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Stiffest shaft you've ever seen/played


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#31 Towelieeee

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 05:29 AM

Stiffest I ever had was a Penely hybrid heater prototype in a tour issue idea pro 18*. Before I had ever even hit it my buddy asked me skeptically if I even could. Landed about 6 ft from the pin from 210 or so out.... never hit another good shot with it. Ended up giving to another friend of mine who is quite the power house. He was complaining about it being stiff as a telephone pole. Pulled the grip off and it was XX stiff or something stupid like that.

But at least I shut that kid up with the first hit. Must have gotten my adrenaline flowing :)

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#32 jokerusn

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 05:56 AM

I'm playing PX7.0 now and finding a shaft stiff enough is usually my problem. BUT, the stiffest shaft I've ever played is a Matrix Infra Hybrid.  I like the feel of boardy shafts (like the RIP) but this thing is an I-beam. I feel 0 flex from it at all.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 06:38 AM

Read on here somewhere that a Ping rep somewhere built a rh version of Bubbas driver and was letting some guys try it. I have never seen it or played it but from reading the post no one could get the ball off the ground with it!
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 09:36 AM

Rip boardy? I'm getting rid of mine at the moment out of my Titleist because it's so weak?

Who else here thinks the Rip is boardy?

Honestly stumped by this one as I can't control this shaft at all??
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 10:15 AM

View PostTKing, on 12 January 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

View PostTyler Harris, on 12 January 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

View Postpdaero, on 12 January 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

Two shafts come to mind for me, and I'm much more "mortal" than some of you. :rolleyes:  One day when I wasn't swinging well, the Devo 7 05 was absolutely rebar. Couldn't get it to flex.

The one I'm really thinking of is the Cleveland Fuji Fit-On Red X flex shaft in an older XL Tour. That thing was absolute rebar!
I love my DEVO! I play the 6 06 and it's great, It just got kicked out of the bag though lol


Have you sold the Devo 6 6 yet?  I'd be interested in trying it.
Im holding on to it for wet days as I carry it further. Right now I've been playing a lot with my "scramble" shaft so that I can get more roll, it's a long drive optimized grafalloy blue 3x that I play at 48". I play the Oban at 44.5 and I'll switch back to that when winter is over.
I'd highly recommend it if you find one at a decent price. For a 60 gram shaft it has the best feel of any haft I've ever played and keeps my usually sky high flight down to an acceptable height.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 10:33 AM

Never played it, but a buddy of mine bought a LD shaft somewhere, where I have no clue. It's already playing as XX, he measures it out and decides it's 4" too long. What does he do, class? Yep, you guessed it, he tipped it 4" without knowing what he was doing. He was playing said shaft in a 9.5° driver and was quite excited that this thing was going to absolutely bomb it. I saw him hit roughly 10 tee shots with it, each one of them moles were ducking at 100 yards from this white satanic round beast that was being blasted through the air no more than 20 feet off the ground at its highest, then rolling for 50 yards at least. To this day it's one of the funniest golf related things I've seen. Every time we play, by the end of the round he's teed off and someone has told him to "get the Sadlowski driver out."

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 11:52 AM

Thread needs to be ressurected. Anyone have experience with the tour ad m/p 9003 series? Does that series belong into this discussion.

Been hitting well but balooning my tour ad bb recently. Any of you guys ever swung your own "stiffest everz but still playable and amazing ballflight" driver shaft?

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:12 PM

i have an oban devotion 8, x stiff tipped 1" in my hybrid and it's pretty mufuggin stiff lol i swing quite hard 113-118 on course (driver SS) -- and this hybo doesn't move.

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:15 PM

View Postbaronfaroo, on 12 January 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:

View Posttbomb, on 12 January 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

I take a good rip at it around 112-115 and honestly....

Graffaloy Prolaunch Red X - which is on the firmer side of the flex charts.

I had it in a 9* PING G10 and I can honestly say, I only ever hit that driver good once.

I was talking on the phone with my cell phone provider before I got to the course and I was trying to fix a BIG mess, I ended up being on the phone until the 3rd hole and I was so mad, I ripped at one at it went forever. Smooth 325 up hill. The other 200 drives...not even close. lol

Shaft was a beast.

+1.  Nothing but low fades with a Grafalloy Prolaunch Red X in a 909D2.

I've been using Grafalloy Prolaunch in X for 6 months or more in all my woods / Hybrids. I swing at approx 112-114mph with a brisk transition. So not 'silly' quick by any means.

In my drivers i play it tipped 1/2" - 3/4" and have no trouble drawing it or fading (My more normal shape). I also like lighter swing-weights which stiffens the flex up a bit too. But i do like a stiff feeling shaft for sure....

I was warned this was hyper stiff; but i dont find it any stiffer or boardier than a Tipped UST V2 for example which i also used extensively a few years ago.


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Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:42 PM

I have a House of Forged Ultra XXX-flex that cpm'd 276 @ 50". It is butt trimmed and plays 46" in my X2 Hot 5.5* head. That is the stiffest I've played.

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 02:02 PM

A Motore Speeder VC 9.2 TS X.
It was a solid piece of rebar.
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Posted 28 December 2015 - 02:55 PM

Bought a PX X-7a3 pull a few years back.  Turns out it was tipped about 2 1/4".  I still have it in an Adams A4 head, and played it for about 2 years.  Definitely need to bring the heat to feel any amount of loading.  When I was in a bit better shape I could hit into the low 120's but I've since dialed it back.

Anyone know what the CPM would be on this shaft tipped that much?

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 03:04 PM

In my youth I played a 43" persimmon driver with an X-300 shaft but the stiffest driver I ever hit was a MacGregor metal made for Greg Norman. He liked to be able to release it as hard as he could without fear of a hook. He had it with that driver.

For irons, the DG X7 shafts are the stoutest I've hit.

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 03:18 PM

Fujikura Motore F1 4.0 tipped 1 inch in a 3 wood...wow...drove a 295 yrd par 4 with it! Serious firepower!
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Posted 28 December 2015 - 03:50 PM

In the late '80s, Bridgestone put a crazy stiff and low torque shaft in their J's Professional Weapon.  My buddy was a pretty hard swinger and played an R in that club that felt like a stout S.  The stiffer flexes were ridiculous with that tiny, top weighted head.  They used a lot of boron in the tips of the higher end shafts back then with torque ratings in the low 1* range in some cases.  Swing a little (gray, dimpled) 7.5* Burner with an Aldila HM-55 X flex and you'll never complain about the lack of forgiveness in any modern driver head.

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 03:59 PM

Hmmm. I might be weird, but the only times I notice a shaft being "too stiff" are when I am not swinging well. If I put a good swing on the ball, it is rare I even notice flex unless the shaft is a complete noodle.
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Posted 28 December 2015 - 05:26 PM

I used to play the Matrix HD10 XX in my fairway woods.  That was pretty stout.

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 07:37 PM

House of Forged. A step above rebar.
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Posted 29 December 2015 - 12:15 AM

My driver shaft is an RIP Alpha 80x tipped an inch. My 4w shaft is an RIP Alpha 90x tipped an inch. Does that get me on the WRX list?

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 12:30 AM

Played a scramble with a guy who had a grafalloy Prolaunch blue... it was marked stiff. I was curious, cuz he was built like the Rock and swung it with no reservations. I asked him about it, he said that he tipped it "as much as he could". I couldn't try it out (lefty problems), but i can only imagine the boardiness of it.

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 01:08 AM

A set of black gold extra stiff. Felt like a 2x4 to me.
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Posted 29 December 2015 - 04:08 PM

View Postphase3golf, on 13 January 2012 - 09:36 AM, said:

Rip boardy? I'm getting rid of mine at the moment out of my Titleist because it's so weak?

Who else here thinks the Rip is boardy?

Honestly stumped by this one as I can't control this shaft at all??

He's probably talking about the RIP Alpha, super low torque (what makes 'em feel "boardy") in the heavier shafts. The Beta and Gamma versions were much higher torque and felt much smoother per flex.

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 04:59 PM

View PostRi_Redneck, on 29 December 2015 - 04:08 PM, said:

View Postphase3golf, on 13 January 2012 - 09:36 AM, said:

Rip boardy? I'm getting rid of mine at the moment out of my Titleist because it's so weak?

Who else here thinks the Rip is boardy?

Honestly stumped by this one as I can't control this shaft at all??

He's probably talking about the RIP Alpha, super low torque (what makes 'em feel "boardy") in the heavier shafts. The Beta and Gamma versions were much higher torque and felt much smoother per flex.

BT

I don't know what the other guy was talking about, but I was talking about the Alpha. I've heard a lot of people complain about it being boardy, but I just love it. Ordered a 105x to try in a hybrid.

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 05:07 PM

Played a proforce prototype that was tour X and the stated cpm was 296, installed in a bore through 983e head.

Current driver shaft is an Altus lt XX FLEX but it doesn't feel that gnarly. Actually the only shaft I've swung that I felt was too stiff was a 90x rip, it just felt dead and like doesn't feel any load
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Posted 14 February 2017 - 10:40 AM

View Postvman, on 12 January 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

My friends PX 7.0 iron shafts are like a solid steel bar to me,just feel horrible and he has a 1 inch tipped Grafalloy Blue X in a 44 inch driver with 7.5* which he hits high but just worm burners for me.

sounds like Stenson's specs from a few years back


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:45 AM

I swung a couple of long drivers with HoF XXX flex and one with a UST XXXX flex. Both were built to 49.5" LDA length so they don't really play as stiff as you would think. Still felt like rebar and I had a 125 mph swing speed at the time with driver.
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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:55 AM

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 12:27 PM

Threadomancy!!!   LOL

But what the hell, I'll play.

Back in the day, Graphite Design used to have a shaft called the D03.  It was heavy (over 90g IIRC), super low torque (1.5°?), and was a full flex stiffer than the flex designation.  It didn't just play that way, it really was stiffer.  :)

A local 2nd Swing shop had gotten a Precept 260LS driver that had a D03 installed, in XX flex.  If you wanted, you could take a few swings in the cage.  I'd been playing a Composite Dynamics HP/M Tour shaft in 2X flex, so I thought I'd give it a shot.  I hit it about four or five times and felt like I'd just spent an afternoon as a muy thai sparring dummy.

I can't imagine the swing of someone who would need a stick like that...

Edited by NRJyzr, 14 February 2017 - 12:28 PM.

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Driver:  Tour Edge XCG7 Beta, Fuji Motore F3 80 X, 43.5"
3w:  Cobra King LTD, Motore F1 85 X, 42.5"
2h:  TM Stage2 Tour, NV105 S
2-PW, Golden Ram Tour Grind, Dynamic S
SW:  Acer XB 58*, DGS300 tipped
Testing:  4-SW Pinhawk SL irons, DGS400, 37" (oh my!), w/Maltby 60° LW
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34.5", PP58 midsize grip
(Cleveland Huntington Beach #1 35" -or- Mizuno TPM-2, 35" as backups)
Balls:  in no particular order...  Wilson Staff FG Tour, Duo Urethane, or 50 Elite, Srixon ZStar/ZStar XV
   will trot out Maxfli HT-100 or Elite 90 from time to time
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Posted 14 February 2017 - 01:50 PM

View PostNRJyzr, on 14 February 2017 - 12:27 PM, said:

Threadomancy!!!   LOL

But what the hell, I'll play.

Back in the day, Graphite Design used to have a shaft called the D03.  It was heavy (over 90g IIRC), super low torque (1.5°?), and was a full flex stiffer than the flex designation.  It didn't just play that way, it really was stiffer.  :)

A local 2nd Swing shop had gotten a Precept 260LS driver that had a D03 installed, in XX flex.  If you wanted, you could take a few swings in the cage.  I'd been playing a Composite Dynamics HP/M Tour shaft in 2X flex, so I thought I'd give it a shot.  I hit it about four or five times and felt like I'd just spent an afternoon as a muy thai sparring dummy.

I can't imagine the swing of someone who would need a stick like that...

You're an animal...I remember some of the rebar you used to have back in the day. Hahaha
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Posted 14 February 2017 - 02:41 PM

View Postjll62, on 14 February 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

View PostNRJyzr, on 14 February 2017 - 12:27 PM, said:

Threadomancy!!!   LOL

But what the hell, I'll play.

Back in the day, Graphite Design used to have a shaft called the D03.  It was heavy (over 90g IIRC), super low torque (1.5°?), and was a full flex stiffer than the flex designation.  It didn't just play that way, it really was stiffer.  :)

A local 2nd Swing shop had gotten a Precept 260LS driver that had a D03 installed, in XX flex.  If you wanted, you could take a few swings in the cage.  I'd been playing a Composite Dynamics HP/M Tour shaft in 2X flex, so I thought I'd give it a shot.  I hit it about four or five times and felt like I'd just spent an afternoon as a muy thai sparring dummy.

I can't imagine the swing of someone who would need a stick like that...

You're an animal...I remember some of the rebar you used to have back in the day. Hahaha

I'd have rather taken the scores you were generating than the shafts I was using.   Damn ugly tempo   LOL

The Ever Changing Bag!

Driver:  Tour Edge XCG7 Beta, Fuji Motore F3 80 X, 43.5"
3w:  Cobra King LTD, Motore F1 85 X, 42.5"
2h:  TM Stage2 Tour, NV105 S
2-PW, Golden Ram Tour Grind, Dynamic S
SW:  Acer XB 58*, DGS300 tipped
Testing:  4-SW Pinhawk SL irons, DGS400, 37" (oh my!), w/Maltby 60° LW
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34.5", PP58 midsize grip
(Cleveland Huntington Beach #1 35" -or- Mizuno TPM-2, 35" as backups)
Balls:  in no particular order...  Wilson Staff FG Tour, Duo Urethane, or 50 Elite, Srixon ZStar/ZStar XV
   will trot out Maxfli HT-100 or Elite 90 from time to time
Shoes by True Linkswear

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