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Posted 23 April 2012 - 11:51 AM

View PostPudgelewis, on 23 April 2012 - 11:42 AM, said:

Why in the world do people go through this much trouble and cause such headaches just because they don't want to live up to their end of the deal?  If you don't want something you purchased, just re-sell it and move on. No need to be a donkey and cause problems for other people.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 11:57 AM

Judging from his name his screen name he's probably 18 and just immature (not an excuse). Maybe we should PM him and let him tell his side of the story.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:40 PM

View PostPudgelewis, on 23 April 2012 - 11:42 AM, said:

Why in the world do people go through this much trouble and cause such headaches just because they don't want to live up to their end of the deal?  If you don't want something you purchased, just re-sell it and move on. No need to be a donkey and cause problems for other people.

+1  

I've done this myself multiple times.  I'll buy something, and then by something very similar (hybrids have been my bane lately) before the first has even shipped and I'll sell the repeat while usually taking a little hit, thats par for the course when ho'ing clubs.

But he doesn't have much to lose, member 130,000, 2 posts, 3 feedback.  I've been an active member on this board for the better part of 7 years, try to have insightful/funny posts and be some type of productive forum member, until stuff like this happens.  Oh well.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:46 PM

jkrew1994

Now no one has to go look for his name..

I won't be dealing with this guy.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:47 PM

As someone who usually has to wait 10 days to two weeks for stuff to arrive I am simply amazed that someone would file a paypal dispute over this.

If you buy something and absolutely need it by a certain date then you better be prepared to pay the higher shipping cost or STFU.


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Posted 23 April 2012 - 12:53 PM

View PostPudgelewis, on 23 April 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

Judging from his name his screen name he's probably 18 and just immature (not an excuse). Maybe we should PM him and let him tell his side of the story.

i'd like to hear his side of the story too however, he must have had unreal expectations on when the clubs would arrive and then changed his tune about the club faces being not represented accurately to add to his PayPal claim, imo.

would love to hear more but this is not good for me - i was hoping BST was the place to have transactions without the headaches of PayPal and or Craigslist.   kind of a bummer as i am now reluctant to sell here too.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:20 PM

Well Paypal sided with the buyer.  

I called Paypal to see what the deal was and talked with a customer service person and they said that basically they side with the buyer 99% of the time unless I have absolute evidence.  So this goes down in the books for me.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:31 PM

View PostJ-Tizzle, on 23 April 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

Well Paypal sided with the buyer.  

I called Paypal to see what the deal was and talked with a customer service person and they said that basically they side with the buyer 99% of the time unless I have absolute evidence.  So this goes down in the books for me.

Anyone want to buy a wedge set???

Well you got his address now.. Send him a "surprise."

I'm only kidding, of course. Sorry it didn't work out man. I'm glad I haven't ran into any of these sorts of problems myself.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:32 PM

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:33 PM

My feedback from him:

promised to ship next day (said I'd try to ship next day but no promises), I needed the clubs for a member guest (mad he didn't get), he didnt ship for 4 days(Monday, Tuesday=1, Wed = 2, Thursday = 3, then, during the 4 days, was completely unresponsive to mulitiple emails and attempts to contact (Just an incorrect statement). AWFUL SELLER (I disagree) STAY AWAY (Please don't! :))!  jkrxxxxxx (Buyer)  2012-04-23 15:25:16    

He wanted the clubs for the weekend and is mad he didn't get them, thus the problem.  Does anyone know if this feedback can be disputed on here to where the MODs can remove, as not to tarnish my feedback due to the subject moron above??

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:36 PM

click the report button next to the feedback and explain your side to the mods
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:39 PM

View PostStinger82, on 23 April 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

click the report button next to the feedback and explain your side to the mods

Thanks I saw that right after I typed it on here.  I'd like to send them all the PM's I have had with him to show the dates that information was parlayed between us.  

I'm thinking I'll close this topic and leave it for feedback on him, lol.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:41 PM

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View PostJ-Tizzle, on 23 April 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

My feedback from him:

promised to ship next day (said I'd try to ship next day but no promises), I needed the clubs for a member guest (mad he didn't get), he didnt ship for 4 days(Monday, Tuesday=1, Wed = 2, Thursday = 3, then, during the 4 days, was completely unresponsive to mulitiple emails and attempts to contact (Just an incorrect statement). AWFUL SELLER (I disagree) STAY AWAY (Please don't! :))!  jkrxxxxxx (Buyer)  2012-04-23 15:25:16    

He wanted the clubs for the weekend and is mad he didn't get them, thus the problem.  Does anyone know if this feedback can be disputed on here to where the MODs can remove, as not to tarnish my feedback due to the subject moron above??

How much time past between payment and shipping?

Please read earlier, he paid on Monday and I shipped as early as I could on Thrusday.  I have to take my lunch breaks at work to drive to the nearest post office to ship so I don't ship every day but usually every couple of days.  I said I'd TRY to get them out by the middle of the week, but wasn't able, had to actually have my roommate ship them out Thrusday AM due to craziness at work, and I told him on Thursday they got shipped.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:42 PM

The mods can look at all of the pms I am sure...you should post the pm convo here to
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:45 PM

View PostFourmyle of Ceres, on 23 April 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

He may be overreacting but paying for something on a Monday and expecting it to come in Friday or Saturday's mail is not an unreasonable expectation at all. He just did not take your "try to" and "hopefully" at face value and figured he'd get them for the weekend.

If I were him I'd keep the clubs and just figure that's what I get for expecting guaranteed delivery from a classified ad.

OTOH if I were you I'd back off at this point and cut my losses.

Can't see any winner or loser here but you did let him down, you gotta admit.

That's my thought too.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 01:57 PM

In the future, I would always specify the handling time and stick to what you quote the latest shipping date will be (i.e. two business days). Trying and doing are different things.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:09 PM

View PostBuzzkill, on 23 April 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

View PostFourmyle of Ceres, on 23 April 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

He may be overreacting but paying for something on a Monday and expecting it to come in Friday or Saturday's mail is not an unreasonable expectation at all. He just did not take your "try to" and "hopefully" at face value and figured he'd get them for the weekend.

If I were him I'd keep the clubs and just figure that's what I get for expecting guaranteed delivery from a classified ad.

OTOH if I were you I'd back off at this point and cut my losses.

Can't see any winner or loser here but you did let him down, you gotta admit.

That's my thought too.

I will agree, I personally would have liked to have gotten them shipped out ealier, but leaving work to ship was not an option for a couple of days (and when I realized I wouldn't be able to get them out, I had my roommate ship).  So while I'm in the same boat (I like to hope people can usually get stuff shipeed out within 2-3 business days, probably don't have them with them right now, gotta go home and box em up, etc), I don't jump the gun and file claims on items unreceived, and then change the dispute saying they're not in the condition as advertised.

I could post the entire conversation, but I put it in a word document, edited out the pictures and its over 11 pages long, lol.

thevaporz: I had done that in the sale ad (basically saying I'd ship every other day) but I didn't outline into the next week when these were bought.  I guess I should try to outline.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:15 PM

If someone is gonna file a pp claim because it took a couple extra days to ship then they have issues, unless something was agreed upon ahead of time. I have had the same thing happen as the OP, i work a TON of hours and I work 14 days straight so I dont get alot of time to ship until my week off. My 2 yr old daughter has more patience than some of the guys here do!!
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:17 PM

I agree that the guy is overreacting by filing a dispute. I like ebay for leaving neutral feedback in instances such as this one and I would just resell the clubs myself. No need to file a dispute and leave negative feedback. He is abusing the system IMO.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:23 PM

In the end he doesn't need a reason. That's the advantage of buying with PayPal. Same as any merchant who accepts credit cards, the CC company will virtually always reverse the charges at the buyer's request.

He thought he was buying a set of wedges to use that weekend. You thought you were selling a set of wedges whenever it was convenient to send them. Basic miscommunication, which unfortunately means he gets his money back via PayPal. It's not a matter of who was reasonable or unreasonable, it only matters who's on the pointy end of the stick.

That's what I was saying earlier. Sometimes you can't win, you can only choose when to cut your losses and move on. Sounds like it's time.


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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:27 PM

As we say here at work, thats not "in the spirit" of what the BST is for.  I don't run a club rental business...
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:39 PM

first of all

i told you i needed the wedges for a member guest on friday

you said no problem ill take an early lunch and ship them tomorrow.  they should have shipped 4/17 on tuesday and yes they would have made it by friday

HOWEVER,

i repeatedly attempted to contact you in regards to if and when they were shipped, you failed to respond to MULTIPLE messages.

for 5 days sent you messages trying to procure some type of information as to the whereabouts of the clubs.  YOU DIDNT RESPOND

And you didnt respond bc you knew that YOU FELL SHORT OF THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT.

I will upload pictures of the clubfaces for all to see,

ADVERTISED CONDITION:
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ACTUAL CONDITION:
IMG_06301.JPG

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you be the judge

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:40 PM

QUITE CLEARLY NOT THE SAME CLUBFACES

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:41 PM

View Postbaseballfrk8998, on 23 April 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

jkrew1994

Now no one has to go look for his name..

I won't be dealing with this guy.

TRY looking at the pictures before judging from a third party perscpective

YOU TELL ME IF YOU WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED THEM?

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:42 PM

I'm not going to have this become our arguement out in front of everyone and post where I said I would TRY to get them shipped.  I cannot guarantee that I can ship certain days, once again, its the pain of the job that allows me to buy the clubs.

I can tell this will get nasty so I will just lock the topic.  Here is the guy fellas, block him if you wish.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:43 PM

View PostStinger82, on 23 April 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

If someone is gonna file a pp claim because it took a couple extra days to ship then they have issues, unless something was agreed upon ahead of time. I have had the same thing happen as the OP, i work a TON of hours and I work 14 days straight so I dont get alot of time to ship until my week off. My 2 yr old daughter has more patience than some of the guys here do!!

Completely right.  I can see the buyer being annoyed that it shipped a little slow, but to file a PP claim?  Thats just stupid.

BTW, where is this guy?  Does he know there is a thread about this?
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:45 PM

He's right above ya RJ.

Mods please close, Paypal has made their decision, and I was just wanting other input from members if I was in the wrong.  Now that the buyer has joined the arugment, this will just become the 4 paage of PM's we've sent saying that I lied and cheated and switched faces on the wedges and propbably hit his dog with my car when he was 12.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:48 PM

LOOK AT THE CONDITION OF THE CLUBFACES

CUT AND DRY

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:50 PM

View PostRJRJRJ, on 23 April 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

View PostStinger82, on 23 April 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

If someone is gonna file a pp claim because it took a couple extra days to ship then they have issues, unless something was agreed upon ahead of time. I have had the same thing happen as the OP, i work a TON of hours and I work 14 days straight so I dont get alot of time to ship until my week off. My 2 yr old daughter has more patience than some of the guys here do!!

Completely right.  I can see the buyer being annoyed that it shipped a little slow, but to file a PP claim?  Thats just stupid.

BTW, where is this guy?  Does he know there is a thread about this?

LOOK AT THE PICS OF THE CLUBS


shipping problems aside, those arent the same gear!

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:50 PM

View PostJ-Tizzle, on 23 April 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

He's right above ya RJ.

Mods please close, Paypal has made their decision, and I was just wanting other input from members if I was in the wrong.  Now that the buyer has joined the arugment, this will just become the 4 paage of PM's we've sent saying that I lied and cheated and switched faces on the wedges and propbably hit his dog with my car when he was 12.

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its quite obvious


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