whats your takeaway?
Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:34 PM
Posted 24 April 2012 - 11:46 PM
I do this with all my clubs to be sure I don't get into an "all arms swing". When I hit a bad shot it's normally due to no turn of the shoulders. (3.7 index)
Edited by 596, 24 April 2012 - 11:47 PM.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:50 AM
Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:14 AM
Posted 25 April 2012 - 10:03 AM
Personally, my swing is dead if I start thinking about physical components of it, and in general (this is just my opinion), I don't think it's an athletic mindset to think about what starts an athletic movement.
I'd try getting away from the idea of thinking about what starts the swing. That way lies madness.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 10:32 AM
Yep, that happens to me from time to time, I get too flat when I turn. At some point I have to start thinking....UP. I do the same turn but make sure I pick UP the club as I go past the first 18". When the club is horizonal on the back swing I have to make sure it stayed in front of me and does not get behind me, which would result in a flat swing.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:13 PM
This is a good point. I had a huge swing flaw for many years because of the "turning my left shoulder under my chin" thought. I still do the same thing, BUT, have improved my posture - incorporated more bend at the hips to be more over the ball, which naturally forces my shoulders steeper. I am now able to use the same swing thought but don't swing around my body like I used to. It's still a work in progress though, not a quick fix. But starting with the shoulders helps me keep my hands quiet and keeps things connected for me.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:30 PM
I have two take aways. If I'm in my kosher mode, I tend to do it by hip and leg action, but when I'm not, I use the FILO-method, with a small alteration, where I use my shoulder turn to move the club back. In both swings, FIFO and FILO, I start down swinging with my thigs and hips before my hands are at the further most position from set-up.
When I have my FILO-days, I focus on keeping my hands on the "Hogan glass"-surface more than in my FIFO-days as on FIFO-days it is more or less unnecessary.
By the early forward motion of my lower body I tend to increase the upper x-factor in the beginning of down swing.
According, what A.G.Blade told about the shoulder turn-like back swing resulting a flat swing, I hope and wish, my swing is more flat than upright. The upright swing is so easy to go over the top and that is the one swing flaw I hate like plague.
The turn back should be more or less a rotation around your spine, not a bend over and turn combination.
Even if the best ball striker was "big Ben", You do not want to introduce Ben Dover in your take away.
Edited by Petter Player, 25 April 2012 - 03:38 PM.