Driver 9.5 or 10.5 - much difference in distance and control ?
Posted 20 January 2012 - 08:37 AM
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Posted 20 January 2012 - 08:47 AM
Posted 20 January 2012 - 08:59 AM
Long story, sold it and got a pre-owned 10.5* K15 and was my driver last summer. More fairways with it. Still launches too high for my liking, but with the 9.5*, the slicing was too often and the few times that I was long and in play with it was way too few to keep it.
Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:52 AM
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Ping Redwood Anser, 34"
Posted 20 January 2012 - 02:05 PM
One example: 10.5° with Blueboard 63S gives me near perfect launch monitor numbers for my swing speed and also works really well on the course. If I put this shaft in the 9.5° head, the ball flight is simply too low to give me the same overall length.
In order to get the same sort of launch with the 9.5° head, I have to put the stock made for Cobra "Redboard" in R-flex in. But that combination is extremely inconsistent and I hit it all over the place.
Posted 20 January 2012 - 02:20 PM
Posted 28 February 2012 - 12:12 PM
Afie, Ping is notorious for having an actual measured loft of up to 3° higher than what is stamped on the sole. In recently had a conversation with a guy who had his 10.5° G15 measured and it turned out to be just over 13° actual.
Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:24 AM
Posted 16 March 2012 - 01:28 PM
Posted 31 March 2012 - 07:32 AM
i could NOT agree more!!!!
Edited by AGBear, 31 March 2012 - 07:33 AM.
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 02:25 PM
Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:45 PM
if your 10.5 degree driver is 25 yards less than your 9.5 degree driver why even bother with a 10.5 degree driver? if you are swinging well (playing your sunday best haha) you can use your 9.5 superdeep and get maximum distance but if your swing is a little loose that day just use a 3 wood and get the added benefit of loft and straightness and be about 25 yards behind your 9.5 superdeep.
note: i am making a big (but reasonable) assumption that a 3 wood is about 25 yards less than a driver.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:43 AM
1) Indoor Launch monitors no matter if they are Trackman or some older vector is not the same as going to the course, during a round and hitting a shot.
2) Indoor monitors show more yardage than outside, they also mask slicing/hooking somewhat.
2) On an Indoor monitor I always hit a 9.5 or 10.5 farther, on the course I have control issues.
3) Taylormade and Ping drivers are normally from 1.5-3 degress higher than stamped.
For me I play a r9 460 11.5 (actial 13 degree with a Stiff Matrix HD6 or a 10.5 Cobra Encore Xl with a Firm Matrix HD6. Short, quick and 88-92 range swing spped.
Your mileage will vary.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 09:52 PM
Posted 01 June 2012 - 09:44 AM
Does that one degree make much difference in carry, overall distance, and control ?
Which worked better for you?
A change in driver loft will not achieve the same result for all golfers because of the relationship between loft and swing speed and angle of attack.
For a golfer with an 85mph swing speed and a downward angle of attack, a move from 9.5 to 10.5 will result in a tiny bit more carry distance. But for a golfer with a 110mph swing speed and upward angle of attack, a move from 9.5 to 10.5 will result in a distance LOSS.
With regard to you asking about driver loft vs control, for 99% of all golfers, a change of 1* only on the driver would have minimal to no effect whatsoever on control. Control is a matter of club length + the face angle of the clubhead + the shaft weight + the swingweight + the grip size ( and for golfers with a later release, the shaft's flex and bend profile contributes to control as well).
For ALL GOLFERS, the best driver loft for maximum distance has to be carefully matched to the golfer's combination of clubhead speed + their angle of attack + the firmness/wetness of the fairways where they play most of their golf. And really, the only way to get that for sure and to avoid a costly trial and error process is to be properly fit by a good, experienced custom clubfitter.
Posted 03 June 2012 - 02:59 AM
Posted 04 June 2012 - 10:33 AM
Absolutely, positively, loft is the first most influential element on backspin. Clubhead speed is #2. The higher the loft, the more backspin is generated on the shot and the higher the clubhead speed, the more spin is generated for any given loft on the shot.
As a benchmark of reference for this, all other things on the club being equal, for a 100mph clubhead speed with a driver, for each 1* loft increase, spin increases by around 250 rpms and vice versa. For lower clubhead speeds, the RPM change is less for each 1* change in loft. For higher clubhead speeds the RPM change per degree change in loft is more.