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[hryhorchuk]

Tournament Course @ Redstone-- Humble, TX 7422 YDS from the tips in wet conditions.

Shot 86 (47/39) that b**** was rough...

[Johnny Biarritz]

hebron1427, on 05 December 2012 - 11:52 AM, said:

RTJ Capitol Hill "The Judge" from the tips...

78.5/147, 7813 yards. Par 3s of 250 and 265, all carry over water (the tees are not on the scorecard, but were there when i played). two 700-yard+ par 5s.

water everywhere

I played the Judge (along with the other two, btw) on Thursday. It's most certainly extremely difficult from those back tees. But (at the risk of Animal coming and saying I don't know what I'm talking about or just like to bash the Trail) some of the par 3's are simply idiotic from the back tees. The 6th hole is 231 to an island green. The 16th is 256 yards to a green on a peninsula with a bunker in front of the green and the entire land area is only about 35 yards deep. From the white tees, even the orange tees, where everyone plays, the course is fine. But from the back markers, it gets stupid. Plus, the par 3's are kind of like Groundhog Day anyway. And the 11th hole was just bad from the back tees. However, after all that running the course down...I liked the 1st hole quite a bit, has a ton of options off the tee if you take enough time to look for them. 18th hole is very good as well, some friends of mine don't like the waterfall, but they have to get water from the top of the property down somehow, might as well make it look cool. I also really liked 10 from the back markers, 711 yards. I'd play it again, that's for sure, but yes, it's really hard.

[Titleist-Golfer]

Ko'olau Golf Club in Kaneohe, Oahu, Hawaii

Golf at Ko’olau Golf Club

Listed by Golf Magazine as one of the “Top 100 Places You Can Play,” and ranked seventh on Golflink.com’s “Top 100 United States Golf Courses” in 2008-2012, Ko’olau Golf Club has earned a place as one of the most unique and beautiful golf experiences in the United States. Designed by renowned course architect Dick Nugent in 1992, the 7,310-yard 18-hole golf course seamlessly incorporates the surrounding landscape and beauty into its layout—using ravines as the target for holes and large sand bunkers as deterrents to wayward shots. Although Ko’olau has rightly earned its reputation for being one of the most challenging courses in the nation when playing from the back tees, there are  four other sets of tees to choose to match your level of play. With scenery second-to-none, Ko’olau Golf Club offers something for everyone. Golf in Hawaii would not be complete without visiting and experiencing Ko’olau Golf Club.

SLOPE 153

Edited by Titleist-Golfer, 16 January 2013 - 01:50 PM.

[Dead Solid Perfect]

This is tough subjective question.  I guess Oakmont was the toughest course I played but I played very well there. My home course is 7500 from the tips and is a Pete Dye,  I've played a ton of rounds there and a few times a year I step all the way back.  From the tips she's all you want.

[NCGolfDude]

Kiaweh - Ocean course- Beautiful Summer day but the wind was 20 to 30 all day- I kid you not.  I will never forget absolutely killing a 4 iron dead into the wind and the shot was less than 150--- so windy my playing partner and I had to shout to talk to one another- yup- that windy.

Tot Hill Farms was mentioned by a few people here-It's a short course, so you get there and look at the scorecard and thin,"Man, what's the big deal?".  The vast majority of the shots you'll hit there have a very small margin for error-- Many of the holes, if you miss the fairway or green you're either in streams or riccocheting off of rocks and boulders or in awkward stances in steep faced bunkers..  Mid to low single digit golfers won't see near the trouble that a 10+ handicapper will.  It will demoralize the guy who routinely shoots 80 or 82 on his home course and goes to Tot and probably won't break 90.  There are so many holes that a "newbie" can easily get a triple or higher--- mistakes are just uber penal there.  The par three's are ranked the easiest on the course, but man if you miss the green on them you are probably sunk.  Sure is a fun track though and I've played there at least 20 times.

Another North Carolina course that's long and tough is Tanglewood Championship course.  Long knockers will read the yardage and won't think it will be that tough-  7050 yards, but it's a par 70 and several of the holes leave you with 200 yard shots into shallow greens- and a couple have a big difference in elevation (just a few though).  Add to that 2 of the par threes are 235 and 243 and both have water left and right next to the green.  Can't recall exactly how many bunkers there are but I know there are over 100 and you'll be in them.

The course is fun from Blue tips- but be sure to play from the Gold marker plates--  7050 yards, 75.6 hcap, 143 slope, par 70.  I know everybody on here say play from the tees according to your hcap-- but even if you're a single digit guy, playing for the back markers and coming out well is very hard to do unless you're consistently hitting 290+ drives.

Love the course, but she's a toughy from the Championship plates.  Just my .02

[Deceptively Short]

Carnoustie in a gale - probably 30-40mph winds. It could barely be called golf. No clue as to whether you could carry the little burns that cross the course with any given club due to the gusting wind. I played the Ocean course of middle'ish tees on a breezy day and it was a piece of cake compared to Carnoustie in a wind. For sheer tough design Les Bordes in Frnace is a beast, though beautiful - if you can break 80 off the back tees you get your name on an honours board in the club (there are very few on it and they are almost all European Tour Pros).

[agray94]

Doral Blue Monster. May not have been the longest but it was the hardest. Of course this was 25 years ago and it was our first rounds of the season, which didn't help. I left around 60 balls there that week(throughout Miami)

[RustyWedges]

Tour18 in Dallas
Riverside in Arlington, TX - might not be the hardest but I hate the place

[jptruck]

Ocean Course, by far.   The Medalist in Jupiter is an easy second.  Torrey Pines was also a brute, and round out the list with Baltusrol lower and Pinehurst #2