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Ernest Sports - ES-12 - "Launch Monitor" - Overview


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#1 SteveDave

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:31 AM

I recently received a ES12 from Ernest Sports and wanted to give those who are not familiar with it a quick overview.  It works very well into a net (I haven't tried it at a range yet) .. take a look at the video...  I still want a FlightScope X2 but for my basement and $ this little device is pretty good to practice consistency and to get an idea of distance.  That Swingbyte looks cool too..  I wonder if combining the data from both may yield cool reference points.


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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:44 AM

That looks cool.  I would love to hear a review down the line...  Good luck.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 09:52 AM

Good vid to showcase the functionality. Seems like a good tool to help dial in your club distance.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 10:44 AM

Looks like a good product, I emailed asking for availability at the beginning of the year before they were for sale on their website. Unfortunately, I am in Canada and they are not shipping/selling north of the boarder at this time.... Maybe they need a distributor up here? lol

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 12:18 PM

Does this essentially just track ball speed and use assumed loft characteristics of the club to determine distance?  For example, if you put in PW, would it give you the same distance for any ball hit a 100 MPH regardless if the PW was 45 or 47*?


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Posted 07 February 2012 - 12:20 PM

View Postgoplutus, on 07 February 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

Does this essentially just track ball speed and use assumed loft characteristics of the club to determine distance?  For example, if you put in PW, would it give you the same distance for any ball hit a 100 MPH regardless if the PW was 45 or 47*?

That is my understanding.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:52 PM

View PostSteveDave, on 07 February 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

View Postgoplutus, on 07 February 2012 - 12:18 PM, said:

Does this essentially just track ball speed and use assumed loft characteristics of the club to determine distance?  For example, if you put in PW, would it give you the same distance for any ball hit a 100 MPH regardless if the PW was 45 or 47*?

That is my understanding.
Well, then it is only another swing or ball speed measuring device.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:25 AM

Does this take in to account ball spin?  Just curious because I'm a slicer.  If I hit a drive with a 20 or 30 yd slice is it giving me distance based my ball speed with a straight flight or can it take into account side spin?

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:59 AM

How is your distance properly calculated without spin? For instance. I can hit a big pull-cut with a high ball speed and see it drop out of the air on the range due to excessive spin. If I hit this same pull-cut on this device would it say I hit it further because of the increase in ball speed?

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 11:13 PM

No spin is calculated.  I would imagine that a big hook or slice wouldn't yield accurate numbers.


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 12:08 PM

View PostSteveDave, on 22 February 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

No spin is calculated.  I would imagine that a big hook or slice wouldn't yield accurate numbers.

So if I hit it dead straight with optimum trajectory (or the units calibrated trajectory window) then I should see accurate numbers? There is a huge carry and carry+ roll descrepency between a low ball hitter with a certain ball speed and a high ball hitter with the exact same ball speed.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:55 PM

View PostTCMP, on 23 February 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

View PostSteveDave, on 22 February 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

No spin is calculated.  I would imagine that a big hook or slice wouldn't yield accurate numbers.

So if I hit it dead straight with optimum trajectory (or the units calibrated trajectory window) then I should see accurate numbers? There is a huge carry and carry+ roll descrepency between a low ball hitter with a certain ball speed and a high ball hitter with the exact same ball speed.

that's the biggest issue I see with this.  If you swing 107 with a ball speed of 162 under perfect launch conditions (ie 14* and 2300 spin) you can easily be carrying it farther that a low launch guy with low spin or a high launch guy with high spin .. ... even if they have higher ball speeds than you
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:12 PM

Sounds tempting.  Especially at the price point.  You can find anything in that range that does what this does.

The lack of consideration of spin is concerning since it would be impt when hitting shots into a net to understand how the ball is reacting.

But, if you're on the range and can see your ball, it's a nice thought to have "someone" tell you how far you just hit that last straight shot.

Just out of curiousity, is the machine just taking into account your swing speed and iron and then giving you a distance off of that?

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 04:22 PM

View Postfonetic, on 14 March 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

Sounds tempting.  Especially at the price point.  You can find anything in that range that does what this does.

The lack of consideration of spin is concerning since it would be impt when hitting shots into a net to understand how the ball is reacting.

But, if you're on the range and can see your ball, it's a nice thought to have "someone" tell you how far you just hit that last straight shot.

Just out of curiousity, is the machine just taking into account your swing speed and iron and then giving you a distance off of that?

All this thing is doing is measuring the ball speed. It is using all calculations for the rest (distance etc.)

It doesn't measure launch angle, spin, or any impact or downrange data. Its a ballspeed monitor that uses a predetermined window for trajectory to calculate distance. There are lots of cheaper devices that do the same thing. (without the ipod, droid interface etc.)

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 04:46 PM

View PostSteveDave, on 22 February 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

No spin is calculated.  I would imagine that a big hook or slice wouldn't yield accurate numbers.

The same company has another product with Ball Spin, but $6495!  I was at the range yesterday, and someone had it!  Crazy.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 07:56 PM

View Posterwintrace08, on 31 March 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:

View PostSteveDave, on 22 February 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

No spin is calculated.  I would imagine that a big hook or slice wouldn't yield accurate numbers.

The same company has another product with Ball Spin, but $6495!  I was at the range yesterday, and someone had it!  Crazy.

http://www.sportsent...ight/index.html

Not the same company but, yea the GC2 is really nice and about the best you can get for the price.  Buddy of mine has it for his golf simulator and its awesome.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:26 PM

View Posterwintrace08, on 31 March 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:

View PostSteveDave, on 22 February 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

No spin is calculated.  I would imagine that a big hook or slice wouldn't yield accurate numbers.

The same company has another product with Ball Spin, but $6495!  I was at the range yesterday, and someone had it!  Crazy.

http://www.sportsent...ight/index.html

That's the launch monitor Titleist uses at their demo days.  It's pretty accurate.
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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:12 PM

I recently purchased this product and I have been very happy with it.  I've compared the accuracy against my laser rangefinder as well as my gps and had good results, typically only a couple of yards variance with all clubs down to the wedges.  I'm not sure if my placement is correct for the wedges with the launch angle etc.  I really like the interface with the iPhone and think that is what really seperates this product from other similar items out there.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 06:59 PM

There are two discount codes for it... $12 OFF

ES12  or  MYTPI

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:48 AM

I have one of these as well but strangely it does not work well for me.
I usually hit my 8 iron about 150 to 158 yards and I have used this device on the range several time including today and the maximum distance I can get out of this is about 135. I have sent this back to them to test out but they said it was perfectly fine and sent me back a new one anyway.
Just today I was practicing at the range and I use my bushnell to zap the 150 sign to make sure it is 150 and I hit a 8 iron landed pass the sign but the machine read 137.
I have try putting the ball in different positions but it all comes out lot less than actual distance.
It's perfect to practice with thinking you are hitting shorter than you really are, it will make you feel better on course...... I guess!
BTW, I have a Zelocity as well although the ball speed is the same the distance calculation is way off. Zelocity is much more accurate.


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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:38 AM

View Posthotcello, on 27 November 2012 - 01:48 AM, said:

I have one of these as well but strangely it does not work well for me.
I usually hit my 8 iron about 150 to 158 yards and I have used this device on the range several time including today and the maximum distance I can get out of this is about 135. I have sent this back to them to test out but they said it was perfectly fine and sent me back a new one anyway.
Just today I was practicing at the range and I use my bushnell to zap the 150 sign to make sure it is 150 and I hit a 8 iron landed pass the sign but the machine read 137.
I have try putting the ball in different positions but it all comes out lot less than actual distance.
It's perfect to practice with thinking you are hitting shorter than you really are, it will make you feel better on course...... I guess!
BTW, I have a Zelocity as well although the ball speed is the same the distance calculation is way off. Zelocity is much more accurate.
Hey,
What model is your Zelocity?

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:19 AM

Not all irons have the same loft. A burner 2.0 iron vs a mp 52 would be + - 4 degrees per club.




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