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Pros with a 4 wood...why?


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#1 alessio

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:13 PM

Hi everyone,
I watch Bubba, Alvaro Quiros and other pros hit 4 woods. For amateurs to hit a 17fw maybe a good choiche because it's more easy to hit than a 15fw and the distance is similar, but why some pros play with a 4 wood?

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:19 PM

To hit to a specific distance.  Size of head.  Some are bent open which reduce the effective loft.  A 16 bent two degrees open is about 15 degrees or a tad less.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:24 PM

Remember how far they (Pros) can hit it. Their 2,3,4 irons go farther than many people's 3 wds. Also, they bend, shape, alter clubs to fit lofts needed not a number on the club. Bubba? Hell, he probably hits that 4 further than most tour guys hit 3's.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:29 PM

 richard t, on 05 December 2011 - 03:24 PM, said:

Remember how far they (Pros) can hit it. Their 2,3,4 irons go farther than many people's 3 wds. Also, they bend, shape, alter clubs to fit lofts needed not a number on the club. Bubba? Hell, he probably hits that 4 further than most tour guys hit 3's.

Uhhh...you mean hits his 4 wood farther than most hit drivers?  :rolleyes:
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:33 PM

It's a confidence thing as well, Hogan always carried one. A very versatile club.


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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:43 PM

braging rights. i can hit my 4W farther than you can hit your 3W.



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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:46 PM

Yeah.. the longer guys don't need a 3 wood because it would probably create too much of a distance gap. Heck, Bubba and Alviro hit their 4 woods like 280.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:46 PM

I think it might be to fill the gab between 3 and 5 wood so they can carry another wedge.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:46 PM

It's also just an easier club to hit.  I can't hit a 3 wood to save my life.  But I can hit a 17 degree 4 wood better than any 3 wood I've had.  Pro's don't want to make the game harder if they don't have to.  That's why a bunch of them use hybrids.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:55 PM

I agree.  I can hit great shots with my tisi 17* (labelled a 5 wood).   Off the tee and deck it is solid and LOOOONG.  The 3w off the deck is a dodgy club for me as a steep swinger

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 04:07 PM

 henricogolfer, on 05 December 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

It's a confidence thing as well, Hogan always carried one. A very versatile club.

True, but Hogan's 4 wood probably had about 19-20** of loft, similar to what a 2 or 3 hybrid is today

Bubba and Quiros probably use one simply because they like the way it performs, the trajectory and distance.  Let's face it those guys are so long that if they carried a 3 wood it would probably be too long to hit into par 5's, and using a 3 wood off the tee would get them into trouble when they were trying to lay back, since they would hit a 3 wood as long as most hit a driver.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 04:12 PM

It fits the yardage gap better than a 3 or 5 wood.  Or they hit it better than a 3 or 5 wood, or hybrid.  Each time I hear a pro talk, it's obvious there is a reason for everything in their bags.  If there isn't a reason, it's not there.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 04:32 PM

I'm a HUGE fan of 4 woods with shorter shafts, if the face is a bit open which most better players prefer then the actual loft is more in line with a standard 3 wood. I agree with SHIVAN, no chance it's there by accident...BB

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 05:23 PM

Some of the pros use a 4 wood with a 3 wood shaft. They can hit them as far as their normal 3 wood but can choke up on it and take a little distance off.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 05:39 PM

If you look closely many pros now play 3 and 4 woods - crane, quiros, Webb Simpson, Sean o'hair, Mcilroy (when he was using 910f) etc 3 of these guys also use a 21* hybrid. It seems sensible to go 13.5-17-21 for yardage gaps.

I struggle myself with consistency with 3 wood off the deck but need one off the tee, so I'm considering a 13.5fd, 17f


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Posted 05 December 2011 - 05:40 PM

Because it allows you to only have one fw in the bag, opposite your driver. "Fewer-woods-equals-great-player-let-me-intimidate-you" kind of thing. :diablo:
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 07:54 PM

those guys are very long, i think it's just as simple as they hit 3 woods too far to truly be useful. I faced the same problem on my old course, it was 6500yds and i could reach all of the par 5's with less than 3 wood. There was also a short par 4 where 3wood was too much off the tee. It actually made more sense to carry a 16-17 degree hybrid

i think that's what these guys face. 3 wood is too long for most situations
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 08:26 PM

I love a 4 wood, and while I might never had considered it as my only fairway, after a season of playing a 13* and 17* I find that my 17* gets all the play (praticularly when I am hitting the driver well).

Off the deck it is a no brainer and I find 17* to be the perfect loft and when I hit several 13* and 17* shots off the tee (same clubhead and shaft), I hit the 17* almost as far.  I'm not ready to leave the 13*, but with the 17* working and the driver working, what was my favorite club (13*), kind of seems expendable.  

Anyway, I don't think you have to me a monster off the tee to have a driver and 4 wood set up work.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:04 PM

 MadGolfer76, on 05 December 2011 - 05:40 PM, said:

Because it allows you to only have one fw in the bag, opposite your driver. "Fewer-woods-equals-great-player-let-me-intimidate-you" kind of thing. :diablo:

I would say "Fewer-woods-equals-more wedges"

I'm nowhere near being a pro but I carry a 4 wood instead of a  3.
For me it goes just as far.
And any gaps in distance at that range dont bother me too much.
It means I can carry 47, 52, 56 & 60 wedges.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:10 PM

I use a 3 wood because it was cheap. if someone were to offer me a G15 head in 17* with my shaft I would say yes. I got my i15 for a steal and I can rip it 260+ or,230ish. Depends on the swing. Only hit 1 par 5 green with it since I got it. Got to within 15-30 yards of them in 2 with it, but only actually hit 1 green. Usually I have an iron into a green or a lie that wouldn't permit any type of wood.


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Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:24 PM

I'm not a pro but I realized that the distance between my 3 wood and 5 wood was negligible and I was playing way too much of a finesse game with my wedges since I was only carrying 2. Now I have a 4 wood that I hit basically as far as my 3 wood with a bit more control. Also the 4 wood is a closer gap to my 3 iron. Now I'm going to be able to carry a 3rd wedge and give myself more options where it really counts...SCORING!!!
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 10:20 PM

Maybe their reason is the same as mine, you can find them for a lot cheaper on ebay yet there's not a very big difference in distance.  Yup....I'm certain that's it.   :rolleyes:
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 11:37 PM

I can hit my 4 wood very nearly as far as my three wood, but the best part is that I can get at worse lies with the 4 wood than with the 3 wood.

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 11:45 PM

Probably to fill some sort of gap. Personally I've struggled with hybrids in teens but I love my 20* Clk. Just added a 4w (17*) and have no problems whatsoever. Had to add a 13* 3wod to get everything to even out.
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Posted 05 December 2011 - 11:53 PM

I hit my 4w further than a 3w because I hit it more solid.  The shaft is shorter too so it feels like a hammer.

So I'm sure pros are of the same belief.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 01:30 AM

Make your clubs fit your game, pro or not.

I use a 4W as my only FW. I use an Exotics CB4 Tour 16.5 degree 4W. It's a titanium FW that goes farther than most 3Ws. I can hit it long, but I can also hit it high to cut corners on par 5s. It's great on short par 4s. My next more loft club is a 19 degree hybrid. Even though there is on 2.5 degrees difference in loft, because the 4Ws distance, the yardage gap is more like 4 degrees (traditional.) I carry 4 wedges and have pretty much all my distances covered.

I'm no pro, but as a 1 to 2 handicap, I'd say I have a little skill and knowledge. My guess is the pros do the same thing, only a lot better than I can. I don't have my FWs or hybrids bent. Though my hybrids are adjustable - 910h.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:49 AM

Bubbas 4 wood #'s
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 04:51 AM

Bubbas G20 Driver  #'s as well.
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Posted 06 December 2011 - 05:05 AM

Quite often the "pro" or "tour" models have stronger loft than what would be standard. I have an old callaway Hawk Eye Ti 4-wood as my only wood club besides driver. But since it's the "pro" version it has 15 degrees of loft, which is standard 3-wood loft..Just like you see all those 3+ wood at 13 degrees that actually are 2-woods.

The 4+ (or pro, tour etc etc) wood keeps the 4 or 5 woods more compact appearence, something the pros like, but has less loft at 15 degrees. So, I'd say it's not because they are easier to hit, but because the pros like the smaller, compact look, hardly a feature in the "what makes a club easier to hit" book.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 09:01 AM

It seems to have more to do with head shape. The 4 wood is normally a little smaller model and when bent open the way a lot of guys have them they play 15 degrees anyway.

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