starrman77, on 30 April 2012 - 02:36 PM, said:
Aithos, on 30 April 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:
Couple things: 1) most pros are good enough ballstrikers to play anything they want and hit any shot, amateurs aren't. 2) everyone's games are different, you don't need to hit the ball perfectly every time to play blades/players clubs. You just need to know your miss, to suggest "everyone" should play GI is as stupid as saying everyone should play blades. Stop it.
People seriously need to stop pointing to pros as justification for what they should play, it just makes them look bad. It's just like people thinking they need to play x stiff shaft when their game would be better off with stiff. Don't project your game on me, thanks...
Ok genius, What didn't you get about it's just an opinion. In America, everyone is untitled to one. If you don't like it, don't read it. Have a beer and chill. Stupid is as stupid writes. Stupid.
First of all, I think you need that beer and chill time. I'm not sure why you got all up in arms but calling me stupid isn't going to get you anywhere. Second, I advocate a very simple list of things, let me break them down:
1) everyone puts too much weight on equipment as a fix for a problem in their game, it's not a good way to play the game. Even pros tend to use what works and they are comfortable with, they don't change every year for a reason and it's one of the few *good* parallels that people miss.
2) basing equipment off a handicap is ridiculous without firsthand knowledge of every aspect of that players game. Everything else is an exercise in ignorance because there are no blanket solutions in golf. Even the most unforgiving blade in the world doesn't require that level of consistency to play well, people used to learn on blades all the time GI clubs are new even since I started in 1998. There comes a point where it isn't ballstriking losing you strokes and forgiveness comes with downsides, it isn't right for everyone. There is also no correlation between driver forgiveness and iron forgiveness, it's a different beast entirely and the results are wildly different because of the distance involved. A bad miss with a 3i will *never* be as bad as a bad miss with a driver. Pros play 460cc drivers because at their SS and distance a poor hit can lose them a tournament, amateurs play them because we suck and most people struggle with the driver (me included). However, I actually hit my 360cc Callaway Big Bertha from 2004 better than my R11. I wish I could get a 400cc tour driver with newer technology, I can't afford it..
3) how the pros strike the ball has very little to do with the game we are playing. Tiger woods could easily hit every shot with a GI iron, he plays blades because it works for his game and mental approach. Not all pros feel the same, thus they play different clubs. Why people assume the same *cant* be true of amateurs and claim you need to be a legendary ballstrikers to play blades is purely stupid and ignorant. Just as I said it would be stupid for me to say "everyone should play blades, it will make you a better ballstriker" No, it won't. Practice will make you a better ballstriker, lessons will make you a better ballstriker, those things will give you more GIR. It's highly unlikely a new set of irons will be the magical fix to shave strokes off your game unless you are playing something really poorly suited for *your* game.
You need to take a step back and understand what I'm getting at, these threads get stupid because everyone thinks about their own games and assumes everyone else should do the same. *MY* opinion doesn't tell you what you should do, why you think *YOU* know what I should do makes me laugh. But as you said "stupid is as stupid writes" ...
Oh, and for the record...I wasn't even responding to you. I hadn't read your post when I added mine, I just didn't feel the need to quote the other guy since it was more of a general statement than direct reply. But hey, get all threatened over the Internet, that's your right.