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[speeder757]

Phil is testing out KBS Tours again this week.... Not sure if he will put them in play tomorrow or not......

[The GreekGrind]

speeder757, on 21 March 2012 - 11:55 PM, said:

Phil is testing out KBS Tours again this week.... Not sure if he will put them in play tomorrow or not......

Phil isn't testing KBS, and isn't switching shafts.  He's playing (and is completely happy with) his current PX set up.

These pictures are from yesterday at Bay Hill.  

Whatever KBS he hit or may try is only because he was playing a pro-am round.  Not much different than if you let your buddy hit one of your clubs just to try it, hit it, or if you have another set of irons with shafts different than the ones you regularly play.  

Edited by The GreekGrind, 22 March 2012 - 12:44 AM.

[ZJohnson]

He has been testing the KBS v.2 for some time now.  I have pics of them being built on my old phone which is now at the bottom of a Koi pond.

[scratchswinger]

Funny

[jprox]

I watched "the range" and i thought i saw that kim braly guy walking with phil at the range. He was carrying a couple of clubs.

[kg92lefty]

Need to get your post count up?

[ZJohnson]

These are pics I took a couple of months ago and posted in another thread.

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[KYMAR]

Oh well who can argue with those pics? Proof Positive for sure.

Either way OP, your title is misleading.

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"He is Playing KBS"

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"No word if he will play them"

Edited by KYMAR, 22 March 2012 - 12:20 AM.

[The GreekGrind]

ZJohnson, those are interesting pictures, and I don't doubt any player has clubs with shafts they don't play in competition (just to try them out).  But the pictures you posted just show a shaft on the one hand, and iron heads on the other, but no picture of the clubs with those shafts installed together.  They could be completely unrelated pictures.  If you know better than I won't disagree of course, but unless I see Phil hitting different shafts, or hear him say he's hitting different shafts, I'm not going to presume anything.  That "Phil M" box might be for Phil Morris (who also happens to be a lefty)  

Edited by The GreekGrind, 22 March 2012 - 12:32 AM.

[scratchswinger]

How did your phone get in a koi pond?

[ZJohnson]

You can doubt me all you want but I was right there with Kim when these were being built.  He has been working Phil to switch for a long time.  If the clubs were still in the shop I would post pics of them tomorrow.  There is no reason for me to lie.  It wouldn't gain me anything.

[ZJohnson]

scratchswinger, on 22 March 2012 - 12:36 AM, said:

How did your phone get in a koi pond?

Guinness...well I blame it on that because I had one in one hand and my phone was in the other and I slipped on a rock and it fell out of my hand.

[The GreekGrind]

ZJohnson, on 22 March 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

You can doubt me all you want but I was right there with Kim when these were being built.  He has been working Phil to switch for a long time.  If the clubs were still in the shop I would post pics of them tomorrow.  There is no reason for me to lie.  It wouldn't gain me anything.

Not doubting you at all Z, in fact I said if you know better, I'm not going to question that.  Just saying until I hear Phil say it himself, or see him playing different shafts, I'm not going to presume anything he hits or has built for him is anything other than what it is on face value, just a golfer trying something new.  Won't go so far as to say he's testing anything, or is planning a switch.  In fact I'd strongly disagree with that for various substantiated reasons.  Anyway cool pics.  And before someone spins this out of control, none of what I'm saying implies that one shaft is better or more preferred than the other.  I know we're all protective of our brands as if they're family.     PX and KBS both get love from me.

Edited by The GreekGrind, 22 March 2012 - 12:49 AM.

[MadGolfer76]

KBS favors left handed golfers moreso than other brands...

[ZJohnson]

The GreekGrind, on 22 March 2012 - 12:47 AM, said:

ZJohnson, on 22 March 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

You can doubt me all you want but I was right there with Kim when these were being built.  He has been working Phil to switch for a long time.  If the clubs were still in the shop I would post pics of them tomorrow.  There is no reason for me to lie.  It wouldn't gain me anything.

Not doubting you at all Z, in fact I said if you know better, I'm not going to question that.  Just saying until I hear Phil say it himself, or see him playing different shafts, I'm not going to presume anything he hits or has built for him is anything other than what it is on face value, just a golfer trying something new.  Won't go so far as to say he's testing anything, or is planning a switch.  In fact I'd strongly disagree with that for various substantiated reasons.  Anyway cool pics.  And before someone spins this out of control, none of what I'm saying implies that one shaft is better or more preferred than the other.  I know we're all protective of our brands as if they're family.     PX and KBS both get love from me.

I actually dislike both shafts for my game.  DG guy for life.

Completely understand your point btw.

Edited by ZJohnson, 22 March 2012 - 01:39 AM.

[pga43]

There are photos from the Wednesday Pro-Am at Bay Hill with Phil hitting the KBS Tours. I know cuz I saw him hitting/testing them, talked with Kim and took the photos


Greg

[Hifade]

This is not directed at any one person but the negativity, lack of trust and level of doubt are incredible, here, anymore. Anytime someone posts a claim of any kind the typical ???'s and comments that follow are:


"How do YOU know?"

"What proof do YOU have?"

"Do you have pictures to substantiate your claim?"

"Those pictures don't prove anything?"

"You need better pictures.....the ones you posted don't prove anything"

"I won't believe it 'til I see it with my own eyes or you can post a video, sworn testimony or bring that person with you here to this site to back your claims"

"Just because the owner of the company is working with him AND he's been spotted playing them, doesn't mean anything."

"My brother's wife's cousin's sister's co-worker's aunt's doctor's 3rd wife's bartender says differently.....and I believe them"


....and the hits keep right on coming.

The times we live in (like this site) have really changed. It's a cynical world we live in, isn't it? I'd love to post that I know Phil's agent ("the coach"), worked with Gaylord Sports prior to their recent acquisition, know several of the closest people around Phil, and as a result, also know he is testing KBS shafts but I'd be asked to prove all that, too, and I won't play that game so I'll keep that to myself and folks can draw their own conclusions. When doubters do finally have their "proof," then it will all be old news.

Edited by Hifade, 22 March 2012 - 02:50 PM.

[ToysRUs]

Why would anyone who has seen or heard about Phil tinkering with equipment ever doubt that he has or is trying different shafts?
Maybe the OP misworded the title and it should read Phil is trying out KBS shafts.
Either way IMO Phil should be playing C-Tapers like I do!!!!!!!

[PingDrv00]

I find it surprising as well that Phil is not giving the C-Tapers a run.  I thought they would be the go to option for him to try.  Does anyone know the details on this KBS v2 shaft, and what it is supposed to do?

[scratchswinger]

ZJohnson, on 22 March 2012 - 12:42 AM, said:

scratchswinger, on 22 March 2012 - 12:36 AM, said:

How did your phone get in a koi pond?

Guinness...well I blame it on that because I had one in one hand and my phone was in the other and I slipped on a rock and it fell out of my hand.

Have you tried the new Guiness Lager? So sweet on the tongue....

[lvmike]

I agree!  Good grief, the cynicism is getting rampant around here.  

I've got no insider info, no pics, but I did watch 'The Range' last night and he was clearly warming up with a shaft that had the KBS sticker on it.  It was the early morning scene where he was back to back on the range with Tiger.  Whether he was testing or not, I'm unaware, but he was hitting a wedge with KBS in it.  

Ha...or a PX with a KBS shaft label to get a bunch of GolfWRXers all fired up on a Thursday morning!!

[Jamboy72]

pga43, on 22 March 2012 - 04:08 AM, said:

There are photos from the Wednesday Pro-Am at Bay Hill with Phil hitting the KBS Tours. I know cuz I saw him hitting/testing them, talked with Kim and took the photos


Greg

Well, this seems pretty straightforward!  Thanks Greg!

[markheardjr]

Wonder if he wants to hit it a little higher for the Masters?

[681blade]

I just saw some pics from the first round on yahoo and Phil has the KBS shafts in play today.

[johnstone610]

Will be interesting to see him play with a high ball instead of his low laser beams.

[Lefty1987]

681blade, on 22 March 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

I just saw some pics from the first round on yahoo and Phil has the KBS shafts in play today.

Yep spotted that too, def in the irons, not sure about wedges

[Ole3wiggle]

deff has some KBS tours in play in his irons on gettyimages ...looks like project x's in wedges

[whatshannenin]

The GreekGrind, on 21 March 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:

speeder757, on 21 March 2012 - 11:55 PM, said:

Phil is testing out KBS Tours again this week.... Not sure if he will put them in play tomorrow or not......

Phil isn't testing KBS, and isn't switching shafts.  He's playing (and is completely happy with) his current PX set up.

These pictures are from yesterday at Bay Hill.  

Whatever KBS he hit or may try is only because he was playing a pro-am round.  Not much different than if you let your buddy hit one of your clubs just to try it, hit it, or if you have another set of irons with shafts different than the ones you regularly play.  

You are angry in your defense of Phil's shafts.....are you ok after he switched from the Speeder in his driver to a Diamana?  

Shot today at the Bay Hill....PX must have a new label that looks just like KBS and they must have steps.....

Edited by whatshannenin, 22 March 2012 - 01:48 PM.

[The GreekGrind]

whatshannenin, on 22 March 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

You are angry in your defense of Phil's shafts.....are you ok after he switched from the Speeder in his driver to a Diamana?

Ha, you’re missing the point, but thanks for taking the time to go find a Getty picture.  And that sounds angry to you?  Grin, no comment (other than to say it's at least less off base than the cynical comment).  

In any event, with anger or cynicism or whatever you like, let me say again, Phil isn’t playing KBS, simple as that, and it’s misleading to suggest he is.

Tour players are trying out new shafts all the time (Phil is trying KBS; and has in the past as well).  But until they actually put them in play or are considering a switch, saying they’re playing them is a bit misleading.

Kim has a job to do, a business to run; and like any other OEM, if you can get a name to try out your clubs, shafts, whatever, it’s good for business, publicity, maybe even convince someone to switch (notwithstanding that you can have specs  built from one OEM to play just like a different OEM, labels aside).

Phil plays PX on Thursday through Sunday when it counts.  That’s irrefutable.  Appreciate your effort though.

Edited by The GreekGrind, 22 March 2012 - 02:02 PM.

[zerofade]

Either you own stock in the company or you've got some kinda beef with KB.. Man such .. Passion.. Only here would someone huff and puff about refuting pictorial evidence of a golfer and his equipment.. I love golfwrx

As an aside .. It would be huge for KB to get phil to switch.. Pretty nice stable of guys that have

Edited by zerofade, 22 March 2012 - 02:06 PM.