spencer096, on 07 February 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:
im less offended by levin smoking and more offended that someone finds a dude on tv, most likely thousands of miles away, smoking a cigarette is offensive. there are bigger problems to worry about that some dude being shown smoking a freaking cigarette on tv, it has nothing to do with golf and it's a total first world problem. why do you care? seriously...why? because you have to say something to your kid that takes 15 seconds? because some dude on tv is not living his life to your exacting specifications? holy crap.
bill hicks says it best...
"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your [redacted] mouth."
im sorry if im coming across as offensive or callous, especially so if someone you cared about was affected by a smoking-related disease (for example...my father, who hasn't quit despite decades of my family's efforts), but do you really care what spencer levin does with his own life? if you don't like smoking, why not write a letter to levin encouraging him to quit instead of bashing him and treating him like he's a worse person simply for a vice? sure, it's unhealthy, but so is fast food and air pollution and too much exposure to the sun...if someone wants to enjoy tobacco, they know the harm it causes by now. same with red meat and alcohol and recreational drugs, etc etc etc.
and it's HORRIBLE for levin to be shown smoking a cigarette but it's fine for prescription drug companies to air commercials for their products WHERE DEATH IS ONE OF THE SIDE EFFECTS LISTED during the very same telecast?!?!?! and that's for a freaking anti-depression drug, not even something that's fighting a life-threatening disease. hypocritical...that's infinitely more offensive than someone burning one down.
im not a smoker, and unless someone's blowing smoke in my face, i really don't care if they do. you have the ability to change the channel, to not watch, to start an anti-tobacco movement...whatever...you also have the ability to control what offends you. neither you or anyone you know is getting cancer from watching spencer levin smoke a cigarette during a golf tournament...let people live their lives however they want and reserve your judgement for things that actually matter.
i appreciate this post. its nice to hear objective views once in a while. I am not sure if you are responding to my OP or kind of addressing the overall discussion that has been going on here. I agree its not the worse thing in the world to smoke a cigarette while golfing. And yes I myself live thousands of miles away from
Phoenix. Am I offended by Spencer smoking, not at all. I don't blame him. He has the right to smoke. But what I disagree is that people's fundamental flaw in their arguments is that these players are out playing for recreation. This is their job, they play for a paycheck. When they sign contracts with sponsors their job is to represent their company and their product. These players dont have a right to smoke while on the job, they are allowed to by the PGA. Yes most companies give employees smoking breaks but if a surgeon has a surgery that is 8 hours can he just tell everyone he will be right back he needs to go out for drag.
And I actually agree with you about advertisers, the sad fact of the matter is it comes down to money, to an extent. I mean you dont see the Marlborough Open or Philip Morris Classic. Thereís a reason for that,
it gives a bad message. I feel the reason they dont care about the smoking on the course is because they don't see it hurting them monetarily wise. When/If it does then Iím sure you will see a different reaction.
And to the people who say kids aren't influenced by seeing players smoke. When Tiger became a pro golfer
and saw him bring the training aspect of the game, how many kids did he influence then. Look at all these young kids joining the tour now, they are bombing the hell out the ball winning tournaments and they all work out and take care of themselves because that is what Tiger did. Now put a cigarette in Tiger's hand and if he could still achieve the accomplishments he has while being a smoker I can guarantee you you would see alot more of these young players smoking.
Now Spencer Levin is not nearly as influential as Tiger, but donít tell me smoking on tour does not have an influence on these young kids who someday want to be a pro golfer.