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#1 shadowboy0387

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:56 AM

Any favorites this week by you guys??

Johnson Wagner is trending in the right direction, and he's a past winner here. Im personally waiting for him to come back down to earth, but since he's on my fantasy team I hope it's not this week. Lee Westwood has a great track record here so I expect him to contend as well. As always, I like Hunter Mahan. His lateral rotation in his swing is something I think a lot of golfers should implement. He does a great job of trapping the ball every time. Keegan Bradley and Bryce Molder are two to keep an eye on as well.... Yes, I said Bryce Molder lol. #Underrated


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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:15 AM

Bud Cauley off to nice start.  Will he be the real deal ( his caddie thinks so) or flame out like most of the young guys in the Tiger era?

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:39 AM

Bud is winning! Do work, son!

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:43 AM

What's considered the real deal? One win per year? I think we need to stop comparing guys to Tiger (not saying that you are). There won't ever be another TW. Someone like Mahan, Watney, Schwartzel, Johnson (both of them), Scott, McIlroy, Simpson, Kaymer, Haas, Kuchar, Bradley, Garcia, etc. who has the talent to win once or twice per year in my opinion is considered the real deal. Rory is the exception... I think he has the talent to win 3 or 4 times per year for his career. Im not saying that will happen NOW, but he's got that kind of talent. Bud Cauley is impressive, considering he never went to Q-School. Only a handful of players can say they've done that, including Tiger and Phil. I think Cauley will fall in that once or twice per year group. And for the record, that's not a bad group. For us to expect someone to win 5 or 6 times per year is ridiculous. That just goes to show how good Tiger really was. Didn't he win 9 times worldwide in 2009? That's unreal! Ask Dustin Johnson to do that hahaha.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:43 AM

I like Bud, it would be good for him to get a win early so it doesn't hang over him like a certain someone.


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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:01 AM

Like Fowler? He's the perfect example of what I mean. The American media was all over him calling him the next big thing... c'mon! He's a good player, but he's nothing more than Ben Crane!

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:01 AM

View Postshadowboy0387, on 29 March 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

What's considered the real deal? One win per year? I think we need to stop comparing guys to Tiger (not saying that you are). There won't ever be another TW. Someone like Mahan, Watney, Schwartzel, Johnson (both of them), Scott, McIlroy, Simpson, Kaymer, Haas, Kuchar, Bradley, Garcia, etc. who has the talent to win once or twice per year in my opinion is considered the real deal. Rory is the exception... I think he has the talent to win 3 or 4 times per year for his career. Im not saying that will happen NOW, but he's got that kind of talent. Bud Cauley is impressive, considering he never went to Q-School. Only a handful of players can say they've done that, including Tiger and Phil. I think Cauley will fall in that once or twice per year group. And for the record, that's not a bad group. For us to expect someone to win 5 or 6 times per year is ridiculous. That just goes to show how good Tiger really was. Didn't he win 9 times worldwide in 2009? That's unreal! Ask Dustin Johnson to do that hahaha.


I think winning 3 times a year and finishing in the top ten in the majors would be a real deal. That should be Rory and I bet it is. I also think there's a young kid out there using a belly putter who will roll the rock like no one's ever seen.  Dustin Johnson is a good example of flame outs.  His antenna just doesn't pick up all the channels.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:07 AM

View Post19tholer, on 29 March 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

View Postshadowboy0387, on 29 March 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

What's considered the real deal? One win per year? I think we need to stop comparing guys to Tiger (not saying that you are). There won't ever be another TW. Someone like Mahan, Watney, Schwartzel, Johnson (both of them), Scott, McIlroy, Simpson, Kaymer, Haas, Kuchar, Bradley, Garcia, etc. who has the talent to win once or twice per year in my opinion is considered the real deal. Rory is the exception... I think he has the talent to win 3 or 4 times per year for his career. Im not saying that will happen NOW, but he's got that kind of talent. Bud Cauley is impressive, considering he never went to Q-School. Only a handful of players can say they've done that, including Tiger and Phil. I think Cauley will fall in that once or twice per year group. And for the record, that's not a bad group. For us to expect someone to win 5 or 6 times per year is ridiculous. That just goes to show how good Tiger really was. Didn't he win 9 times worldwide in 2009? That's unreal! Ask Dustin Johnson to do that hahaha.


I think winning 3 times a year and finishing in the top ten in the majors would be a real deal. That should be Rory and I bet it is. I also think there's a young kid out there using a belly putter who will roll the rock like no one's ever seen.  Dustin Johnson is a good example of flame outs.  His antenna just doesn't pick up all the channels.

Donald won 4 times last year with 2 Major Top-tens, but he seems to be the forgotten man with all the hype on young hopes like Rory/Webb/Bradley whoever.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:11 AM

View Post19tholer, on 29 March 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

View Postshadowboy0387, on 29 March 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

What's considered the real deal? One win per year? I think we need to stop comparing guys to Tiger (not saying that you are). There won't ever be another TW. Someone like Mahan, Watney, Schwartzel, Johnson (both of them), Scott, McIlroy, Simpson, Kaymer, Haas, Kuchar, Bradley, Garcia, etc. who has the talent to win once or twice per year in my opinion is considered the real deal. Rory is the exception... I think he has the talent to win 3 or 4 times per year for his career. Im not saying that will happen NOW, but he's got that kind of talent. Bud Cauley is impressive, considering he never went to Q-School. Only a handful of players can say they've done that, including Tiger and Phil. I think Cauley will fall in that once or twice per year group. And for the record, that's not a bad group. For us to expect someone to win 5 or 6 times per year is ridiculous. That just goes to show how good Tiger really was. Didn't he win 9 times worldwide in 2009? That's unreal! Ask Dustin Johnson to do that hahaha.


I think winning 3 times a year and finishing in the top ten in the majors would be a real deal. That should be Rory and I bet it is. I also think there's a young kid out there using a belly putter who will roll the rock like no one's ever seen.  Dustin Johnson is a good example of flame outs.  His antenna just doesn't pick up all the channels.

That's fine by me, but with that being said, if that's your real deal, there hasn't been a real deal in the past 15 years other than Tiger. That includes Rory (yes I know his career is young). Phil is someone you could make an argument for but he's got like two top 10's in the British Open in his career and he's about as inconsistent as the weather here in Michigan. If you think about it, in terms of talent in the golf world, there's Tiger.. a small gap... Rory... a small gap... then everyone else. I love how everyone fell in love with Westwood, Donald, Kaymer, McDowell, and Poulter over the past 3 years expecting them to do what Tiger did lol. Between them, there's two majors and a couple of WGC's haha. I think it's hilarious. Cauley is a great talent, but he's going to become 'just another golfer.' And once again... that's not a bad thing. If we lower our standards he'd be hands down someone to talk about on a weekly basis, but because of that TW guy, we cant.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:14 AM

Donald has been on Tour since like 98 and he's had one year like that. No, he's not the real deal. He's a golfer in his prime who finally found his stride. Just like the majority of other golfers right now. I like Donald too. I also like Cauley, and Kaymer (don't care much for Poulter) so Im not bad mouthing these guys by any means. If we're going off of 19tholer's 'real deal' definition, there's been one, maybe two, in the past 15-16 years.... Tiger and Phil


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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:17 AM

I think golf will be more fun with TW having tough competition. I think that time is now.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:22 AM

^Couldn't agree more. The depth of golf has gotten better with two things: 1. Better younger golfers and 2. More golfers in their prime. With that being said, I still think Tiger wins more than anyone.

Also, Im not trying to turn this into a Tiger thread haha. I'm relatively new here, but I've gotten the vibe that there's a ton of us TW fans around here (which is damn good). At the same time, I'm about as neutral as they come.

For the record, Thomas Bjorn won 3 times last year and finished 4th in the Open. Only Luke Donald and MAYBE Webb Simpson had better years than him lol. That whole next big thing is a joke UNLESS we're talking about McIlroy.

Back to the SHO... Bjorn and Cauley are T2 at -4 right now.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:51 AM

Is Tiger playing in the SHO?  I didn't think so but he must be since this thread has already devolved into another discussion about him.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 11:07 AM

Funny your post didn't do anything to promote the Shell Houston Open either....

Carl Pettersson shows up quite often but never seems to close the deal. -6 in the lead right now.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:18 PM

Seems like a bunch of heavyweights are using the SHO as warmup event and looking good early on....looking forward to see how they finish out and what kind of form they are in for next week. Somewhat disturbed by some highly ranked players not playing for multiple weeks in advance of the first Major....will be intersting to see what happens....


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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:23 PM

Yea like Adam Scott. Tiger is 1 for me, but Adam Scott is 1A in terms of favorites. Love the guy, but I wish he'd play just a bit more. He eluded to wanting to stay rested for bigger tournaments this past off season so his schedule won't be as heavy as it used to be.

Angel Carbera sighting lol. His one per year.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:32 PM

View Posteisen99, on 29 March 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

Seems like a bunch of heavyweights are using the SHO as warmup event and looking good early on....looking forward to see how they finish out and what kind of form they are in for next week. Somewhat disturbed by some highly ranked players not playing for multiple weeks in advance of the first Major....will be intersting to see what happens....

It's not like they're not playing golf though.. They're just not playing in this tournament. They could be playing practice rounds at Augusta. I doubt any of them are sitting at home on the couch.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:08 PM

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:22 PM

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Based on the clearing here & speed of storm, I'm guessing 60/90 minutes. But have to watch trailing lighting, after that.
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:22 PM

View Postshadowboy0387, on 29 March 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

View Post19tholer, on 29 March 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

View Postshadowboy0387, on 29 March 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

What's considered the real deal? One win per year? I think we need to stop comparing guys to Tiger (not saying that you are). There won't ever be another TW. Someone like Mahan, Watney, Schwartzel, Johnson (both of them), Scott, McIlroy, Simpson, Kaymer, Haas, Kuchar, Bradley, Garcia, etc. who has the talent to win once or twice per year in my opinion is considered the real deal. Rory is the exception... I think he has the talent to win 3 or 4 times per year for his career. Im not saying that will happen NOW, but he's got that kind of talent. Bud Cauley is impressive, considering he never went to Q-School. Only a handful of players can say they've done that, including Tiger and Phil. I think Cauley will fall in that once or twice per year group. And for the record, that's not a bad group. For us to expect someone to win 5 or 6 times per year is ridiculous. That just goes to show how good Tiger really was. Didn't he win 9 times worldwide in 2009? That's unreal! Ask Dustin Johnson to do that hahaha.


I think winning 3 times a year and finishing in the top ten in the majors would be a real deal. That should be Rory and I bet it is. I also think there's a young kid out there using a belly putter who will roll the rock like no one's ever seen.  Dustin Johnson is a good example of flame outs.  His antenna just doesn't pick up all the channels.

That's fine by me, but with that being said, if that's your real deal, there hasn't been a real deal in the past 15 years other than Tiger. That includes Rory (yes I know his career is young). Phil is someone you could make an argument for but he's got like two top 10's in the British Open in his career and he's about as inconsistent as the weather here in Michigan. If you think about it, in terms of talent in the golf world, there's Tiger.. a small gap... Rory... a small gap... then everyone else. I love how everyone fell in love with Westwood, Donald, Kaymer, McDowell, and Poulter over the past 3 years expecting them to do what Tiger did lol. Between them, there's two majors and a couple of WGC's haha. I think it's hilarious. Cauley is a great talent, but he's going to become 'just another golfer.' And once again... that's not a bad thing. If we lower our standards he'd be hands down someone to talk about on a weekly basis, but because of that TW guy, we cant.


I gotta ask....are you Brandle Chamblee?

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:53 PM

Haha nope! If I was, I'd be using bigger words trying to sound pompous. I like Brandel though... sometimes.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:30 PM

View PostAsleep, on 29 March 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

Based on the clearing here & speed of storm, I'm guessing 60/90 minutes. But have to watch trailing lighting, after that.
Looking like a washout, now ... too much lightening in between.
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:42 PM

View PostAsleep, on 29 March 2012 - 03:30 PM, said:

View PostAsleep, on 29 March 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

Based on the clearing here & speed of storm, I'm guessing 60/90 minutes. But have to watch trailing lighting, after that.
Looking like a washout, now ... too much lightening in between.


I didnt even know it was raining until i turned the golf channel on and saw the delay.



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Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:51 PM

I really hope Bud Cauley can put together another great round. I really like this kid, by far my favorite young golfer.
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Posted 29 March 2012 - 04:19 PM

Sunset is a late ~7:45pm, so they may get some guys out there later.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:21 PM

Complete wash out this afternoon then. Nice to see Cabrera up in the lead and playing well before Augusta next week.



Boo Weekley is finished his round but his playing partners aren't, will he be required to get up early and sign a scorecard or can he just stay in bed?



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Posted 29 March 2012 - 09:32 PM

View Postdeasy55, on 29 March 2012 - 09:21 PM, said:

Complete wash out this afternoon then. Nice to see Cabrera up in the lead and playing well before Augusta next week.



Boo Weekley is finished his round but his playing partners aren't, will he be required to get up early and sign a scorecard or can he just stay in bed?



great question - how annoying would it be to come in hours early to sign someone's card! I would imagine he has to - unless he signed it before he left - trusting the guy to write down the right number on 18 - probably against the rules anyway.




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Posted 29 March 2012 - 11:09 PM

I watched some highlights from today's first round.  That course is immaculate.  Not a blade of grass out of place.  And those greens are truer than true.

I guess Phil will play 33 holes tomorrow.  Hopefully, he'll get on a run and keep it going.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:31 AM

Bud Cauley is an absolute stud!

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 07:52 AM

View PostPGArox, on 29 March 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

I watched some highlights from today's first round.  That course is immaculate.  Not a blade of grass out of place.  And those greens are truer than true.

I guess Phil will play 33 holes tomorrow.  Hopefully, he'll get on a run and keep it going.

Everyone is saying what great shape the course is in.





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