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Learing golf, following the Slicefixer way


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Posted 23 April 2012 - 11:24 AM

The most revealing second in my golf life was the first time I saw  Slicefixer's video dissecting the differences between the releases back  in 2010. Which led down the path to the 9-3, a lot of chats with Russc,  and finally the trip to see Geoff Jones.  

Geoff Jones as a  person is a cocktail created by a stern  upbringing of a southern lawmen father, and a strong distaste for not  winning it all in competitive golf. This blend of Hogan like work ethic  mixed with a curiosity to seek out the secret, he looked for the truth  through video study much like the X and O's in present day NFL, Jon  Gruden style. But be careful about bringing up unsubstantiated golf  theories, as you will be met by a cold glare that can cut down forests  faster than any chainsaw crew. While his personality might be a bit  brash for the commentating styles on the Golf Channel, but the truth is  what distinguish the Slicefixer from any others in Golf instruction. And  he will back it up, in visual evidence and on the range.

Slicefixer golf facility is a utilitarian driven teaching bay where  the golf instruction ticks more reliable than an atomic watch. Rain or  shine this place echoes with the thumps of ball striking. While some of  his training methods are thrown together more like Larry the Cable Guy  than the surgical refinement of a Mercedes Benz, they are highly  functional, and they have 1 singular focused goal in mind. You will  learn what the correct golf swing looks and feels, if you put in the  effort.
  
Slicefixer's instructions starts with a step by step of checklist  forged through years of teaching and revelations from visual  stimulation. First he will film your swings from several angles, then on  to the Grip, posture, back swing. Each with a purpose, laid out on the  surgical table and scrutinized to within 1/2 a degree of angles. Then its  on to a film study session and explanations of why certain things appear  the way they do but in reality it's the polar opposite. Followed by  range session where he explains each lesson by illustrating  feel and  drills to ingrain it. But it does not feel like a system, this is the  part that is difficult  to explain, lets just say the knowledge you walk  away with enforces the Slicefixer ideas with a clarity like no other  classroom. This is the Slicefixer way, you will learn the road map to  get there. And it will take a tremendous amount of work, which he will  draw out in a military training style regiment.
      
Conclusion, walking away from this place brings a empty sadness.  It's like leaving the golf meca after the pilgrimage, while you have  experienced it, it's hard to be without. Like stopping at just one strip  of thick crunchy slice of country bacon. The mechanics, work ethic,  mental approach enforced at every bullet point with his trademark  terms(Scrape and rake, Busting it). The only focus the Slicefixer will  out line for you is brutally simple, Your body will be honed in to a  Hardcore Golf Machine if you can follow the way. Albert Einstein once  said "Information in not knowledge", and that's the secret of the  Slicefixer method. Intelligent and focused workout along with the  knowledge is the key to becoming a great golfer.

This is the accelerated course in golf, skipping all the local golf  instructor BS and regurgitated decade old golf digest article tips.  After the 3 day golf buffet with Geoff Jones, I am focused, armed and  now ready to start my own golf journey.

Edited by Timanator, 23 April 2012 - 12:43 PM.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 11:28 AM

Pictures from let and right side of the bay, and the glove

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 11:46 AM

Epic stuff.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 11:54 AM

Timanator,

Who did you hire to write this ? I might have some work for him :crazy:
Excellent write-up and Welcome to the gang my friend.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:15 PM

Timanator...Outstanding read!  I just missed seeing you there by one day.

I made my first trip to see Geoff this past weekend and could not have stated my experience with "The Man" any better.


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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:18 PM

Great post. You touched on something that I had forgotten about. The wistfulness as you drive away. There is a purity of purpose down that little gravel road and you feel sad when you turn your back to it. I felt torn between wanting everyone to know about the place and Geoff and wanting no one to know about it. Going there is deeply enjoyable.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:24 PM

View PostPocwave, on 23 April 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

Great post. You touched on something that I had forgotten about. The wistfulness as you drive away. There is a purity of purpose down that little gravel road and you feel sad when you turn your back to it. I felt torn between wanting everyone to know about the place and Geoff and wanting no one to know about it. Going there is deeply enjoyable.
Bart

I am the opposite...i go in there, work my a** off. And then i am excited to leave...so i can try all these swing changes out on a course/range.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:28 PM

Great read.

This brings back memories. I'm sad.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:29 PM

View Postverderraul, on 23 April 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:


I am the opposite...i go in there, work my a** off. And then i am excited to leave...so i can try all these swing changes out on a course/range.

But I thought you are only allowed to hit half gap wedges for like 2 years.  You'll never learn the game playing like that!

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:35 PM

View PostCallawayLefty, on 23 April 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

View Postverderraul, on 23 April 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:


I am the opposite...i go in there, work my a** off. And then i am excited to leave...so i can try all these swing changes out on a course/range.

But I thought you are only allowed to hit half gap wedges for like 2 years.  You'll never learn the game playing like that!

:russian_roulette:

I think someone made that up to keep hacks from clogging geoffs calendar.


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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

View PostCallawayLefty, on 23 April 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

View Postverderraul, on 23 April 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

I am the opposite...i go in there, work my a** off. And then i am excited to leave...so i can try all these swing changes out on a course/range.

But I thought you are only allowed to hit half gap wedges for like 2 years.  You'll never learn the game playing like that!

:russian_roulette:


I worked the wedge for a day and half then on to the driver with the"Bust it" move. Did not get that move down, yet, but I am going to get there.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:44 PM

View PostTimanator, on 23 April 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

View PostCallawayLefty, on 23 April 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

View Postverderraul, on 23 April 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

I am the opposite...i go in there, work my a** off. And then i am excited to leave...so i can try all these swing changes out on a course/range.

But I thought you are only allowed to hit half gap wedges for like 2 years.  You'll never learn the game playing like that!

:russian_roulette:


I worked the wedge for a day and half then on to the driver with the"Bust it" move. Did not get that move down, yet, but I am going to get there.

You will for sure.  I was just messing around with my old buddy vederraul.  4 time visitor myself.  Cannot remember the last time I worked true 9 to 3s.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:14 PM

How long do you project it will take to fully grasp the swing in your irons and woods?  2 years as stated in previous posts?

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:19 PM

View Postrocker40, on 23 April 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

How long do you project it will take to fully grasp the swing in your irons and woods?  2 years as stated in previous posts?

I used my 4 wood and hybrids along with all clubs in the bag on the course yesterday. I'm not sure about the 2 year time frame?
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:27 PM

So evaluating what you knew before and after, how flawed was your concept of the golf swing prior to your visit?


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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:28 PM

All: the 2 year thing is a joke...

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:38 PM

excellent ..You obviously have some professional writing experience
Remember though one drink of the koolaid is never enough

Edited by russc, 23 April 2012 - 01:40 PM.


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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:53 PM

View Postdtrance, on 23 April 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

So evaluating what you knew before and after, how flawed was your concept of the golf swing prior to your visit?

Please remember I had tons of help from Russc prior to visiting. He was evaluating my videos monthly and giving me advice on drills.

I was off in 2 key areas, one of which Russc pointed out but I was not able to resolve with his drills. The grip was off in where and why certain things had to be that way, Also my back swing had a catastrophic sequencing error. Now I feel automatic in those areas, and need to ingrain the new downswing feel which should take me about 6 month to a year  if I work hard enough.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:59 PM

View PostTimanator, on 23 April 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

View PostCallawayLefty, on 23 April 2012 - 12:29 PM, said:

View Postverderraul, on 23 April 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

I am the opposite...i go in there, work my a** off. And then i am excited to leave...so i can try all these swing changes out on a course/range.

But I thought you are only allowed to hit half gap wedges for like 2 years.  You'll never learn the game playing like that!

:russian_roulette:


I worked the wedge for a day and half then on to the driver with the"Bust it" move. Did not get that move down, yet, but I am going to get there.

What is the "Bust it" move being referred to?

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 10:30 PM

View PostSeawhales, on 23 April 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

]

What is the "Bust it" move being referred to?

Bust it is  turn with the handle around the corner.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 02:51 PM

I'm taking my son there this Friday....Can't wait!

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 03:33 PM

View PostLukespal, on 24 April 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

I'm taking my son there this Friday....Can't wait!

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Read bp5031's post # 181 about his daughter ,a Slicefixer student   on the topic "big muscle swing"

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:33 PM

Russc i heard she just won her regional tournament.
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Posted 24 April 2012 - 04:51 PM

View Postrussc, on 24 April 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

View PostLukespal, on 24 April 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

I'm taking my son there this Friday....Can't wait!

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Read bp5031's post # 181 about his daughter ,a Slicefixer student   on the topic "big muscle swing"


Did you REALLY just point someone into that thread? You, sir, are a cruel, sadistic man.

Lol. J/k....sorta. :)

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:16 PM

View PostDeadpool_25, on 24 April 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

View Postrussc, on 24 April 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

View PostLukespal, on 24 April 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

I'm taking my son there this Friday....Can't wait!

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Read bp5031's post # 181 about his daughter ,a Slicefixer student   on the topic "big muscle swing"


Did you REALLY just point someone into that thread? You, sir, are a cruel, sadistic man.

Lol. J/k....sorta. :)

haha I thought the same thing, although that post about the daughter smoking those CF releasing fools into the last green was a good read.  Shouldn't say that though, they're both valid swing types and so on...Posted Image

I'm headed to texarkana in june, getting impatient.  I have a lot of gaps in knowledge that need to be filled, sounds like I committed to the right guy.  Good write up!!!

Edited by tofur99, 24 April 2012 - 05:18 PM.


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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:30 PM

View PostDeadpool_25, on 24 April 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

View Postrussc, on 24 April 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

View PostLukespal, on 24 April 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

I'm taking my son there this Friday....Can't wait!

Lukespal
Read bp5031's post # 181 about his daughter ,a Slicefixer student   on the topic "big muscle swing"


Did you REALLY just point someone into that thread? You, sir, are a cruel, sadistic man.

Lol. J/k....sorta. :)

You are underexaggeratingPosted Image After that experience  I will only respond to references about the Slicefixer swing along with video analysis of swings.The ironic thing is it became much worse after my early posts.What really upset me was the fact that it reinforced Hognafan924's reluctance to post.Hoganfan 924 along with TEConnor are easily the most knowlegeable posters on the Slicefixer swing.Hoganfan 924 is  a walking encyclopedia on golf technique as a whole.

Edited by russc, 24 April 2012 - 05:38 PM.


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Posted 24 April 2012 - 05:40 PM

View Postrussc, on 24 April 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:




Lukespal
Read bp5031's post # 181 about his daughter ,a Slicefixer student   on the topic "big muscle swing"



Did you REALLY just point someone into that thread? You, sir, are a cruel, sadistic man.

Lol. J/k....sorta. :)



You are underexaggeratingPosted Image After that experience  I will only respond to references about the Slicefixer swing along with video analysis of swings.The ironic thing is it became much worse after my early posts.What really upset me was the fact that it reinforced Hognafan924's reluctance to post.Hoganfan 924 along with TEConnor are easily the most knowlegeable postes on the Slicefixer swing.Hoganfan 924 is  a walking encyclopedia on golf technique as a whole.

There is tonnes of knowledge on that thread. It going sour is a whole different story.

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:37 PM

Great post man.


For those familiar with Geoff's teachings, what is the premise of his swing approach?

Meaning, what are the key components he teaches?



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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:03 PM

Quite funny how many people think that this swing takes years to get down. I'd broken 80 once in my life prior to visiting him (though I'd shot lots of 36-39s in HS matches). 6 weeks afterwords, I shoot 75 my first time back on the course, and rarely ventured back in to the 80s. 4 months afterwords, I'm in a Florida Junior Tour event, -3 through 13 holes in 30 MPH wind when an extremely unfortunate chain of events leads to an 8 on a par 5 and leaves me coming in with a tournament 73 on a course listed 7050/74.2 playing 7300+/~75 because of the wind.

I relegated myself to purely 9-3s for about 3 weeks immediately after leaving Geoff's, but ever since then the 9-3 has simply been a part of practice rather than the practice itself. It's tough in the beginning but once you put in that work you get to play around all you'd like as long as you pay attention to what you're doing :)

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Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:14 PM

View Postdanattherock, on 24 April 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

Great post man.


For those familiar with Geoff's teachings, what is the premise of his swing approach?

Meaning, what are the key components he teaches?



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"Windup around a slightly tilted spine going back and unwind around a tilted spine going down ,after establishing your left pivot point over your left heel/ankle.On the downswing there should be no manipulation by the hands or wrists since the the club will square up naturally as a result of your left turning pivot."

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