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[Nej1140]

Ive been slicing alot and need some help! It's pretty hard to play when I only hit it 175 and it's way on the right. All help is appreciated!

[Joe85]

Looks like you might be cutting across it a bit. Try hitting some punch shots and try to play with a bit more feel. Also, your club in that vid looks like it might be a tad long for you. Hope someone else can help you but that's all I got.

[MonteScheinblum]

Nej1140, on 08 April 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Ive been slicing alot and need some help! It's pretty hard to play when I only hit it 175 and it's way on the right. All help is appreciated!

More lateral hip movement while keeping the upper body back.

[Nej1140]

Can you elaborate a little more please.

[MonteScheinblum]

Nej1140, on 08 April 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

Can you elaborate a little more please.

To start the downswing, your hips need to shift the weight to the left side by moving to the target, while the upper body stays back.  This should initiate the downswing.



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[Lefthook]

Nej,

You have a very weak grip. That's the first cause of your slice.

The two v's between thumb and palm should point towards your right shoulder. And that should be when you address the ball with the hands either forward of the club head or right above it (seen face on). With your grip and a healthy down swing, the club face will be wide open at impact and a slice will be the result.

There may be other issues that prevents you from hitting a draw as well, but your whole swing is likely to change when you get a proper grip. Therefore it is better to fix the grip first and see how everything evolves than to try to change 5 things at the same time.

[Nej1140]

Lefthook, on 08 April 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

Nej,

You have a very weak grip. That's the first cause of your slice.

The two v's between thumb and palm should point towards your right shoulder. And that should be when you address the ball with the hands either forward of the club head or right above it (seen face on). With your grip and a healthy down swing, the club face will be wide open at impact and a slice will be the result.

There may be other issues that prevents you from hitting a draw as well, but your whole swing is likely to change when you get a proper grip. Therefore it is better to fix the grip first and see how everything evolves than to try to change 5 things at the same time.

Thank you! I will for sure try this tommorow!
Im going to take a pic and see what you guys think now


Hows this look?

Edited by Nej1140, 08 April 2012 - 09:09 PM.

[Joe85]

My friend, do you know how to hit a draw? If you know how to hit a draw go out and get a bucket and work the draw and that will at least help somewhat.

[Lefthook]

Nej1140, on 08 April 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

Thank you! I will for sure try this tommorow!
Im going to take a pic and see what you guys think now


Hows this look?

This looks a lot better. I think you could go even a tad stronger with your right hand. Seeing 3-4 knuckles is a good start.

While we're at it - it looks like you're holding the club too much in your hands (as opposed to fingers). Especially with your right hand, but perhaps with your left as well.

Also, you might benefit from an overlap (Vardon) grip, since this will make it easier to put the club more in your right fingers and less in the palm of your right hand.


I recommend that you check your own grip against the grip described in Encyclopedia Texarcana for a more detailed description. http://www.golfwrx.c...ttach_id=821674

[Nej1140]

Nope, if i knew i wouldnt be slicing as bad

[GolfOCD]

Couple of things.  First you are definitely coming "Over the Top" and cutting across the ball which is causing you to slice.  You need to work on delivering the ball more from the inside.  Also, if you really think about thrusting your right elbow in to your side, your hips will "fire" more as they work to get out of the way of your swing.

For example, if you look at your hands on the backswing, they intersect your body somewhere right above your belly-button, but on the down swing, they intersect your body just below your neck.  You need to drop the club back on to plane.  A drill you can use is the towel under the arm (or clubhead cover, or whatever).  You can also put a cardboard box (a box that irons come in works great) outside the ball and make sure you don't hit it (use cardboard, it is forgiving and will not destroy your clubs, you can also use a fairly straight swim noodle).

Also, remember if that if you go to a strong grip as recommended, then you will need some cupping of your wrists at the top.

Finally, probably the best thing to do is just do quarter swings until you get those going straight or drawing.  Then increase the backswing as you get those going well.

Ok, just watched the video again.  Your head moves around too much also.  Notice that in your Front On view, at the top of your backswing, your nose and eyes are pointing behind the ball.  Work to keep those straight down on the ball.  Your "Reverse C" is killing you.  Watch a slow-mo video of Rory and watch how he buries his chin in his arms on this backswing to keep his head from doing what you are doing.

Things you are doing correctly
1) Keeping the club head outside of your hands on the backswing
2) Your arms are in line with your shoulders on the backswing
3) You don't go past the line at the top
4) Your weigh transfer is good
5) you hinge the club well

Just work on dropping the club back on plane on the downswing and keeping your head still, that will help tremendously!  You can also try the "Reverse Figure 8" drill, which is what Jim Furyk does, I think.

In golf, to fix something, you have to do the extreme opposite of it until you get that feel.  So, since you come over the top, try to come as far from inside as you can.  Like you are trying to hit the ball to right field.  The more balls you actually can hit to right field, the more you'll be on your way to delivering the club from the inside.

But, the best advice I can give you is GO GET LESSONS!! (preferably from a PGA Class A Teacher)  It kills me how much ppl will spend on golf and never drop the $$ to take a lesson.

GolfOCD

[Lefthook]

Nej1140, on 08 April 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:

Nope, if i knew i wouldnt be slicing as bad

Three things to consider:

*Target line - the line that points at your target
*Club head path - the path that the club head travels - and we're especially interested in the part of it that occurs around impact. The divots will tell a lot of where your club head path is aimed.
*Club face orientation at impact - where your club face is aimed when you hit the ball.

If you can return to impact with a club face that is pointing slightly to the right of the target, and a swing path that is pointing even further to the right, you will hit a draw that starts to the right of the target and turns towards the target, and perhaps even crosses the target line. If you've ever played some soccer and know how to hit a curved ball.... the same principle applies to golf, basically.

With a very weak grip, it is very difficult to return to the ball with a club face that is pointing left of the club head path at impact.

[Joe85]

Nej1140, on 08 April 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:

Nope, if i knew i wouldnt be slicing as bad

It's not that hard. Actually, I can snap hook it from time to time trying to really really work the ball right to left, but I've been known to work good here and there.

I know it's easier said than done but...put your left foot a bit more forward and think of really turning the clubhead/ball over to your left and in due time you will be working it (whether extreme [hook] or just nice draw isn't the point) and on doglegs to the left it can still help and it of course will help with your slicing.

GolfOCD, on 08 April 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

Couple of things.  First you are definitely coming "Over the Top" and cutting across the ball which is causing you to slice.  You need to work on delivering the ball more from the inside.  Also, if you really think about thrusting your right elbow in to your side, your hips will "fire" more as they work to get out of the way of your swing.

For example, if you look at your hands on the backswing, they intersect your body somewhere right above your belly-button, but on the down swing, they intersect your body just below your neck.  You need to drop the club back on to plane.  A drill you can use is the towel under the arm (or clubhead cover, or whatever).  You can also put a cardboard box (a box that irons come in works great) outside the ball and make sure you don't hit it (use cardboard, it is forgiving and will not destroy your clubs, you can also use a fairly straight swim noodle).

Also, remember if that if you go to a strong grip as recommended, then you will need some cupping of your wrists at the top.

Finally, probably the best thing to do is just do quarter swings until you get those going straight or drawing.  Then increase the backswing as you get those going well.

Ok, just watched the video again.  Your head moves around too much also.  Notice that in your Front On view, at the top of your backswing, your nose and eyes are pointing behind the ball.  Work to keep those straight down on the ball.  Your "Reverse C" is killing you.  Watch a slow-mo video of Rory and watch how he buries his chin in his arms on this backswing to keep his head from doing what you are doing.

Things you are doing correctly
1) Keeping the club head outside of your hands on the backswing
2) Your arms are in line with your shoulders on the backswing
3) You don't go past the line at the top
4) Your weigh transfer is good
5) you hinge the club well

Just work on dropping the club back on plane on the downswing and keeping your head still, that will help tremendously!  You can also try the "Reverse Figure 8" drill, which is what Jim Furyk does, I think.

In golf, to fix something, you have to do the extreme opposite of it until you get that feel.  So, since you come over the top, try to come as far from inside as you can.  Like you are trying to hit the ball to right field.  The more balls you actually can hit to right field, the more you'll be on your way to delivering the club from the inside.

But, the best advice I can give you is GO GET LESSONS!! (preferably from a PGA Class A Teacher)  It kills me how much ppl will spend on golf and never drop the $ to take a lesson.

GolfOCD

Jim Sowerwine has a contraption called the "Inside Approach" which I had but sold because I was really hard up for money. It's a good tool to use to help you with the slice.

Seriously, look into it. On this forum I think someone also might have figured out a way to make a similar contraption from home items.

Seriously, I thought it was a good contraption compared to others.

Check some of the links or even eBay and check here on the threads - there is a guy here (I think) that made one from home items.

https://www.google.c...iw=1024&bih=673

[HoldTheLag]

Monte's advice is good advice. Just keep it in the back of your mind as you embark on your quest to straighten that which resists straightening. Maybe someday it will jump back out at you and fit the last piece of the puzzle.

[Nej1140]

Thanks everyone! I'm appreciate everyone's posts!