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[Playaway]

wobgon, on 09 April 2012 - 01:15 PM, said:

Playaway, on 09 April 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

So you want this thing so bad you try as hard as you can and you fail.

Then some folks stick a mic in your face and ask you to explain why you failed.

You can take the "normal" route and just say "I could have made more putts or hit more fairways" but you really just want to be left alone.

So you start working the media a bit.  I think he just does not like to lose and wants to be done with it.  

Hey, my picks didn't work out and I don't want to think about it, certainly do not want to "explain" why I didn't pick Bubba.  Explain why I didn't think Bubba had the gizzard to play the last nine holes without barfing on his eccos.

Just leave the guy alone.  He is a great player and does not like to lose.  Similar to Tiger's interviews after getting thumped.  He is a pr*ck.  

Sergio handles it different than Tiger.  He goes the facetious route.  And the media makes something of it.  Spaniards are emotional.  News flash.

Kind of like You left Arnie alone when he made a comment about Rory !!!!

Who did Sergio make a comment about??

[wobgon]

Playaway, on 10 April 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

wobgon, on 09 April 2012 - 01:15 PM, said:

Playaway, on 09 April 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

So you want this thing so bad you try as hard as you can and you fail.

Then some folks stick a mic in your face and ask you to explain why you failed.

You can take the "normal" route and just say "I could have made more putts or hit more fairways" but you really just want to be left alone.

So you start working the media a bit.  I think he just does not like to lose and wants to be done with it.  

Hey, my picks didn't work out and I don't want to think about it, certainly do not want to "explain" why I didn't pick Bubba.  Explain why I didn't think Bubba had the gizzard to play the last nine holes without barfing on his eccos.

Just leave the guy alone.  He is a great player and does not like to lose.  Similar to Tiger's interviews after getting thumped.  He is a pr*ck.  

Sergio handles it different than Tiger.  He goes the facetious route.  And the media makes something of it.  Spaniards are emotional.  News flash.

Kind of like You left Arnie alone when he made a comment about Rory !!!!

Who did Sergio make a comment about??

Himself !!

[playmuch]

Still makes 20 million a year. Not bad for never winning a major. I'd take that.

[golfpros1]

Sergio will probably not win a major.  Sorry.  All the Ryder Cup fist pumping aside, he simply can't putt for 4 days.  He's another idiot that changed their golf swings with the idea they would improve their games, and the short game went to heck.  His putting is barely good enough to call streaky.  I'd take his crappy life, how bout you?

Edited by golfpros1, 14 April 2012 - 12:55 AM.

[Thrillhouse]

I still say he wins 2 Open Championships

[spooky]

Only if he grows up a bit more and stops getting in his own way.

[bepo]

Playaway, on 09 April 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

So you want this thing so bad you try as hard as you can and you fail.

Then some folks stick a mic in your face and ask you to explain why you failed.

This is exactly what I see with Sergio.  He wants so bad to win a major and works so hard at it that it's beyond frustrating when he can't get it done.  At some point the pressure gets to him and he starts to think if it hasn't happened by now there's nothing more he can do.  The only answer why must be that his best isn't good enough.  

You can say its mental but you have no idea what its like to try so hard and fail especially with the media pressure constantly on you.  

I think he'll get one soon and if he gets that first one it could open the flood gates with the pressure from himself and the media gone.

[joekelli]

I was a pretty good bowler a few years ago and tried going pro briefly. However, I had never rolled a 300 game. After my third 299 game and a bunch of other 289+ games I started saying it would never happen. Well I was bowling in a tournament and I had the first 9 strikes and kept thinking that one of these next 3 will be a 10 pin or something. I struck on the first 2 and I was just thinking the whole time I was throwing my last shot that I wasn't going to strike. I ended up fluching the shot and all 10 pins were in the pit! I had done it, my first 300 game! I have now thrown 3 of them. I think Sergio is just trying to take the pressure off himself just like I was. It just might work for him but just like me he still really wants to win one.

[swbyps]

joekelli, on 16 April 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

I was a pretty good bowler a few years ago and tried going pro briefly. However, I had never rolled a 300 game. After my third 299 game and a bunch of other 289+ games I started saying it would never happen. Well I was bowling in a tournament and I had the first 9 strikes and kept thinking that one of these next 3 will be a 10 pin or something. I struck on the first 2 and I was just thinking the whole time I was throwing my last shot that I wasn't going to strike. I ended up fluching the shot and all 10 pins were in the pit! I had done it, my first 300 game! I have now thrown 3 of them. I think Sergio is just trying to take the pressure off himself just like I was. It just might work for him but just like me he still really wants to win one.

This is a pretty good comparison. I would ask, how is your mental makeup with respect to your bowling? Do you believe yourself to be mentally tough? Even though you hadnt had that elusive 300 game, did you ever question your ability to win big at your level? Were you able to execute winning shots under the pressure of competition? See, I dont think Sergio is mentally tough. Hes been going on like this about himself for the majority of his career. At Augusta, he made his initial comments on Saturday, and when asked about it on Sunday he reiterated the statements..confirmed that he said what he meant and felt. I dont know, maybe he is trying to psych himself out, but I have to think he believes this to an extent. Maybe for someone who has a tough mental makeup they can psyche them self out like this and turn it into some type of self challenge, but Sergio has shown hes fragile mentally. I dont think the reverse psychology tactic would be effective with him.

Edited by swbyps, 17 April 2012 - 09:51 AM.

[jlam1127]

Sergio is a realist... he understands that he had numerous opportunities and didn't take advantage of it.  Why are we crucifying him for being candid and not giving canned answers?

[joekelli]

swbyps, on 17 April 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

joekelli, on 16 April 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

I was a pretty good bowler a few years ago and tried going pro briefly. However, I had never rolled a 300 game. After my third 299 game and a bunch of other 289+ games I started saying it would never happen. Well I was bowling in a tournament and I had the first 9 strikes and kept thinking that one of these next 3 will be a 10 pin or something. I struck on the first 2 and I was just thinking the whole time I was throwing my last shot that I wasn't going to strike. I ended up fluching the shot and all 10 pins were in the pit! I had done it, my first 300 game! I have now thrown 3 of them. I think Sergio is just trying to take the pressure off himself just like I was. It just might work for him but just like me he still really wants to win one.

This is a pretty good comparison. I would ask, how is your mental makeup with respect to your bowling? Do you believe yourself to be mentally tough? Even though you hadnt had that elusive 300 game, did you ever question your ability to win big at your level? Were you able to execute winning shots under the pressure of competition? See, I dont think Sergio is mentally tough. Hes been going on like this about himself for the majority of his career. At Augusta, he made his initial comments on Saturday, and when asked about it on Sunday he reiterated the statements..confirmed that he said what he meant and felt. I dont know, maybe he is trying to psych himself out, but I have to think he believes this to an extent. Maybe for someone who has a tough mental makeup they can psyche them self out like this and turn it into some type of self challenge, but Sergio has shown hes fragile mentally. I dont think the reverse psychology tactic would be effective with him.

I was always good under pressure I thought, but after so many close calls with that allusive 300 it starts to get to you. I would get upset when guys around me were shooting 300 games and I knew they were not as good as I was.  I was actually starting to root against them when someone was on a string of strikes. It was only after I stopped worrying about it, is when it happened. I honestly got to the point I just didn't care if I ever had one. I still wanted one but I knew i was a good bowler and I wasn't going to let it define me.  I actually bowled in my one PBA tournament before I had my 300 game. I missed cashing in that tournament by 2 pins! But during my last game they post up what the projected score to cash would be. I figured out I needed to throw the last 6 strikes to reach that number and I did it!

[CincyCreech]

Sergio!!

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[swbyps]

joekelli, on 17 April 2012 - 10:04 AM, said:

swbyps, on 17 April 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

joekelli, on 16 April 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

I was a pretty good bowler a few years ago and tried going pro briefly. However, I had never rolled a 300 game. After my third 299 game and a bunch of other 289+ games I started saying it would never happen. Well I was bowling in a tournament and I had the first 9 strikes and kept thinking that one of these next 3 will be a 10 pin or something. I struck on the first 2 and I was just thinking the whole time I was throwing my last shot that I wasn't going to strike. I ended up fluching the shot and all 10 pins were in the pit! I had done it, my first 300 game! I have now thrown 3 of them. I think Sergio is just trying to take the pressure off himself just like I was. It just might work for him but just like me he still really wants to win one.

This is a pretty good comparison. I would ask, how is your mental makeup with respect to your bowling? Do you believe yourself to be mentally tough? Even though you hadnt had that elusive 300 game, did you ever question your ability to win big at your level? Were you able to execute winning shots under the pressure of competition? See, I dont think Sergio is mentally tough. Hes been going on like this about himself for the majority of his career. At Augusta, he made his initial comments on Saturday, and when asked about it on Sunday he reiterated the statements..confirmed that he said what he meant and felt. I dont know, maybe he is trying to psych himself out, but I have to think he believes this to an extent. Maybe for someone who has a tough mental makeup they can psyche them self out like this and turn it into some type of self challenge, but Sergio has shown hes fragile mentally. I dont think the reverse psychology tactic would be effective with him.

I was always good under pressure I thought, but after so many close calls with that allusive 300 it starts to get to you. I would get upset when guys around me were shooting 300 games and I knew they were not as good as I was.  I was actually starting to root against them when someone was on a string of strikes. It was only after I stopped worrying about it, is when it happened. I honestly got to the point I just didn't care if I ever had one. I still wanted one but I knew i was a good bowler and I wasn't going to let it define me.  I actually bowled in my one PBA tournament before I had my 300 game. I missed cashing in that tournament by 2 pins! But during my last game they post up what the projected score to cash would be. I figured out I needed to throw the last 6 strikes to reach that number and I did it!

Another good comparison. You were able to let it go. Wouldnt let it define you. You were still able to execute at your highest levels under pressure. No, you werent at the peak of professional bowling competing in a "bowling major" if you will, but there are still parallels. I dont think Sergio can let it go. I think he is letting it define him. Im not suggesting that your competitive pressures, expectations, scrutiny, etc are equal to his, but the situations do compare..respectively. At your level you seem to be mentally tough enough. At Sergios level, he does not seem to be. At least IMO.

Another poster mentioned that Sergio is a realist. This actually goes right along with my point. If he does believe to an extent that he isnt good enough, then its stands to reason that from a realist perspective he could make statements like this.

[QuigleyDU]

Sergio has always been very passive aggressive. Same ol same ol from him. He has the skills, just not the mind set.

Neither did phil for a long time. But he eventually got one. Then that one turned into 4. So I wont say that Serg is never going to win one. But with his current outlook it is unlikely.

[texcrom]

In two years Sergio will be irrelevant to the game of golf.

And the world would be better for it.

Always been a whiner, about majors, about other players having "luck" where he had none, even about Morgan Leigh Norman breaking his heart........guess she got tired of the whiner too!!

[golfpros1]

he still seems like a spoiled brat, and unfortunately that personality defect is only harboured by the life he can live.  At his age, flipping off a reporter... classic db.

[minitour]

Whether you think you can or you think you can't...you're right.

[CelticFan3]

CincyCreech, on 17 April 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

Sergio!!

Oh come on, this is a still shot from when he made a joke about which finger was infected. Everyone laughed about it, it was just a joke.

[golfpros1]

OdessaGolfer, on 21 April 2012 - 12:07 AM, said:

CincyCreech, on 17 April 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

Sergio!!

Oh come on, this is a still shot from when he made a joke about which finger was infected. Everyone laughed about it, it was just a joke.

and then right after that he said, anyone want to pull my finger?, followed by, did someone step on a duck?

sorry, but considering his track record, not much slack here and I think there are better ways to tell jokes if you want to be a professional.  save that for the bar room.

[mrikking]

IMO, he's just being honest. Golf is as much a game of luck and good breaks as it is patience and finesse. There are only 4 majors each year and anyone in the field is capable of winning.

Golf could grow by promoting teams (Nike, Ping, Taylormade...) but golfers insist on promoting it by individuals. Never made sense to me.

[golfpros1]

first i've heard of that idea, but the flaw in it is they dont play on any team.  A lot of players play mixed bags, even if they are staffers that represent the company.  And, if you're on a team, you need a coach, a gm, etc.  It's not really part of golf aside from the occasional team event based on birthplace.