
Busnell 1600 (tourny edition) or GX-3?
#1
Posted 13 February 2012 - 10:12 PM

#2
Posted 13 February 2012 - 11:34 PM

#5
Posted 14 February 2012 - 09:29 AM

#6
Posted 14 February 2012 - 10:48 AM
bushnell is bigger w/ horizontal hold, perhaps less prone to shake, slightly greater mag @ 7x, perhaps faster to lock on target, no blue tint, 9v battery w/ excellent life
leupold- much smaller, very solid build, oled display is great
both are great choices. the feel of each might make a difference. if you're used to bushnell, it might be harder to get used to a leupold
#7
Posted 14 February 2012 - 11:36 AM
ALTSean, on 14 February 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:
CR2 batteries are really cheap if bought online (less than $2 a piece), so don't let that necessarily deter you from a range finder that accepts that battery. Bushnell recently introduced a new model, the Tour Z6 (which suspiciously looks similar to the GX-3), which also takes a CR2 battery, to be released in April:

And as cmrl suggested, the Callaway LR550 is a great range finder too...it's faster picking up targets by a second or two over the GX-3.
And finally, though I prefer a range finder over a GPS, also to be released in April is the Expresso WR62 GPS watch, similar to the Garmin S1 but supposed to also have hazard information:

As you can tell, avgjoe is a Bushnell fan, and I'm obviously a Leupold fan...it's just a matter of what works best for you. Personally, if I were a Tour caddie, I would be using the 1600 but for everyday golf, I highly prefer the GX-3. If you can, try to get your hands on a Leupold and take a look at the red OLED...that alone, might sway you to opt for the GX-3.
#8
Posted 14 February 2012 - 04:28 PM
Bushnell warranty is 2 years, Leupold is 1 year...not sure how that is far better...
The TourZ6 is awesome by the way. Got to try one at the PGA Show in January. Red Vivid Display and fast ranging time. Very nice.
#9
Posted 14 February 2012 - 04:46 PM
Greentouring, on 14 February 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:
Bushnell warranty is 2 years, Leupold is 1 year...not sure how that is far better...
The TourZ6 is awesome by the way. Got to try one at the PGA Show in January. Red Vivid Display and fast ranging time. Very nice.
I didn't mean the length of time, I meant dealing with customer service representatives for warranty/repair services...it's been discussed ad nauseum. Leupold has been known to honor warranties (either for free or for a nominal charge) of products that are years beyond the length of their stated warranty. Just ask any owners of their rifle scopes or hunting range finders. If it's good enough for the U.S. Military to use Leupold, it's good enough for me...
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 03:58 PM

#11
Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:29 PM
#12
Posted 16 February 2012 - 09:57 PM
Greentouring, on 16 February 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:
asong77, on 14 February 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:
Greentouring, on 14 February 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:
Bushnell warranty is 2 years, Leupold is 1 year...not sure how that is far better...
The TourZ6 is awesome by the way. Got to try one at the PGA Show in January. Red Vivid Display and fast ranging time. Very nice.
I didn't mean the length of time, I meant dealing with customer service representatives for warranty/repair services...it's been discussed ad nauseum. Leupold has been known to honor warranties (either for free or for a nominal charge) of products that are years beyond the length of their stated warranty. Just ask any owners of their rifle scopes or hunting range finders. If it's good enough for the U.S. Military to use Leupold, it's good enough for me...
Ah...hate to burst your bubble but the U.S. Military also buys Bushnell Scopes, binoculars, and night vision optics.
Greentouring - I am certainly no expert when it comes to US Military and government contracts, and I read the numerous mentions about the US Military-used Leupold scopes and rangefinders on non-golf forums when I was researching Leupold as an overall company, hence the passing mention of it in my post...
I didn't know that Bushnell also supplied the US Military with optics too...and it's great that they are. But nowhere did I mention that they DIDN'T either...and now, I know, thanks to you. But question for you...did you have to inform me to that fact by being such a pr*ck?
I get it...you're a Bushnell fan...that's fine. They make great products, and if you bothered to see my first reply to OP, I even recommended the 1600 to him if he didn't have steady hands, as the GX-3 is a lot smaller and a little more difficult to pick up pins with shaky hands. I even brought up the new BUSHNELL Tour Z6 as a possible option. And finally, all I did was give my personal opinion as OP had requested in creating his thread.
Then you come in on your mighty horse and don't contribute a single thing other than to refute my opinion with a wise-a*s remark? You've been a member for 3 months, and you have 13 posts in total, and every single one has been about Bushnell. So you're either a Bushnell representative, or such a fanboy of Bushnell that you don't bother to post about any other topic outside of Bushnell. Either way, at the end of the day when everything has been said and done, there is at least one obvious and concrete fact...which is that you're a dipsh*t. Thank you and good night.
#13
Posted 17 February 2012 - 12:12 PM
asong77, on 16 February 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:
Greentouring, on 16 February 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:
asong77, on 14 February 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:
Greentouring, on 14 February 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:
Bushnell warranty is 2 years, Leupold is 1 year...not sure how that is far better...
The TourZ6 is awesome by the way. Got to try one at the PGA Show in January. Red Vivid Display and fast ranging time. Very nice.
I didn't mean the length of time, I meant dealing with customer service representatives for warranty/repair services...it's been discussed ad nauseum. Leupold has been known to honor warranties (either for free or for a nominal charge) of products that are years beyond the length of their stated warranty. Just ask any owners of their rifle scopes or hunting range finders. If it's good enough for the U.S. Military to use Leupold, it's good enough for me...
Ah...hate to burst your bubble but the U.S. Military also buys Bushnell Scopes, binoculars, and night vision optics.
Greentouring - I am certainly no expert when it comes to US Military and government contracts, and I read the numerous mentions about the US Military-used Leupold scopes and rangefinders on non-golf forums when I was researching Leupold as an overall company, hence the passing mention of it in my post...
I didn't know that Bushnell also supplied the US Military with optics too...and it's great that they are. But nowhere did I mention that they DIDN'T either...and now, I know, thanks to you. But question for you...did you have to inform me to that fact by being such a pr*ck?
I get it...you're a Bushnell fan...that's fine. They make great products, and if you bothered to see my first reply to OP, I even recommended the 1600 to him if he didn't have steady hands, as the GX-3 is a lot smaller and a little more difficult to pick up pins with shaky hands. I even brought up the new BUSHNELL Tour Z6 as a possible option. And finally, all I did was give my personal opinion as OP had requested in creating his thread.
Then you come in on your mighty horse and don't contribute a single thing other than to refute my opinion with a wise-a*s remark? You've been a member for 3 months, and you have 13 posts in total, and every single one has been about Bushnell. So you're either a Bushnell representative, or such a fanboy of Bushnell that you don't bother to post about any other topic outside of Bushnell. Either way, at the end of the day when everything has been said and done, there is at least one obvious and concrete fact...which is that you're a dipsh*t. Thank you and good night.
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FWIW, I'd feel better about a Leupold purchase long-term than a Bushnell purchase simply because of customer service.
With that being said, the products are very comparable. You're going to get virtually the same read out from either so it really just comes down to little things like size, oled, magnification, etc.
I actually ordered a brand new GX-3 from intheholegolf.com last week for $246 shipped. They were back ordered and I ended up getting an upgraded GX-3i yesterday. When I got it I noticed that there was no clip on the case that would make the case attachable to a ring on my bag so I gave Leupold a call and 7 minutes later I was off the phone and they were having a case with a clip sent my way. I know it's not a huge deal as it's just a case but that kind of service goes a long ways in my book.
I'm not saying Bushnell wouldn't do the same thing, but from what I've read on here, it's pretty much expected from Leupold. That's the kind of company I'd like to deal with long-term.
#14
Posted 17 February 2012 - 02:48 PM
asong77, on 16 February 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:
Greentouring, on 16 February 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:
asong77, on 14 February 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:
Greentouring, on 14 February 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:
Bushnell warranty is 2 years, Leupold is 1 year...not sure how that is far better...
The TourZ6 is awesome by the way. Got to try one at the PGA Show in January. Red Vivid Display and fast ranging time. Very nice.
I didn't mean the length of time, I meant dealing with customer service representatives for warranty/repair services...it's been discussed ad nauseum. Leupold has been known to honor warranties (either for free or for a nominal charge) of products that are years beyond the length of their stated warranty. Just ask any owners of their rifle scopes or hunting range finders. If it's good enough for the U.S. Military to use Leupold, it's good enough for me...
Ah...hate to burst your bubble but the U.S. Military also buys Bushnell Scopes, binoculars, and night vision optics.
Greentouring - I am certainly no expert when it comes to US Military and government contracts, and I read the numerous mentions about the US Military-used Leupold scopes and rangefinders on non-golf forums when I was researching Leupold as an overall company, hence the passing mention of it in my post...
I didn't know that Bushnell also supplied the US Military with optics too...and it's great that they are. But nowhere did I mention that they DIDN'T either...and now, I know, thanks to you. But question for you...did you have to inform me to that fact by being such a pr*ck?
I get it...you're a Bushnell fan...that's fine. They make great products, and if you bothered to see my first reply to OP, I even recommended the 1600 to him if he didn't have steady hands, as the GX-3 is a lot smaller and a little more difficult to pick up pins with shaky hands. I even brought up the new BUSHNELL Tour Z6 as a possible option. And finally, all I did was give my personal opinion as OP had requested in creating his thread.
Then you come in on your mighty horse and don't contribute a single thing other than to refute my opinion with a wise-a*s remark? You've been a member for 3 months, and you have 13 posts in total, and every single one has been about Bushnell. So you're either a Bushnell representative, or such a fanboy of Bushnell that you don't bother to post about any other topic outside of Bushnell. Either way, at the end of the day when everything has been said and done, there is at least one obvious and concrete fact...which is that you're a dipsh*t. Thank you and good night.
Wow. First let me say I am very sorry that I offended you or came off as rude. I am a big fan of Bushnell and had some exceptional experiences with their products and their employees. Notice, I did not say anything negative about you or about Leupold. I just pointed out that your reasons for supporting Leupold because the U.S. Military use it can also be said for Bushnell. I never called you names or insulted you, Leupold, or your contributions to any of the treads.
If you have an opinion about a product that is fine. I gave mine as well as some facts. I'm sorry you felt you had to insult and attempt to belittle me.
#16
Posted 17 February 2012 - 04:14 PM
I didn't know that Bushnell also supplied the US Military with optics too...and it's great that they are. But nowhere did I mention that they DIDN'T either...and now, I know, thanks to you. But question for you...did you have to inform me to that fact by being such a pr*ck?
I get it...you're a Bushnell fan...that's fine. They make great products, and if you bothered to see my first reply to OP, I even recommended the 1600 to him if he didn't have steady hands, as the GX-3 is a lot smaller and a little more difficult to pick up pins with shaky hands. I even brought up the new BUSHNELL Tour Z6 as a possible option. And finally, all I did was give my personal opinion as OP had requested in creating his thread.
Then you come in on your mighty horse and don't contribute a single thing other than to refute my opinion with a wise-a*s remark? You've been a member for 3 months, and you have 13 posts in total, and every single one has been about Bushnell. So you're either a Bushnell representative, or such a fanboy of Bushnell that you don't bother to post about any other topic outside of Bushnell. Either way, at the end of the day when everything has been said and done, there is at least one obvious and concrete fact...which is that you're a dipsh*t. Thank you and good night.
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Wow. First let me say I am very sorry that I offended you or came off as rude. I am a big fan of Bushnell and had some exceptional experiences with their products and their employees. Notice, I did not say anything negative about you or about Leupold. I just pointed out that your reasons for supporting Leupold because the U.S. Military use it can also be said for Bushnell. I never called you names or insulted you, Leupold, or your contributions to any of the treads.
If you have an opinion about a product that is fine. I gave mine as well as some facts. I'm sorry you felt you had to insult and attempt to belittle me.
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I wasn't really offended, but I did take your "sorry to burst your bubble" statement negatively. I did insult you, but only because I felt it was provoked by you, but nevertheless, I apologize for the insult and belittlement.
With that said, I still firmly believe that it's suspicious with regards to your post history. As you earlier stated, you were at this year's PGA Show, and it's kind of fishy that the only product mention from you out of the many thousands or more products at the show is about Bushnell.
And as I mentioned already, ALL 14 of your posts are ONLY about Bushnell...coincidence? You claim that you're a big fan...so Bushnell is the ONLY company/product that you're a big fan of when it comes to golf gear, equipment, and accessories? You obviously haven't chimed in on any other topics or brands. Again, I ask...mere coincidence?
I don't want to turn this into another K59-like thread, so I'll just leave it with my final opinion...if it looks like poop and smells like poop...
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I am a fairly new golfer and have only been playing for about 3 years and I only get to play once or twice a month. I do not post on most topics discussed on the forums because I do not have the knowledge of the game and techniques others who are posting do. However, as a 35 year old I am very up on technology and have a very good working knowledge of GPS and lasers. I feel very comfortable sharing my knowledge and experience with them.
I do know someone who is a golf enthusiest that has many connections with the golf courses in my area. He convinced a Buyer to get us into the PGA show. It was very cool, by the way. I will not say anything else as this is very frowned upon by the PGA.
I hope this will satisfy your investigation into my posts, but I doubt it. You seem very upset and still mad at me, so I will just again say I am sorry that I offended you and will not be posting about this any conversation any more.
#18
Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:10 PM
Greentouring, on 17 February 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:
I do know someone who is a golf enthusiest that has many connections with the golf courses in my area. He convinced a Buyer to get us into the PGA show. It was very cool, by the way. I will not say anything else as this is very frowned upon by the PGA.
I hope this will satisfy your investigation into my posts, but I doubt it. You seem very upset and still mad at me, so I will just again say I am sorry that I offended you and will not be posting about this any conversation any more.
Trust me, the last thing I'm going to get upset and mad about, is a post from a random stranger on a public Internet golf forum...I have plenty of real-world things I can get upset and mad about...
You don't need to explain yourself to me nor anyone else...and no matter what you say will satisfy my suspicion until you have a more established history. Or as you put it, "investigation"...all one has to do is click on "Find Post" under your profile to easily display all 15 of your posts (about Bushnell). Seeing is believing...at least on here.
As far as your suspect post history is concerned, nothing you say will carry much weight, at least to me...and not that you care, but until you have a few other posts on different topics OTHER than Bushnell, I don't know if you'd have any credibility with anyone else either. And that's not exclusive to you...that's how I approach any member on this site. You probably don't care what your reputation is, but even if we didn't get into a pissing match earlier, I'd still suspect all of your posts...it's absolutely nothing personal.
With that said, since you claimed that you won't be posting about this anymore, we'll leave it at that.
#19
Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:14 PM
stimpmeterp, on 17 February 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:
Leupold = Nordstrom
Bushnell = Walmart
You can get the same product at both places, but the customer service and experience is better at one. And I am the owner of Bushnell 1600 Pro w/slope.
Yeah, I know. I don't know why I keep responding to the Bushnell fanboy...sorry to get way off-track.
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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:56 PM

#21
Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:56 AM
#22
Posted 19 February 2012 - 01:12 PM
asong77, on 13 February 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:


Addressing the proverbial "shakes", if you are afflicted with Parkenson's Disease, the two handed type of RF won't be of much help to you either.
IDK how many times I suggested a good way to reduce/eliminate the "shakes" when using a GX-1,2,3,4 and now iSeries. It always seems to be overlooked for some unknown reason, the comment seems to be popping up every time the Leupold is compared to the Bushnell on this Board. SOOOoooooo.......! Here it is again:
Rest the Leupold on the FAT part of your thumb/hand, hold it with your "up yours" and ring fingers, (Gripped as if it was a handgun/riffle), don't get your pinky in the way of the lens
Furthermore, the Leupold GX-3, GX-4 are (were at the time) made in USA from a solid block of alluminium, add the O-LED and you have the best there is on the market. I pre-ordered mine three months before they were available, believe me, I did the research (even checked out the Leica, on line).
#23
Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:16 PM
Greentouring, on 14 February 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:
Bushnell warranty is 2 years, Leupold is 1 year...not sure how that is far better...
The TourZ6 is awesome by the way. Got to try one at the PGA Show in January. Red Vivid Display and fast ranging time. Very nice.
just to correct this, the gx-3 and gx-4 models have 2 years like the bushnells. the gx1 and gx2 still have just 1 yr warranty.
from leupold.com:
- 7. What is the warranty of your rangefinders?
Warranty varies by unit. Like all electronic products, failure is an inherent possibility. We take pride in the quality of our rangefinders and offer an industry leading warranty, two year warranty on our RX-1000, GX-3, GX-4 platform. The balance of our rangefinder products offer a 1 year warranty.
#24
Posted 20 February 2012 - 01:08 AM
mdgboxx, on 19 February 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:
asong77, on 13 February 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:


Addressing the proverbial "shakes", if you are afflicted with Parkenson's Disease, the two handed type of RF won't be of much help to you either.
IDK how many times I suggested a good way to reduce/eliminate the "shakes" when using a GX-1,2,3,4 and now iSeries. It always seems to be overlooked for some unknown reason, the comment seems to be popping up every time the Leupold is compared to the Bushnell on this Board. SOOOoooooo.......! Here it is again:
Rest the Leupold on the FAT part of your thumb/hand, hold it with your "up yours" and ring fingers, (Gripped as if it was a handgun/riffle), don't get your pinky in the way of the lens
Furthermore, the Leupold GX-3, GX-4 are (were at the time) made in USA from a solid block of alluminium, add the O-LED and you have the best there is on the market. I pre-ordered mine three months before they were available, believe me, I did the research (even checked out the Leica, on line).
No argument from me at all. I'm one of the biggest Leupold fans out there...just ask greentouring from this thread, if you don't believe me
I have pretty steady hands so I have no problem using the GX-3 with just one hand without even bracing myself. I've actually taught the very same thumb technique to some of my buddies who tremor like a 95 year old, LOL!
#26
Posted 20 February 2012 - 02:11 PM
mdgboxx, on 20 February 2012 - 01:52 PM, said:
No need to sell me on it...I own one. And besides, the "solid block of aluminum" might inaccurately convey that it's heavy...which it obviously is not at all.
In my opinion, there are just two things that make the GX-3 from being the PERFECT range finder...first, I would like a case that's similar to the Callaway range finders...a neoprene case/skin that fits over the body and allows you to use it while it's on the unit.
And secondly, I wish it was just a hair faster in acquiring targets...my old Callaway captured yardages almost instantly. If I never used a Callaway previously, I probably wouldn't notice any lag at all...and though it's a miniscule difference, it's definitely noticeable. Maybe this year's new model has a slighter faster acquisition time...
#27
Posted 20 February 2012 - 02:15 PM
avgjoe, on 14 February 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:
bushnell is bigger w/ horizontal hold, perhaps less prone to shake, slightly greater mag @ 7x, perhaps faster to lock on target, no blue tint, 9v battery w/ excellent life
leupold- much smaller, very solid build, oled display is great
both are great choices. the feel of each might make a difference. if you're used to bushnell, it might be harder to get used to a leupold
Whichever one you end up with make sure it has 7x magnification. It makes for much easier target acquisition. My buddy has a 5x laser and it's hard to use. I have the Bushnell and it's been flawless in the 2 years I've had it.
#28
Posted 22 February 2012 - 01:55 PM
The reviews seemed to be very positive for both the GX-1 and the GX-3 (with the OLED in the GX-3 being the big difference) so I thought I'd save a few bucks and go with the more basic model. I really would have liked to go for the GX-2 or GX-4 model but I'm afraid my fellow members would frown upon me having a non USGA compliant slope aid. Who wants to get DQ'ed from the 4th flight club championship due to a technicality!
I'm anxious to retire my smart-phone GPS app and be able to measure my distances on the range, distances to doglegs and hazards, etc!
#29
Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:45 PM
Huffer, on 22 February 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:
The reviews seemed to be very positive for both the GX-1 and the GX-3 (with the OLED in the GX-3 being the big difference) so I thought I'd save a few bucks and go with the more basic model. I really would have liked to go for the GX-2 or GX-4 model but I'm afraid my fellow members would frown upon me having a non USGA compliant slope aid. Who wants to get DQ'ed from the 4th flight club championship due to a technicality!
I'm anxious to retire my smart-phone GPS app and be able to measure my distances on the range, distances to doglegs and hazards, etc!
I have the GX 1 and the GX 3. I am a caddie so it sees a lot of use. The GX 1 is a good purchase. It works just as well as the GX 3. But the red OLED screen and the small size of the GX 3 is awesome. If you don't mind spending the extra money, I would send the GX 1 back and get the GX 3. If not, no loss. The GX 1 is very nice also.
Back to the case with the clip. I got my GX 3 in the fall, and the case has no clip. IS that case just for that newer GX 3? It would be great Leupold would send me one of those.












