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[onafriday]

Hrlyrdr22, on 23 May 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

onafriday, on 20 May 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:

^ absolutely.  They'd make a killing.  The fact that you can't get the TA with a factory installed after market shaft just boggles my mind.

I ordered my TA from my local shop thru his CALAWAY rep, with AD-DI, expecting it next week or so.  Not sure who told you cant order with other shafts?  I just cant get an extra shaft and tip....

You can't on shopcallaway.com, nor golfsmith.com or whatever.

Through a rep, very possible - but that assumes you normally work through a shop that knows a rep, which not everyone does.

[rexwrx]

JayMack1527, on 23 May 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

I had some time to kill after work today so I went to Dicks Sporting Goods to look at some putters, and again found myself hitting drivers, lol...  I hit the R11s and the Razr Fit again, but played it up with the guy, like I knew nothing about the clubs.  I hit the R11s first, and was able to hit a drive of 314 yards with 116 swing speed, and a 12-13 launch angle with a spin rate from 2200-2550.  I hit the Razr Fit second and hit a top drive of 322 yards with a carry distance of 292 yards at 12 launch angle 117 swing speed.  Spin rate for the Razr Fit was around 2200-2400.  To be honest I no longer have a clue what to go with, because every time i hit these clubs the numbers contradict themselves.  The stock Razr Fit shaft is horribly whippy, but lets me hit a drive 322 yards with a stock stiff flex shaft!  The R11s shaft feels much more solid, but today I didn't get the better numbers I did last weekend of around 330.  Either way, I'm going to upgrade the shaft in whatever I end up going with, but what really makes me scratch my head is that I don't get that pop fell with razr fit that I do with the R11s driver.  The shots on the razr fit today, just went much farther for some reason.  I have no doubt that the Razr Fit face is hotter, because every Callaway club I have owned has been hot off of the face, but the R11s shots just seems like you aren't hitting anything at all, with the trampoline effect off of the face.  I hit the same old used maxfli type of balls at Dicks Sporting Goods, as I did with the Golf Galaxy store, but the numbers today were just completely different.

What do you guys think?

JayMack1527

Personally, I think you are testing drivers on a Indoor Simulator, and accuracy wise your results are well within the margin of error for the Simulator. Never can tell how much Tailwind boost they have on either.

[TLUBulldogGolf]

gavman07, on 23 May 2012 - 12:45 PM, said:

I have noticed that many people have had a slight problem with the higher launch/spin of the RF TA and RF for that matter.  When I originally started with this driver I too had problems with too much spin and a high launch.   I just installed a Graphite Design Tour AD BB and I can say without a doubt it is the best combo I have ever hit.    The club is extremely accurate ( I missed two fairways in 14 holes yesterday) and is plenty long.   This combo is right up there with the longest drivers I have ever hit, but the real difference is the dispersion.   I can't say enough about how accurate this combo is for me.  

With that being said, I agree that it launches to high and has too much spin for most stronger players with the stock shaft or even a higher end high launch/low spin shaft.  This is most likely what creates the accuracy that we rave about, but it can be tamed with the correct shaft.  Just get a lower launch/lower spinning shaft than you typically play and you will be amazed.  Almost every shaft company has come out with a low launch/low spin shaft this year.   I was using the tour ad di, ozik x-con 5, and diamana kai'li.   These all had decent results but I found myself setting the club to open to lower then launch and was having a tougher time getting the shot shape (draw) that I constantly like to see on my drives.

If you have the means and the time I would highly suggest putting this combination together or something similar (ahina, tour ad bb, tour spec, fubuki alpha, etc) .  It's a match made in heaven.  I really want to see how a fubuki alpha and this head would perform together.  For me at least.  I also have my driver set on (S+) so it is very slightly open and slightly lower than the stated loft.  I have a 10 grams weight in the heel and 2 gram weight in the toe and hit a draw typically on drives.  

I would be very interested to hear if anyone else has paired the RF TA with a lower launch/ lower spin head than they typically play and to see if they liked the result.  Best of Luck!

I consider myself a pretty strong player (116-118 ss w/ quick tempo) and I haven't found this head to be high launch or spin at all. I have an 8.5 paired with an Ahina on O and if anything it launches a hair low at times, though the combo itself is similar to my previous gamer which gave me ideal numbers. I do agree that this thing is really straight, I have yet to hit a drive that was really crooked, most of my misses still want to go straight.

[gavman07]

TLUBulldogGolf, on 24 May 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

I consider myself a pretty strong player (116-118 ss w/ quick tempo) and I haven't found this head to be high launch or spin at all. I have an 8.5 paired with an Ahina on O and if anything it launches a hair low at times, though the combo itself is similar to my previous gamer which gave me ideal numbers. I do agree that this thing is really straight, I have yet to hit a drive that was really crooked, most of my misses still want to go straight.

With that swing speed I would consider you a very strong player.  I don't think anyone would find any club with 8.5 degrees with a diamana ahina on "O" position to be a high launching or high spin club.   I probably couldn't even get that club airborne with my swing speed.  I am thinking of trying a 9.5* clubhead with the same Tour AD BB shaft to see if that works out even better.   I agree with you,  I think this clubhead with the right shaft is a fairway machine.

[speeder757]

You can order any shaft you want that Callaway carries

[gopherguts]

JayMack1527, on 23 May 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

I hit the R11s first, and was able to hit a drive of 314 yards with 116 swing speed, and a 12-13 launch angle with a spin rate from 2200-2550.  I hit the Razr Fit second and hit a top drive of 322 yards with a carry distance of 292 yards at 12 launch angle 117 swing speed.  Spin rate for the Razr Fit was around 2200-2400.

You can probably improve those numbers a little bit but for the most part you're not going to do a whole lot "better".

What you DON'T mention is dispersion. Which club do you hit the most consistently and with the most control and feel the most confident swinging ? After all, hitting the clubs into a screen where there's no penalty for a miss is one thing but out on the course is something else,,,,,,,

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To be honest I no longer have a clue what to go with, because every time i hit these clubs the numbers contradict themselves.  The stock Razr Fit shaft is horribly whippy, but lets me hit a drive 322 yards with a stock stiff flex shaft!  The R11s shaft feels much more solid, but today I didn't get the better numbers I did last weekend of around 330.  

No great surprise stiff shafts feel "whippy". Don't know what you're doing hitting stiff shafts. At 116 or so you are SOLIDLY into the "X" range (roughly above 105).

And as for different results every time, everybody brings a slightly different swing to the course on different days.

IMO, the real key is which club performs the best when your swing is NOT at its best. When you're swinging just right it doesn't much matter,,,,,,,

[radiman]

I'm really hoping to fit into the stock px black 7.0. Are you guys seeing this play similar to the px blue? I really can't find too many reviews on this shaft. If all else fails I can move the double cog to my kai li and sell my standard fit with the px black.

[buster]

looking forward to hearing about someone actually hitting one of these... I ordered one through our cally rep at our club (we have a special relationship with Callaway because of our GM. He's a master pro) and was told they are nearly sold out... have it coming with the motore speeder 6.2 TS which bumps the price up 250 or so... have the fit with the vc 6.2 (and have a backup with an F-3) and it has been a game changer for this old guy...just a great driver... finally got the ft-3 out of my bag.

[Bogey's Belly]

Gentlemen: I was able to get a custom shaft

Edited by Bogey's Belly, 01 June 2012 - 12:49 PM.

[TheMoneyShot]

buster, on 29 May 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

looking forward to hearing about someone actually hitting one of these... I ordered one through our cally rep at our club (we have a special relationship with Callaway because of our GM. He's a master pro) and was told they are nearly sold out... have it coming with the motore speeder 6.2 TS which bumps the price up 250 or so... have the fit with the vc 6.2 (and have a backup with an F-3) and it has been a game changer for this old guy...just a great driver... finally got the ft-3 out of my bag.

Nearly sold out?  So I guess this was a LE release after all.

[Jimmie48]

I have seen a plethora of these at the local PGA superstore...not exactly flying off the shelves there....

[Jimmie48]

Im curious...maybe at the US open or this week at Memorial.....but why have we not spotted a TA head on tour?  is it because they all already have the dual cogs and really no need for the pvd head?  Anyone know?

[Goldenhawk]

Heads up.  You can get the RAZR Fit TA for $449.  $50 off from Golfsmith under their Memorial Day sale until June 3.  Order it and input WEB221MEM as the discount code.  I know RAZR items are not included in Golfmsith's sale, but the RAZR TA slipped through the system.

[TheMoneyShot]

Goldenhawk, on 29 May 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

Heads up.  You can get the RAZR Fit TA for $449.  $50 off from Golfsmith under their Memorial Day sale until June 3.  Order it and input WEB221MEM as the discount code.  I know RAZR items are not included in Golfmsith's sale, but the RAZR TA slipped through the system.

Good find!  Hopefully they will still honor it after they catch their error.

[Goldenhawk]

TheMoneyShot, on 29 May 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Goldenhawk, on 29 May 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

Heads up.  You can get the RAZR Fit TA for $449.  $50 off from Golfsmith under their Memorial Day sale until June 3.  Order it and input WEB221MEM as the discount code.  I know RAZR items are not included in Golfmsith's sale, but the RAZR TA slipped through the system.

Good find!  Hopefully they will still honor it after they catch their error.

Use the online order system.  You can also print out the cart with the discount and walk into their store.  Some competitors will gladly match the sale price.

[jmc]

Goldenhawk, on 29 May 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

Heads up.  You can get the RAZR Fit TA for $449.  $50 off from Golfsmith under their Memorial Day sale until June 3.  Order it and input WEB221MEM as the discount code.  I know RAZR items are not included in Golfmsith's sale, but the RAZR TA slipped through the system.

Or just add a set of ferrules for $2.49, then you can get a TA for only $399!!!! But the sale ends today!

[Left Rough]

Goldenhawk, on 31 May 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

On a nice 9-hole exec course today, there was 238 to the hole in a short par 4.  Drove the green and the ball landed 5 feet from the hole.  Right to left break putt, and eagle!  The 14.5 Super XTD will be in the bag for a while.

[Goldenhawk]

Left Rough, on 31 May 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

Goldenhawk, on 31 May 2012 - 04:59 PM, said:

On a nice 9-hole exec course today, there was 238 to the hole in a short par 4.  Drove the green and the ball landed 5 feet from the hole.  Right to left break putt, and eagle!  The 14.5 Super XTD will be in the bag for a while.

Hmm....... I got he threads confused.  My fault.  I also drove a 255 par 4 wih the RAZR TA.  Most forgiving and accurate driver I've gamed this year.  And I've put the R11s, RBZ and Adams in play this year.

[Goldenhawk]

OK.  Golfsmith has upped the discount.  The RAZR Fit TA qualifies for the Father's Day sale this weekend that ends on June 4.  Get 15% off the RAZR Fit TA with the code WEB222FIF.  That's $75.00 off.

[HardHatsRequired]

radiman, on 26 May 2012 - 12:16 PM, said:

I'm really hoping to fit into the stock px black 7.0. Are you guys seeing this play similar to the px blue? I really can't find too many reviews on this shaft. If all else fails I can move the double cog to my kai li and sell my standard fit with the px black.

The stock TA only comes with PXB 6.5.  I find it way too whippy (SS around 110, +/- 5mph).  I really need to get on a launch monitor with some of the different shaft options.

[Bob57]

beltranjr, on 07 May 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Bob57, on 07 May 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

beltranjr, on 06 May 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

Has anybody tested the FIT TA weights, by actually weighing them? I was looking at them, and decided to line the up based on size, to my surprise, they don't line up by the weight number.  Just want to make sure that its not an error and they actually weight what is stamped on them

You've lined them up by size, now you should line them up by density of material.  Where in the literature did they say the weights are all the same material...  Since they are painted black you can't tell.  Look at a few Taylor Made weights and they are obviously using different materials..  Ever hear of steel, tungsten, brass, aluminum, etc. etc. all weigh different amounts for the same size...If they made the 12 gram out of the same material as the 2 gram it would be 12 times as deep as the 2 is using your home economic physics approach..

Or grab your little bag of weights and throw them on your mother's cooking scale or go to a post office and use their free scales...Why wait for someone here to go measure them for you-----DIY

Bob, thank you so much for your insight and generous and valuable co you seem to be a very smart man.  I would have never thought of using my mothers scale, since unlike you, I don't live with her.  You are so smart by pointing out the literature, it does not say that the weight are the same material, BUT IT DOES NOT SAY they are. Instead of going to the post office, maybe I will go to the nearest golf store and look at the Taylor Made wights, since they are OBVIOUSLY USING DIFFERENT MATERIAL.  

And I have never heard of steel, tungsten, brass and aluminum, what are all those things?  Are they kind of like rocks, but better?  And your example of my home economics make plenty of sense, specially making the 10 gram weight smaller than the 6,4 and 8.  Making the 6 lager than the 4. And making the 8 larger that the 12.  Does this make sense to you?

And finally, I thought that this was a forum where people ask questions, share information and try to find out about golf and specially golf equipment, but thanks to you, I realize that questions are not allowed and we all need to do research on our own.  Next time I want to know about a shaft, grip, club, ball, etc., I won't ask other members, I will JUST GO OUT AND MYSELF, not waiting for some one to do it for me.  

Again, thanks for your valuable contribution and physics lesson.

You are welcome for the physics lesson.  However I don't live with my mother.  Couldn't if I wanted to as she passed away a month ago.  I can guarantee you one thing she would have known all the stuff I mentioned and how to go about getting the info by herself...

Edited by Bob57, 01 June 2012 - 10:43 PM.

[wundej]

Bob57, on 01 June 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

You are welcome for the physics lesson.  However I don't live with my mother.  Couldn't if I wanted to as she passed away a month ago.  I can guarantee you one thing she would have known all the stuff I mentioned and how to go about getting the info by herself...

Is this what we have to look forward to on gwrx? Certain things warrant searches and a little bit of research before people ask questions, I agree there is a lot of "spoon feed me what I want to know so I don't have to do anything" happening lately. But in this case all he did was ask if anyone weighed them, why would someone waste gas and time to go to the PO when someone here (and I promise you someone has) weighed the weights already? You could have just answered his question and moved on, or just moved on and allowed someone else to. I'm sure other members may not have known and had that question as well so there is nothing wrong with asking something like that.

[DougnDallas]

Jimmie48, on 29 May 2012 - 03:18 PM, said:

Im curious...maybe at the US open or this week at Memorial.....but why have we not spotted a TA head on tour?  is it because they all already have the dual cogs and really no need for the pvd head?  Anyone know?

I can absolutely confirm that as of the Nelson, not one TA head on tour & not one on the van.  Apparently, there's a few players that want an all black head, but none yet.

[Big Ben]

Bogey, on 29 May 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

Gentlemen: I was able to get a custom shaft

Just to confirm, you ordered a custom shaft with the RF TA Tour tip? Thanks good if yes...BB

[beltranjr]

wundej, on 02 June 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

Bob57, on 01 June 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

You are welcome for the physics lesson.  However I don't live with my mother.  Couldn't if I wanted to as she passed away a month ago.  I can guarantee you one thing she would have known all the stuff I mentioned and how to go about getting the info by herself...

Is this what we have to look forward to on gwrx? Certain things warrant searches and a little bit of research before people ask questions, I agree there is a lot of "spoon feed me what I want to know so I don't have to do anything" happening lately. But in this case all he did was ask if anyone weighed them, why would someone waste gas and time to go to the PO when someone here (and I promise you someone has) weighed the weights already? You could have just answered his question and moved on, or just moved on and allowed someone else to. I'm sure other members may not have known and had that question as well so there is nothing wrong with asking something like that.

Thank you, last I checked, this is a forum to learn and share.  I believe that a product that had so little information when it was launched, warranted all of looking for information anywhere we could find it.  I guess that people like Bob, have very little to do and just troll the site to make idiotic comments.

[beltranjr]

Bob57, on 01 June 2012 - 10:43 PM, said:

beltranjr, on 07 May 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Bob, thank you so much for your insight and generous and valuable co you seem to be a very smart man.  I would have never thought of using my mothers scale, since unlike you, I don't live with her.  You are so smart by pointing out the literature, it does not say that the weight are the same material, BUT IT DOES NOT SAY they are. Instead of going to the post office, maybe I will go to the nearest golf store and look at the Taylor Made wights, since they are OBVIOUSLY USING DIFFERENT MATERIAL.  

And I have never heard of steel, tungsten, brass and aluminum, what are all those things?  Are they kind of like rocks, but better?  And your example of my home economics make plenty of sense, specially making the 10 gram weight smaller than the 6,4 and 8.  Making the 6 lager than the 4. And making the 8 larger that the 12.  Does this make sense to you?

And finally, I thought that this was a forum where people ask questions, share information and try to find out about golf and specially golf equipment, but thanks to you, I realize that questions are not allowed and we all need to do research on our own.  Next time I want to know about a shaft, grip, club, ball, etc., I won't ask other members, I will JUST GO OUT AND MYSELF, not waiting for some one to do it for me.  

Again, thanks for your valuable contribution and physics lesson.

You are welcome for the physics lesson.  However I don't live with my mother.  Couldn't if I wanted to as she passed away a month ago.  I can guarantee you one thing she would have known all the stuff I mentioned and how to go about getting the info by herself...

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Bob, you are an absolute idiot! I am willing to bet that you DO NOT own a RAZR FIT TA, so would not have been able to correctly answer my question, so next time, just move on and don't make stupid comments for the hell of it.

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[kben1993]

Went out Sunday afternoon to compare my fast 12ls black tie x & razr fit ta px 6.5. First off, I've been gaming the fast12ls for a few months and I hit very well. The TA would have to be as accurate and longer to get in the bag. Long story short, on pured shots the TA is 17-20 yds longer and misses with the TA were as long as pured shots with the fast12ls. Accuracy is still there as well. No launch monitor, just 12 premium balls off the first tee, 6 hits with each driver. This was after getting very loose on the range with a couple bags of range balls. Needless to say, It's in the bag.

[Hrlyrdr22]

Big Ben, on 03 June 2012 - 07:53 AM, said:

Bogey, on 29 May 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

Gentlemen: I was able to get a custom shaft

Just to confirm, you ordered a custom shaft with the RF TA Tour tip? Thanks good if yes...BB

Yes I ordered mine with a AD-DI, and just came in yesterday!!!

[gavman07]

Has anyone verified if this is a limited run or if they are making more than the originally stated 6,000?  Just wondering.  Since they are offering them with shaft upgrades I assume they are forgoing the initial 6000 limit.

[Goldenhawk]

The RAZR TA does seem to be in many golf stores in the DC area, except DSG.  Maybe there are more than 6000 drivers being made.