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[The General]

wish they would offer custom grinds. The 60 V grind is money. I have a new black one but dont want to hit it, its too purdy But I will eventually.

[Mitch Cumbstein]

AP2 712, on 05 January 2012 - 06:48 AM, said:

I'm surprised there is no oil can offered

They look like the 2011's, the 2010's, the 2009's, and 2008's.  Come on BV and Titleist.  How about something new, and better for us golf nuts!

[bldolat]

I love them.

[FATC1TY]

Mitch Cumbstein, on 05 January 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

AP2 712, on 05 January 2012 - 06:48 AM, said:

I'm surprised there is no oil can offered

They look like the 2011's, the 2010's, the 2009's, and 2008's.  Come on BV and Titleist.  How about something new, and better for us golf nuts!

The grooves were changed in every year, save for the 08 and 09.

If it's the looks you want.. It's a wedge, not a whole lot to do with it. If you want gizmo's hanging off of it, TM makes a decent wedge I hear.

[pdaero]

I really like these! I thought about getting the first CC TVD wedge, but decided to wait for the SM4. Now, I'm trying to decide between a stock 58* SM4 and TVD. On that note, how are the TVD wedges better if, say, I left it blank (i.e. no customization)? AFAIK, the 58* has a sort of M-grind which is what I am looking for - more versatility compared to the straight-edged 60* I have that doesn't have the same feel.

[Doc Mcstuffins]

The black ones are mine!

[rpmsooner]

Sean25rp, on 05 January 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Jasper7, on 05 January 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

Beleive it or not I like the Brushed Silver with no stamping at all, just love the Clean simple look

Me too! This sounds stupid but that wedge in the pic looks like it would feel soft to me. Must be the way it looks.

Your eyes don't deceive you. There is something about this finish. It is the softest available. It is a simply wonderful feeling wedge.

[mljones99]

thought about ordering a set last year but they won't let me order them at the specs I need (3* up and +1.5")

[FATC1TY]

mljones99, on 05 January 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

thought about ordering a set last year but they won't let me order them at the specs I need (3* up and +1.5")

Holy heck those are some odd specs. That wedge has to be so far upright...

Grow too much?!

[mljones99]

FATC1TY, on 05 January 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

mljones99, on 05 January 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

thought about ordering a set last year but they won't let me order them at the specs I need (3* up and +1.5")

Holy heck those are some odd specs. That wedge has to be so far upright...

Grow too much?!

i'm tall.  i play all my irons and wedges at those specs.

[newportbeach]

Humm those look real nice.  I'm thinking a clean brushed chrome just like that pictured in 50, 54 and 58.

Edited by newportbeach, 06 January 2012 - 12:33 AM.

[notzj1701]

pearls24, on 05 January 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

Looks great but starting at $160 for a cast wedge is way too expensive to me.   You can't tell me these perform that much better then a Scratch 8620 which is under $100 with any stampings you want?  I am not a Vokey hater so don't go there.  I played Vokey's for years before I started playing forged wedges (Mizuno, Nike VR Pro, Scratch raw 8620, etc.).

These aren't cast wedges buddy, they're forged.

[KPH808]

I will be putting in a order for the Tour Chrome, 50 and 58. Already have a 54* TVD CC I bought through BST.

Like FATC1TY said above, I'm thinking the same thing, going to 50 54 58 or 50 54 59, having the 58 bent to 59. Not sure yet.

[kevcarter]

notzj1701, on 06 January 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

These aren't cast wedges buddy, they're forged.

IMO, being cast takes nothing away from the quality and performance of these great wedges. Just do not want to encourage the spreading of misinformation.

Kevin

Edited by kevcarter , 06 January 2012 - 08:58 AM.

[Doc Mcstuffins]

Cast indeed. I've had TVD's and M grinds in the bag for almost four years now, and they are perfection. I'm highly sensitive to feel and have always played mizzies. Vokey's pair very nicely with any soft forging.

[Big Ben]

Another bump for TVD's, love my wedges...BB

[Fornesto]

man the black ones look nice too bad theyre so expensive for a cast club? c'mon

[pearls24]

notzj1701, on 06 January 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

pearls24, on 05 January 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

Looks great but starting at $160 for a cast wedge is way too expensive to me.   You can't tell me these perform that much better then a Scratch 8620 which is under $100 with any stampings you want?  I am not a Vokey hater so don't go there.  I played Vokey's for years before I started playing forged wedges (Mizuno, Nike VR Pro, Scratch raw 8620, etc.).

These aren't cast wedges buddy, they're forged.

100% Cast.  

[pearls24]

kevcarter, on 06 January 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

notzj1701, on 06 January 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

These aren't cast wedges buddy, they're forged.

IMO, being cast takes nothing away from the quality and performance of these great wedges. Just do not want to encourage the spreading of misinformation.

Kevin

Thanks Kevin- I agree they are beautiful and I bet they perform great.  Feel is so subjective so there is no right or wrong in terms of someone's preference.  As I stated, I wasn't bashing them as I haven't even tried them yet.  Just simply commenting on the price point.  They have their niche and they are very successful.  But at those prices one could get Miura wedges, etc.

[kevcarter]

pearls24, on 06 January 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

kevcarter, on 06 January 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

notzj1701, on 06 January 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

These aren't cast wedges buddy, they're forged.

IMO, being cast takes nothing away from the quality and performance of these great wedges. Just do not want to encourage the spreading of misinformation.

Kevin

Thanks Kevin- I agree they are beautiful and I bet they perform great.  Feel is so subjective so there is no right or wrong in terms of someone's preference.  As I stated, I wasn't bashing them as I haven't even tried them yet.  Just simply commenting on the price point.  They have their niche and they are very successful.  But at those prices one could get Miura wedges, etc.

It's all good. Not too many rights and wrongs in the game of golf. It's ALL about preference!

Kevin

[scratchswinger]

Two questions:
1. Can the black PVD be stripped and the heads made raw?
2. Why do I see many pros playing the 200 series as their gab wedge and the TVD as their sand and lob?
Thx

[scottvw13]

scratchswinger, on 07 January 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

2. Why do I see many pros playing the 200 series as their gab wedge and the TVD as their sand and lob?
Thx

My guess would be less spin

Edited by scottvw13, 07 January 2012 - 05:10 PM.

[paul1406]

scratchswinger, on 05 January 2012 - 12:50 PM, said:

What is the grind difference between the 200 series 50° and TVD 50°? I have noticed that many pro's use the 200 Series for their gap wedge. Anyone know why?

The TVD series seems to have a more rounded grind than the 200 series. Logic tells me pros want a little more bounce taking 3/4 to full swings with the approach wedge on a soft fairway. That's my guess maybe somebody can give a better answer.

[AP2 712]

It is the 11th... I do not see them on their site.....

[orlen]

scratchswinger, on 07 January 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

Two questions:
1.    Can the black PVD be stripped and the heads made raw?
2.    Why do I see many pros playing the 200 series as their gab wedge and the TVD as their sand and lob?
Thx

1.  See that was my issue with not having an oil can offering.  Someone mentioned that the PVD is the same way and can be transformed back into a raw head.  I'm guessing it involves more then salt water/ coke and 1 overnight soaking....so I probably won't go that route personally.  But like you, very intrested to see if thats possible!

2.  I'm guessing it has something to do with how the 200 series looks/feels/preforms in comparison to the TVDs for full shots. (since most use gap wedges for full shots)  Since TVDs have the more versitle grinds and etc. it provides more value around the green?  That would be my educated guess.

Edit: spelling prior to coffee is difficult for me

Edited by orlen, 11 January 2012 - 08:45 AM.

[c8vny]

AP2 712, on 11 January 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

It is the 11th... I do not see them on their site.....

they are waiting for server updates etc etc, no specific time

[jjl]

I play the black oxide TVD, it's not a PVD finish.  The black oxide finish is unplated, so to me feels just as soft as a raw or oil can wedge and will rust a little, and most of the finish on the face wears off with use.  I've played the oil can finish as well, prefer the looks of the black oxide.

[pdaero]

What is the difference between the SM4 and SM4 TVD, especially in the 58*? Does anyone know? I'm sure it has to do with the difference between grinds.. The main reason I'm getting rid of my 60* is because it doesn't have a very playable grind.. The stock SM4 58.09 has a grind, too..

[FATC1TY]

The Black Ox finish will wear. It's not PVD. It's a deeper black and will wear relatively easy. Bad ball strikers need not apply, you'll wear marks all over the face!!

However... The finish can be taken off pretty easily for a raw wedge, so I might actually go that route to get my raw TVD's.

[scratchswinger]

FATC1TY, on 11 January 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

However... The finish can be taken off pretty easily for a raw wedge, so I might actually go that route to get my raw TVD's.

Have you done this?