugh.''

Sounds like something a Korean mom would say.    For those wondering...it's not a derrogatory statement...my mom is Korean and while she is a very caring person...she also has a tendency to be brutally honest.

Stuart - Did your mom ever say something that blunt to you?

No, but she beat me with some wooden chipstix.  does that count?  

[tembolo1284]

Poor dude....hope he gets himself in order soon.  Fun guy to watch.

[tbowles411]

I hate hearing and seeing golfers struggle.  On top of that, he's been hurt.  I hope he gets it back soon.

[chiguy]

Sad to see he's doing that bad and that it's getting to him.  He may have partied a bit much but who among us wouldn't have been tempted to go down that path with such success at a young age?  I sure hope he turns it all around.

[greendot1001]

Skaffa77, on 03 May 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

kekoa, on 02 May 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Yikes

''My mom told me, 'Hey, there's a caddie that said he made $60,000 caddying at my club. The caddie stays at home and works four days a week. He's made $60,000. You've only made $30,000,' '' Kim said. ''I couldn't do anything but laugh.''

Sounds like something a Korean mom would say.    For those wondering...it's not a derrogatory statement...my mom is Korean and while she is a very caring person...she also has a tendency to be brutally honest.

Stuart - Did your mom ever say something that blunt to you?

I am korean myself and I have to say, such comments are very common in Asian families... However, I don't support those kind of comments because although it may be out of care, it seems to be more hurtful than helpful. Lots of parent and child relationships are ruined in such high standard, over pressuring asian families IMO. :/

[Skaffa77]

kekoa, on 03 May 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

Skaffa77, on 03 May 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

kekoa, on 02 May 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Yikes

''My mom told me, 'Hey, there's a caddie that said he made $60,000 caddying at my club. The caddie stays at home and works four days a week. He's made $60,000. You've only made $30,000,' '' Kim said. ''I couldn't do anything but laugh.''

Sounds like something a Korean mom would say.    For those wondering...it's not a derrogatory statement...my mom is Korean and while she is a very caring person...she also has a tendency to be brutally honest.

Stuart - Did your mom ever say something that blunt to you?

No, but she beat me with some wooden chipstix.  does that count?  

Funny...mine was a wooden spoon...had more mass than a chopstick....mom figured that one out after the chopstick had no effect.   LOL!

Edited by Skaffa77, 03 May 2012 - 02:58 PM.

[Skaffa77]

greendot1001, on 03 May 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

I am korean myself and I have to say, such comments are very common in Asian families... However, I don't support those kind of comments because although it may be out of care, it seems to be more hurtful than helpful. Lots of parent and child relationships are ruined in such high standard, over pressuring asian families IMO. :/

Well...I'll try to avoid the downward spirial that a debate on parental upbringing can generate...

The thing I found interesting was that other Koreans weren't surprised by the comment.   I personally believe it has a lot of do with family pride/honor and social prestige.   While my parents never really "over-pressured" me to achieve a certain standard, I did understand when my mom would make a comment about my lack of initiative for school and homework.

[dale4ace]

truly a sad story..hope he recovers and gains his form back!

[FDSouthPaw]

I've never got the impression he had everything in order mentally.  He might have a ton of injuries that are holding him back, but he wasn't going to cash in on his talent because his head wasn't in the right place.  So with that, I'm not optimistic on his future.

Exhibit A:  http://pmsports.com/home/news/2010/10/21/anthony-kim-gets-way-too-drunk-in-vegas/

I've gotten way too drunk before.  I've gambled away plenty of money in casinos.  I've never combined the two and been kicked out, though.

[tatertot]

I feel really bad for him. I have tendinitis in both elbows, and it doesn't really hurt normally - if you're just sitting there. But if you swing, it hurts - alot! It's not about managing pain, it's about the joint being weak and not bending right. You feel like a weenie for not playing, because it doesn't hurt. But as soon as you swing, you remember why you're not playing. Not saying that's what's hurting Anthony, but lots of elbow injuries are like this.

[mandudebro]

FDSouthPaw, on 03 May 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

I've never got the impression he had everything in order mentally.  He might have a ton of injuries that are holding him back, but he wasn't going to cash in on his talent because his head wasn't in the right place.

That's kind of a leap based on the 'impression' you had, no?  A couple PGA Tour wins, a legendary Ryder Cup performance, wealth, fame...at what point has he cashed in on his talent enough to meet your standard?

Seems like the disdain for AK comes from a weird place for a lot of people.  This, despite the struggles the recent article has brought to the forefront.

Injuries in sports can be devastating and don't discriminate.  Hope he can get healthy and fight back to his prior form.

[rockinar]

Bottom line. Anthony Kim's PGA Tour career is over. You can't win on the PGA Tour, the Nationwide Tour or even the Hooter's Tour by shooting 80.  Hope he saved his money.

He was cocky and arrogant, but at least he was fun to watch. Some of the guy are sooooo boring to watch and have the personality of a grub worm. If I was 23 and had $10MM I would be parting too. I can't blame the dude. Too much too soon.

Edited by rockinar, 03 May 2012 - 10:26 PM.

[Frankie Lob Wedge]

greendot1001, on 03 May 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

Skaffa77, on 03 May 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

kekoa, on 02 May 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Yikes

''My mom told me, 'Hey, there's a caddie that said he made $60,000 caddying at my club. The caddie stays at home and works four days a week. He's made $60,000. You've only made $30,000,' '' Kim said. ''I couldn't do anything but laugh.''

Sounds like something a Korean mom would say.    For those wondering...it's not a derrogatory statement...my mom is Korean and while she is a very caring person...she also has a tendency to be brutally honest.

Stuart - Did your mom ever say something that blunt to you?

I am korean myself and I have to say, such comments are very common in Asian families... However, I don't support those kind of comments because although it may be out of care, it seems to be more hurtful than helpful. Lots of parent and child relationships are ruined in such high standard, over pressuring asian families IMO. :/

I am not Asian or Korean but when I read it - I understood what it meant as well.  My heart sank and I felt terrible for Anthony.  

I hope he can get well and turn it around.  I worry the family dynamic and culture might make it even harder to recover.    The mother's comments were pretty devastating.

And for all the jerks posting nasty stuff - go out and try to win a picth and putt competition before you knock other people struggling.  

AK is young enough so hopefully he can get back on track.   I forget if it was last year or the year before where he was playing well at The (British) Open.

[PedronNiall]

Sounds like unfortunately he didn't take the time off that he needed to from the injuries. Not surprising as sometime it's really hard to be away from what you love to do, but sacrifices just have to be made. Hope he gets it back together.

[nmanoles3]

The part that makes me cringe is when he wouldn't want other people watching him practice. He's a pro for goodness sakes! Poor guy, I feel for him. He seemed like he was cleaning his act up a little bit before the string of injuries. But his PGA career isn't over, he's got too much raw talent. I've gotta think he'll be fine if he takes time to fully recover.

[DLiver]

I see a pattern with AK that has been happening for a few years. When he has a stretch of bad play, he does a round of interviews. He says he is going to get healthy/hit the gym/party less/practice more/rededicate himself/etc.etc.etc. What we really see is a guy with seemingly tons of talent circling the drain. I didn't used to like him because he was so arrogant, but now I kind of feel bad for him. It sure is tough to play any kind of decent golf when you are hurt, but this current stretch of bad play started well before this current injury. I hope he gets it together.

[gators78]

WD'ed the Wells, wrist.

[tElihu]

IMO, the only chance he has is to take time off and heal both mentally and physically.  Then come back when he's recovered, no matter how long it takes.

Right now he's just spinning his wheels.

[FDSouthPaw]

mandudebro, on 03 May 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:

FDSouthPaw, on 03 May 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

I've never got the impression he had everything in order mentally.  He might have a ton of injuries that are holding him back, but he wasn't going to cash in on his talent because his head wasn't in the right place.

That's kind of a leap based on the 'impression' you had, no?  A couple PGA Tour wins, a legendary Ryder Cup performance, wealth, fame...at what point has he cashed in on his talent enough to meet your standard?

Seems like the disdain for AK comes from a weird place for a lot of people.  This, despite the struggles the recent article has brought to the forefront.

Injuries in sports can be devastating and don't discriminate.  Hope he can get healthy and fight back to his prior form.

It might be a bit of a leap, but I would wager a guess that just about everyone who's followed the tour for the last few years would tell you he's underachieved given his talent and the opportunities he's had.  Everything you've listed is true, and he's certainly not going to go down as the biggest disappointment of all time, but if his attitude and work ethic had matched his talent, I don't think we'd be having this conversation.  

Disdain is probably a strong word.  Indifference to his struggle probably frames my opinion better.  I don't hate the guy, I just feel he's squandered opportunity and acted arrogantly.  Most people that get kicked out of casino's (especially those who are spending lots of money) aren't getting kicked out because they cussed in front of an old lady.  They're getting kicked out because they not only crossed the line, but turned around and gave the line a middle finger afterwards.  I generally steer clear of these people in my personal life, and I find it hard to pull for them as a fan.

That said, everyone likes a redemption story.  I'd have no trouble pulling for him if he righted his ship, got healed up, and started carrying himself like a man who gets paid lots of money to play a game he loves for a living.

[Lefty94]

Regarding his bag deal, perhaps he doesn't have one with Nike. I'm assuming if he did he would have one. My guess is at this point it's kind of like Duval. He plays their gear, they hook him up, but they aren't paying him to promote it. Also he had an RBC bag deal previously. In my mind that means that a bag deal is different than an equipment deal.

[Colby327]

He was really practicing off the range, hitting out from under the trees, to avoid embarrassment?!?  Wow. I didn't realize things were that bad for him.

[HateTheHighDraw]

Colby327, on 04 May 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

He was really practicing off the range, hitting out from under the trees, to avoid embarrassment?!?  Wow. I didn't realize things were that bad for him.

I don't get it.  If he has to go to those lengths, why participate in the tournament to begin with?  He obviously doesn't have the confidence to play tour golf right now.  He should just go back to his home course and grind until he's ready.

[mandudebro]

FDSouthPaw, on 04 May 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

mandudebro, on 03 May 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:

FDSouthPaw, on 03 May 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

I've never got the impression he had everything in order mentally.  He might have a ton of injuries that are holding him back, but he wasn't going to cash in on his talent because his head wasn't in the right place.

That's kind of a leap based on the 'impression' you had, no?  A couple PGA Tour wins, a legendary Ryder Cup performance, wealth, fame...at what point has he cashed in on his talent enough to meet your standard?

Seems like the disdain for AK comes from a weird place for a lot of people.  This, despite the struggles the recent article has brought to the forefront.

Injuries in sports can be devastating and don't discriminate.  Hope he can get healthy and fight back to his prior form.

It might be a bit of a leap, but I would wager a guess that just about everyone who's followed the tour for the last few years would tell you he's underachieved given his talent and the opportunities he's had.  Everything you've listed is true, and he's certainly not going to go down as the biggest disappointment of all time, but if his attitude and work ethic had matched his talent, I don't think we'd be having this conversation.  

Disdain is probably a strong word.  Indifference to his struggle probably frames my opinion better.  I don't hate the guy, I just feel he's squandered opportunity and acted arrogantly.  Most people that get kicked out of casino's (especially those who are spending lots of money) aren't getting kicked out because they cussed in front of an old lady.  They're getting kicked out because they not only crossed the line, but turned around and gave the line a middle finger afterwards.  I generally steer clear of these people in my personal life, and I find it hard to pull for them as a fan.

That said, everyone likes a redemption story.  I'd have no trouble pulling for him if he righted his ship, got healed up, and started carrying himself like a man who gets paid lots of money to play a game he loves for a living.

I think we're on the same page afterall.  Cheers.

[shootermcgavin2]

h0ss66, on 04 May 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

Colby327, on 04 May 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

He was really practicing off the range, hitting out from under the trees, to avoid embarrassment?!?  Wow. I didn't realize things were that bad for him.

I don't get it.  If he has to go to those lengths, why participate in the tournament to begin with?  He obviously doesn't have the confidence to play tour golf right now.  He should just go back to his home course and grind until he's ready.

probably bc he's still a competitor and feels the fire burning? just read this article and it's even more sad now in light of him WD again this wkend.

[masyankees]

I feel really bad for him after reading that.

I really like rooting for him and hope he takes some time to heal so he can start playing better

[masyankees]

Now he's going to undergo treatment for his left arm and right elbow pain and miss 4-5 months
http://tourreport.pg...ss-4-5-months/#

[shootermcgavin2]

incredibly disappointing, hope he can get that med exempt.

[Zach Heusser]

When Anthony was a teenager I was able to play and practice with him alot at PGA West.  He is to talented not to make it back!  
Good luck AK

[strungoutt1]

A very sad read indeed. I hope he can come back because he was so fun to watch.