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[J_D]

^ I said I don't have as much lag as they do, and I don't add loft, I just don't lag enough, big difference.

And if I spent the time I spent here yesterday and today playing golf I would be more sick than I already am, upper respiritory infection, not supposed to go outside.

And I appreciate it, I'm going to work on my lag but I've got to get a few other little things sorted out first, I definitely would benefit from more lag (one reason that I don't hit my irons as far as my SS might allow).

I think that once I get the shortgame better (it's been improving some) and get the belly putter down 100% I'll be into the mid 80's due to the occasional OB shot or getting into a bunker that's tough to get up and down from.

The angle that Drijver is showing for me is a 90* angle, that's about 3 inches after impact, and the club and my hands are perfectly even, so it shows that I don't have enough lag, yes, but it also shows that I do not flip, because if I flipped at impact the club would be in front of my hands, and it is perfectly in line, no loft is added or subtracted from that club.

[Shaank0]

NewGeneration, on 24 April 2012 - 10:34 AM, said:

^ I said I don't have as much lag as they do, and I don't add loft, I just don't lag enough, big difference.

And if I spent the time I spent here yesterday and today playing golf I would be more sick than I already am, upper respiritory infection, not supposed to go outside.

And I appreciate it, I'm going to work on my lag but I've got to get a few other little things sorted out first, I definitely would benefit from more lag (one reason that I don't hit my irons as far as my SS might allow).

I think that once I get the shortgame better (it's been improving some) and get the belly putter down 100% I'll be into the mid 80's due to the occasional OB shot or getting into a bunker that's tough to get up and down from.

The angle that Drijver is showing for me is a 90* angle, that's about 3 inches after impact, and the club and my hands are perfectly even, so it shows that I don't have enough lag, yes, but it also shows that I do not flip, because if I flipped at impact the club would be in front of my hands, and it is perfectly in line, no loft is added or subtracted from that club.

Id just stop talking about it with people here,  You posted pictures and people feel the need to comment and criticize without any validity to it. Your a new golf who is progressing a lot faster than most, keep doing the things you and your coach

are doing. by responding to these guys, your just egging them on to continue to tear you down.. I would simply say " Ill keep this in mind, thank you for the comment".  This will get you far in life.

[J_D]

Thanks man. That definitely would have been an easier route... So. New topic.. G20 or RBZ Tour? Can't afford the i20, and more PING staffers are playing the G anyway.. I was smashing my friends R11. And the G20 does look a little big..

[southpaw72]

NewGeneration, on 24 April 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

Thanks man. That definitely would have been an easier route... So. New topic.. G20 or RBZ Tour? Can't afford the i20, and more PING staffers are playing the G anyway.. I was smashing my friends R11. And the G20 does look a little big..

I think you answered your own question. . Why not try the r11 more and the r11s if you liked it?

[J_D]

I don't think I can order the R11 with the R11s RIP Phenom 60X... RBZ seems like a pretty close driver though right?

[Shaank0]

NewGeneration, on 24 April 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

I don't think I can order the R11 with the R11s RIP Phenom 60X... RBZ seems like a pretty close driver though right?

Id get fitted, to be honest, call around see if anyone does discounts for juniors.

I just got fitted and picked up  a ton of yardage,.... until my swing went to sh*t.

id also add that for some reason I found the I20 to be more forgiving the G20, dunno why.

Edited by Shaank0, 24 April 2012 - 07:55 PM.

[HoosierHacker89]

look at the cleveland classic drivers too. the 290 is a boss.

[J_D]

I've been fitted and honestly the stuff that would make a difference for me is way out of my budget, I had a ping fitting and was fitted for an 8.5 i20 with the PING Tour shaft in X flex, but it was flying lower than I liked, so I was thinking G20 with the PX Black 6.5 that is light and smooth in 8.5 loft..

I really liked the cleveland but I hate the look of it, if it was black I'd be all over it..


Probably down to the RBZ Tour or G20. I'll hit the RBZ Tour tomorrow after school, and if I don't boom it, then I'll order the G20, and if I absolutely smash it, then I'll order it..

I would stick with the 910 but I don't feel like dishing out 120 for a good shaft, and the RIP 80 is just a macho man swing shaft, and I am not man enough for it's macho-madness.






Macho Madness!!!

Edited by NewGeneration, 24 April 2012 - 08:12 PM.

[baseballfrk8998]

I hit the RBZ Tour 9* / HD6 great at a fitting a couple months ago. Check that combo out.

[J_D]

Isn't that the TP model though?

[DGolferx15]

Dude R11 with a motore 65 aka r9 stock shaft. Perfect combo at least for me that is creating bombs for me albeit my bombs are 265 270 yours are 300 plus. R11 is a great driver.

[baseballfrk8998]

NewGeneration, on 24 April 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

Isn't that the TP model though?

Yeah.. Or you can find a head and shaft separately on here and not have to pay retail. All the RBZ Driver heads take any of the TM adapters.

Edited by baseballfrk8998, 24 April 2012 - 08:57 PM.

[J_D]

I'll definitely look into that, but knowing that PING kicked out my MP-68's, and my Vokey's, I think I might just blind order a G20 8.5 with the PX 6.5 shaft, 44.5" at D2 SW and I'd have a forgiving, low spinning, and BUBBA LONG combo... I hit my buddies Motore 65 and all I could do was balloon it

I'm gonna buy it new, because I'm trying to put an end to all my ho-ing, and I know it's not gonna happen, but the next thing I'll do is probably get an S-56 3 iron same specs as my set to see if I like, only 112 for that.. And I'll probably add a Tour-S 52* wedge to my bag too.

When you hit the RBZ, what kind of flight was it producing? I like a high flight that hits and runs.. Well.. Who doesn't?

Last really good driver combo I had was an SFTP 1.0 that was 11 degrees with hotmelt in the toe and 1 open, High flat bombs that got me to places I haven't been since it broke..

Edited by NewGeneration, 24 April 2012 - 09:25 PM.

[baseballfrk8998]

I was hitting the RBZ with a mid to high flight and some roll.. I was carrying it 265-275 outside with like 2600 backspin.

I think maybe you should find another SFTP 1.0. I have one and it is the best driver I've hit thus far.. Newest doesn't necessarily mean best.. Not to mention the SFTP is very forgiving!

Edited by baseballfrk8998, 24 April 2012 - 10:15 PM.

[J_D]

Currently going through a very slow pending sale.. I hope the buyer doesn't fall through so I can actually order a new driver.. I was hoping to call in my order today or tomorrow so let's hope that I can make it tomorrow..

[Cameron Circle T]

Could order one of these R11's - several shaft options in X flex including the Fubuki Alpha 70, the kai'li 80 and the rip beta 60 and 70. 3balls usually has pretty decent deals.

http://www.3balls.co...DRIVERS-RH-USED

[J_D]

Cameron Circle T, on 24 April 2012 - 11:00 PM, said:

Could order one of these R11's - several shaft options in X flex including the Fubuki Alpha 70, the kai'li 80 and the rip beta 60 and 70. 3balls usually has pretty decent deals.

http://www.3balls.co...DRIVERS-RH-USED

You have any experience with them? They've got an 8* with RIP Beta 60X in like new, I'm scared I'd get ripped off.

[baseballfrk8998]

http://www.golfwrx.c...-tourneys-sale/

There's you a G20

[J_D]

baseballfrk8998, on 25 April 2012 - 07:13 AM, said:

http://www.golfwrx.c...-tourneys-sale/

There's you a G20

Unfortunately 100 more than I have.

[Cameron Circle T]

NewGeneration, on 25 April 2012 - 06:48 AM, said:

Cameron Circle T, on 24 April 2012 - 11:00 PM, said:

Could order one of these R11's - several shaft options in X flex including the Fubuki Alpha 70, the kai'li 80 and the rip beta 60 and 70. 3balls usually has pretty decent deals.

http://www.3balls.co...DRIVERS-RH-USED

You have any experience with them? They've got an 8* with RIP Beta 60X in like new, I'm scared I'd get ripped off.

Yeah thats where I got my driver, 3 wood and hybrids from. The guy is a pro from some club in Mass and started 3balls since the courses are closed for like half the year. He sells a loooooot of stuff. I've never had a problem with them - they're really easy to deal with.

The like new clubs are usually brand new and part of taylormades asset recovery program. They're either old stock from places that return them when new stuff comes out, custom orders that got returned without being hit and never sold, etc.

Edited by Cameron Circle T, 25 April 2012 - 10:05 AM.

[billysandy]

I think you are way too into your figures and equipment. You are spending all this money (probably not your money) on all this gear that's not suited to you (blades? seriously?) and you are not even single figs. Not trying to dishearten you, or trying to make you feel like you are a bad player, but I think you need to think solely about getting better - not all this mid kick loq kick high torque stuff. If you have talent (and sense), you will hit anything and not feel you have to get a new club to be better.  
You are buying all these new clubs... why? Because you can, not because it's the best thing for your game. If you still feel the need to be a club hoe, just get fitted @ a fitting centre for all your gear, and stick with it.
Man up and get some game improvement irons that will help your game.
Tinkering with your putter, perhaps wedges, fine, they are very much personal preference for any average player, but tinkering with the long end of the bag isn't gonna make you a better player, it just makes most people think you are a kid with too much of someone else's money, without the game to match it.
Some of you better players and golf addicts out there - I bet this guy is like some kind of proving ground for you! You recommend the stuff you like for him to buy and get to see the sweet pics, but you all deep down feel the same way.
(I stress at this point that I am not just hating on this guy, it looks as if he has the commitment but he is going about parts of it the wrong way)

Sorry but I know many of you are thinking of this but don't want to annoy admin, just unfortunate that I am the one that has to say it.

[Hambone1]

I typically avoid getting involved in nonsense like this, but feel like I have some insight that is relevant to this comment, billysandy. I have talked at length with NG about his equipment, swing, and golf "path" for lack of a better term, after he and I did a club swap last fall. This kid, and I do say kid as he is a high school freshman, is a very impressive young man. He has a good head on his shoulders, while he sometimes falls into the nonsense that is common among kids his age, he is a good kid who loves golf. He eats, breathes, and sleeps golf. Now is he a little wrapped up in his sticks, yeah. But ultimately, having a driving interest at his age is what will keep anyone from burning out. I have told him numerous times to slow down on the ho'ing, however if that's the worst problem he has at his age, and he or his family can afford it, more power to him. I won't bore you with pulling out statistics of high school kids doing all kinds of incredibly stupid stuff, however lets say golf club hoing is probably near the bottom.

If you take the time to view his videos, and were more informed about his game, your commentary on his clubs would be obvious to you as mindless drivel. His ballstriking is quite solid, while he would probably be better with a player cavity, the blades aren't hurting him. His short game is atrocious, and if he could improve his chipping and his putting, his handicap and scores would much more reflect his abilities. And ultimately, I think a group of mostly grown men, with larger discretionary income than most, have better things to do with their time than try to get some high school kid to buy clubs so they can see pictures. Google images can take care of that if you are in need.

[SDC10]

lot of action.  Lot.  Of.  Action.

[J_D]

Thanks Eric. No need to reply to billysandy on my part. CCT, are your woods ARP gear? I've heard of some bad situations with ARP gear. But the R11 8* with beta 60x is a thing I'm looking into very much right now.

[billysandy]

Hambone1, on 25 April 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

I typically avoid getting involved in nonsense like this, but feel like I have some insight that is relevant to this comment, billysandy. I have talked at length with NG about his equipment, swing, and golf "path" for lack of a better term, after he and I did a club swap last fall. This kid, and I do say kid as he is a high school freshman, is a very impressive young man. He has a good head on his shoulders, while he sometimes falls into the nonsense that is common among kids his age, he is a good kid who loves golf. He eats, breathes, and sleeps golf. Now is he a little wrapped up in his sticks, yeah. But ultimately, having a driving interest at his age is what will keep anyone from burning out. I have told him numerous times to slow down on the ho'ing, however if that's the worst problem he has at his age, and he or his family can afford it, more power to him. I won't bore you with pulling out statistics of high school kids doing all kinds of incredibly stupid stuff, however lets say golf club hoing is probably near the bottom.

If you take the time to view his videos, and were more informed about his game, your commentary on his clubs would be obvious to you as mindless drivel. His ballstriking is quite solid, while he would probably be better with a player cavity, the blades aren't hurting him. His short game is atrocious, and if he could improve his chipping and his putting, his handicap and scores would much more reflect his abilities. And ultimately, I think a group of mostly grown men, with larger discretionary income than most, have better things to do with their time than try to get some high school kid to buy clubs so they can see pictures. Google images can take care of that if you are in need.

Not sure if you actually read my post? First paragraph of your reply is all irrelevant, I clearly said that I am not discouraging him from playing the game. Comparing club ho'ing to other high school kids activities? Really? Not relevant. Essence of my post was put more time into improving, don't feel like getting new gear the entire time is going to be the key to improvement. And yes, technically blades would be hurting him, there's not a chance that he could go a round without the small sweetspot of a blade hurting his ballflight. If he is commited to improvement, he should just bite the bullet and buy game improvement irons. At HIS standard, blades are for show, and more likely because they look nice. I did something similar - bought some MP52s, realised after a few weeks that they weren't improving my game, and the least I could do was give myself the best shot at not getting worse (reverted back to MX200s).

[Hambone1]

billysandy, on 25 April 2012 - 11:49 AM, said:

Hambone1, on 25 April 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

I typically avoid getting involved in nonsense like this, but feel like I have some insight that is relevant to this comment, billysandy. I have talked at length with NG about his equipment, swing, and golf "path" for lack of a better term, after he and I did a club swap last fall. This kid, and I do say kid as he is a high school freshman, is a very impressive young man. He has a good head on his shoulders, while he sometimes falls into the nonsense that is common among kids his age, he is a good kid who loves golf. He eats, breathes, and sleeps golf. Now is he a little wrapped up in his sticks, yeah. But ultimately, having a driving interest at his age is what will keep anyone from burning out. I have told him numerous times to slow down on the ho'ing, however if that's the worst problem he has at his age, and he or his family can afford it, more power to him. I won't bore you with pulling out statistics of high school kids doing all kinds of incredibly stupid stuff, however lets say golf club hoing is probably near the bottom.

If you take the time to view his videos, and were more informed about his game, your commentary on his clubs would be obvious to you as mindless drivel. His ballstriking is quite solid, while he would probably be better with a player cavity, the blades aren't hurting him. His short game is atrocious, and if he could improve his chipping and his putting, his handicap and scores would much more reflect his abilities. And ultimately, I think a group of mostly grown men, with larger discretionary income than most, have better things to do with their time than try to get some high school kid to buy clubs so they can see pictures. Google images can take care of that if you are in need.

Not sure if you actually read my post? First paragraph of your reply is all irrelevant, I clearly said that I am not discouraging him from playing the game. Comparing club ho'ing to other high school kids activities? Really? Not relevant. Essence of my post was put more time into improving, don't feel like getting new gear the entire time is going to be the key to improvement. And yes, technically blades would be hurting him, there's not a chance that he could go a round without the small sweetspot of a blade hurting his ballflight. If he is commited to improvement, he should just bite the bullet and buy game improvement irons. At HIS standard, blades are for show, and more likely because they look nice. I did something similar - bought some MP52s, realised after a few weeks that they weren't improving my game, and the least I could do was give myself the best shot at not getting worse (reverted back to MX200s).

My first paragraph was a statement in reaction to what I viewed as an implied snideness to your overall post. It just came off snarky, and without any real purpose. You seemed to imply that a) he was throwing around someone else's money, and b) that he was all show and no go.

Yes, technically blades could be hurting him, same could be said for every golfer, anywhere in the world. NO golfer hits it pure every shot, every time, Tiger Woods, Hogan, Mickelson, you name it, they all miss it slightly at some point. Yes, that is taking your argument to the extreme, but if the guy hits them well enough, so be it. And in terms of your perceived lack of direction and desire to improve, I can tell you from first hand experience that NG has a desire to improve that I wish 99% of golfers could have. The kid constantly messages me with swing questions, thoughts, ideas, the like. He has sought out a well respected coach to work with, and works his a** off to improve.

Edited by Hambone1, 25 April 2012 - 12:47 PM.

[Hambone1]

All that being said, I don't feel it is appropriate to clog up NewGeneration's WITB with any more of this, billysandy if you feel the need to continue this conversation, please feel free to PM me. Otherwise, back to it gents.

[RedSide]

from your swing vids and the clubs you have I would have never thought you were a 19. One of the best 19 hcp's ive seen.

[billysandy]

Hambone1, on 25 April 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

billysandy, on 25 April 2012 - 11:49 AM, said:

Hambone1, on 25 April 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

I typically avoid getting involved in nonsense like this, but feel like I have some insight that is relevant to this comment, billysandy. I have talked at length with NG about his equipment, swing, and golf "path" for lack of a better term, after he and I did a club swap last fall. This kid, and I do say kid as he is a high school freshman, is a very impressive young man. He has a good head on his shoulders, while he sometimes falls into the nonsense that is common among kids his age, he is a good kid who loves golf. He eats, breathes, and sleeps golf. Now is he a little wrapped up in his sticks, yeah. But ultimately, having a driving interest at his age is what will keep anyone from burning out. I have told him numerous times to slow down on the ho'ing, however if that's the worst problem he has at his age, and he or his family can afford it, more power to him. I won't bore you with pulling out statistics of high school kids doing all kinds of incredibly stupid stuff, however lets say golf club hoing is probably near the bottom.

If you take the time to view his videos, and were more informed about his game, your commentary on his clubs would be obvious to you as mindless drivel. His ballstriking is quite solid, while he would probably be better with a player cavity, the blades aren't hurting him. His short game is atrocious, and if he could improve his chipping and his putting, his handicap and scores would much more reflect his abilities. And ultimately, I think a group of mostly grown men, with larger discretionary income than most, have better things to do with their time than try to get some high school kid to buy clubs so they can see pictures. Google images can take care of that if you are in need.

Not sure if you actually read my post? First paragraph of your reply is all irrelevant, I clearly said that I am not discouraging him from playing the game. Comparing club ho'ing to other high school kids activities? Really? Not relevant. Essence of my post was put more time into improving, don't feel like getting new gear the entire time is going to be the key to improvement. And yes, technically blades would be hurting him, there's not a chance that he could go a round without the small sweetspot of a blade hurting his ballflight. If he is commited to improvement, he should just bite the bullet and buy game improvement irons. At HIS standard, blades are for show, and more likely because they look nice. I did something similar - bought some MP52s, realised after a few weeks that they weren't improving my game, and the least I could do was give myself the best shot at not getting worse (reverted back to MX200s).

My first paragraph was a statement in reaction to what I viewed as an implied snideness to your overall post. It just came off snarky, and without any real purpose. You seemed to imply that a) he was throwing around someone else's money, and b) that he was all show and no go.

Yes, technically blades could be hurting him, same could be said for every golfer, anywhere in the world. NO golfer hits it pure every shot, every time, Tiger Woods, Hogan, Mickelson, you name it, they all miss it slightly at some point. Yes, that is taking your argument to the extreme, but if the guy hits them well enough, so be it. And in terms of your perceived lack of direction and desire to improve, I can tell you from first hand experience that NG has a desire to improve that I wish 99% of golfers could have. The kid constantly messages me with swing questions, thoughts, ideas, the like. He has sought out a well respected coach to work with, and works his a** off to improve.

Without any real purpose?
I wanted to tell him he would be best not tinkering with his kit every 2 seconds, and to just have a set of clubs that he hits well, job done (avoid the settling in phase everyone has when encountering new clubs (and thinking new clubs are going to solve his problems)). I think you are perceiving my post wrong, reading it with bias. You said he should cool down on the ho'ing, so did I. Can't deny that. Never doubted his commitment when it comes to practice and such.
I am aware that technically blades hurt everyone. Please don't try and bring likeness to a 19capper and Tiger Woods. That's an irrelevant comparison.

[baseballfrk8998]

Billy has a good point. Hambone has a good point.

All the equipment changes are going to make it difficult for NG to improve regardless of how good his swing is. He needs to get equipment he's comfortable with and stick to it.

On the other hand, he obviously works hard at his game. It's shown by his swing videos.

The life of a ho is difficult!