11 replies to this topic

[A.G.Blade]

I've recently changed my swing and now start the club back with both hands, but maybe a little more left hand than right(Im a righty).  the club moves outside the target line and I try to pick the clubhead "up", and "out".  My weight seems to be mostly on my right side with the longer clubs and more 50 50 as the clubs get shorter.

[Vinny Nguyen]

My takeaway is all rotational.  My shoulders, arms, and hands are all rotating back as quick as my hips will turn me and once I get my full turn my club is in the position I want it to be.  From your description it sounds like your takeaway is more hands and arms oriented.  I find when my takeaway is like that I get too far inside and get very inconsistent with my downswing.  For me I let the club get in a natural position to wherever my arms and hands happen to be after my turn.  Definitely works better for me.

[596]

I have no idea what is "correct", but for me, the take away is all one piece, initiated with the left shoulder blade.  This "thought" allows me to have a nice low takeaway and get a nice big turn with my shoulders and hips.   I feel as though I'm hitting the ball with my left shoulder blade on the downswing.  Once the club is 18" back I think about nothing but hitting the ball with the shoulder blade.  You can't hit the ball this way without a nice turn.

I do this with all my clubs to be sure I don't get into an "all arms swing".  When I hit a bad shot it's normally due to no turn of the shoulders.  (3.7 index)

Edited by 596, 24 April 2012 - 11:47 PM.

[A.G.Blade]

interesting guys.  when I think of turning my shoulders, or a rotational type of takeaway my swing gets very flat and around with the club in a "heavy" position.  Maybe I could do it that way if I steepened my shoulder turn.

[davekzg]

at the minute mine feels like im taking it away on a line straight back from the ball for aslong as possible, this is the feel due to me sucking the club inside for so many years. i try and take the club away simultaneously with my arms and right hip turning back.

[ferrispgm]

I lean more towards TGM so I use my right arm for everything.  Tricky at first buy you can really hit some quality shots when you get the hang of it!

[TheCityGame]

I don't think about what starts my golf swing anymore than I think about what starts my foot moving when I walk. It just happens.

Personally, my swing is dead if I start thinking about physical components of it, and in general (this is just my opinion), I don't think it's an athletic mindset to think about what starts an athletic movement.

I'd try getting away from the idea of thinking about what starts the swing. That way lies madness.

[596]

A.G.Blade, on 25 April 2012 - 01:50 AM, said:

interesting guys.  when I think of turning my shoulders, or a rotational type of takeaway my swing gets very flat and around with the club in a "heavy" position.  Maybe I could do it that way if I steepened my shoulder turn.

Yep, that happens to me from time to time, I get too flat when I turn.  At some point I have to start thinking....UP.   I do the same turn but make sure I pick UP the club as I go past the first 18".  When the club is horizonal on the back swing I have to make sure it stayed in front of me and does not get behind me, which would result in a flat swing.

[Gator_Hater]

Left shoulder down, arms in across the chest...........

[Josh The Nosh]

Gator_Hater, on 25 April 2012 - 12:49 PM, said:

Left shoulder down, arms in across the chest...........

ooo ill have to try that seems simple and effective

[Puppetmaster]

A.G.Blade, on 25 April 2012 - 01:50 AM, said:

interesting guys.  when I think of turning my shoulders, or a rotational type of takeaway my swing gets very flat and around with the club in a "heavy" position.  Maybe I could do it that way if I steepened my shoulder turn.

This is a good point. I had a huge swing flaw for many years because of the "turning my left shoulder under my chin" thought. I still do the same thing, BUT, have improved my posture - incorporated more bend at the hips to be more over the ball, which naturally forces my shoulders steeper. I am now able to use the same swing thought but don't swing around my body like I used to. It's still a work in progress though, not a quick fix. But starting with the shoulders helps me keep my hands quiet and keeps things connected for me.

[Petter Player]

Vinny Nguyen, on 24 April 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

My takeaway is all rotational.  My shoulders, arms, and hands are all rotating back as quick as my hips will turn me and once I get my full turn my club is in the position I want it to be.  From your description it sounds like your takeaway is more hands and arms oriented.  I find when my takeaway is like that I get too far inside and get very inconsistent with my downswing.  For me I let the club get in a natural position to wherever my arms and hands happen to be after my turn.  Definitely works better for me.

I have two take aways. If I'm in my kosher mode, I tend to do it by hip and leg action, but when I'm not, I use the FILO-method, with a small alteration, where I use my shoulder turn to move the club back. In both swings, FIFO and FILO, I start down swinging with my thigs and hips before my hands are at the further most position from set-up.

When I have my FILO-days, I focus on keeping my hands on the "Hogan glass"-surface more than in my FIFO-days as on FIFO-days it is more or less unnecessary.

By the early forward motion of my lower body I tend to increase the upper x-factor in the beginning of down swing.

According, what A.G.Blade told about the shoulder turn-like back swing resulting a flat swing, I hope and wish, my swing is more flat than upright. The upright swing is so easy to go over the top and that is the one swing flaw I hate like plague.

The turn back should be more or less a rotation around your spine, not a bend over and turn combination.

Even if the best ball striker was "big Ben",  You do not want to introduce Ben Dover in your take away.

Edited by Petter Player, 25 April 2012 - 03:38 PM.