TheCityGame, on 05 April 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:
dogsbe, on 05 April 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:
Oh I think I will put a different spin on the question.
I was playing a practice round for an event next week. On nearly all the par 4s, I would expect the vast majority of players will simply pull their drivers. I hit my driver on only 4 holes, the big stroke index 1 & 2 and 2 of the par 5s. I also hit two 3 woods and the rest were either a 4 iron or 5 wood. So, my plan is to give up +30 yards on most of the holes against my competitors. The reason why I am willing to do this is not because I am concerned about popping one in the woods, but to put my ball in perfect position to attack the green. Position is everything except for the the longest par 4, which the architect is actually testing your distance.
The point being, I would rather be hitting into a grean in the correct angle of attack with a 5 iron than trying to hit a 9 iron out of position.
I'd be very interested in hearing what kind of hole is designed where you can get in position for a 5-iron that is going to put you in a better position to attack a pin than a 9 iron.
Sure, there are holes I lay back on because I want to take trouble out of play, but that's not what you're saying.
You are right, I am not saying to stay out of a hazard, but saying to stay in position. Did you ever play around where every hole was just a battle and every shot was annoyingly difficult to get to the green? You just end up getting really frustrated because you find you don't have a good lie, your are blocked out, a very tight landing area into the green and so on. What is happening is that you are being highly manipulated by the golf architect to play your ball into the wrong position and if you do this, you just end up with a big score, regardless how well you strike the ball.
In order to score well, you MUST get the angle of attack to the green right.
Here is an example from a course that I played yesterday.
Here is a good example: http://www.walsallgolfclub.co.uk/a_course/holes.php?hole=8
It is a 465 yard par 4.
First off, the hole is long with a difficult drive as the left side of the tee is blocked out and there is a nasty little bunker right side. With the shape of the fairway and position of the tee box, it is very much looking like the shot is blast one over the left side of the bunker. If you manage to hit this fantastic shot, you are truely out of position. Balls coming into the green from the right side will not hold the green and find thelves with a somewhat difficult chip or an easy bunker shot. Anything from the right that does carry the green, will find a very difficult bunker and a double bogey is very realistic score.
The correct position is on the left side around the before the 150 marker (on the planner). From there, the green opens up and you don't have worry about carrying anything. Also the slope on the green will help to stop any balls. So regardless of distance, position is everything on this hole.