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Posted 15 October 2006 - 01:43 AM

Grafalloy ProLaunch Red:

Developed for players seeking a flatter, penetrating trajectory, ProLaunch Red combines the launch monitor tuned performance of ProLaunch technology with key performance attributes from the original ProLite 35, the most popular ultralite shaft of all-time. The shaft incorporates Grafalloy’s proprietary Micro-Mesh™ tip technology to strike the perfect balance of tip stiffness, stability and spin control while preserving critical feel for valuable feedback.

The new ProLaunch Red captured another title at the European Tour’s Deutsche Bank Players' Championship of Europe on July 30th. The champion, armed with ProLaunch Red, fired a final round 67 for a four round total of 263 and a comfortable four shot victory. The win places the champion well inside the top 10 on the European Ryder Cup points list as well as in the top 50 in the Official World Golf Ranking.



* Low ball flight counterpart to the original ProLaunch
* The ultimate combination of power and tour-caliber trajectory built upon the unequalled performance benefits of ProLite 35 — the winningest graphite shaft of all time!
* Proprietary Micro-Mesh™ tip technology provides lower torque for greater stability while offering superior feel at impact compared to other low trajectory, tip-stiff composite shaft designs.
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Posted 18 October 2006 - 01:58 PM

This shaft is awesone, stiff shaft 45 inch. I had it put in Cleveland Comp. Carry 260, very good roll even in cold northern michigan. I had been plugging fairway till now.

Update 12-3-06 I had control issues with some hooks (lite weight shaft used to TT dgs). I changed left hand to a stronger position results were better with a power fade more control. The feel in the back swing is nice can feel where the club head is.
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Posted 03 January 2007 - 09:39 PM

I am having mixed feelings about this shaft. I recently replaced the NVS with a prolaunch red in my retail FT3 tour. It does launch the ball lower than the NVS but not much, I would not consider this a low launch shaft as claimed on their website. This is what I like to call a blue collar shaft; inexpensive gets the job done nothing fancy. I personally found this shaft to play about a half flex weak. 7 out of 10
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Posted 21 June 2007 - 10:38 AM

i went to titleist day yesterday and tried this in stiff. felt quite good but my swing speed was not up to it despite the demo man continually giving me stiff shafts. i have swing speed of 95mph with driver and carry of about 210-215 yards and tend to not have too much trouble with control. anyone know a good shaft for that combo?
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 08:51 AM

This shaft did as much to stop my drives from ballooning as any shaft I have used. I'm a high spin high launch player. It's a good shaft for me.
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Posted 12 August 2007 - 09:59 AM

blue collar shaft, gets the job done and not too flashy is an excellent description. Lowered my ball flight, however I would not call it a low launching shaft, more like mid-launch might be more accurate.
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Posted 09 September 2007 - 07:32 AM

I have to agree with some of the posts above - this was not a low launch shaft for me. That said, it did perform well, giving plenty of carry and roll.
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Posted 11 September 2007 - 06:15 AM

Reshafted my 906 f2 15 degree with the 75g Stiff FW Prolaunch red. Launch is probably mid, but launched it lower than thr 75 s NV, and found it a lot more stable. Overall a much better shaft. Pitched the green with my 3 wood this weekend. 297 yards carry, 30 feet drop in elevation. Proof enough for me. (cool).
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Post icon  Posted 24 September 2007 - 12:36 PM

A follow up for this shaft, i noticed a creeking noise and shots pushing out to the right. i had the head removed and a crack in the tip about 2 inches. trading in for 85 nt.
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Posted 26 October 2007 - 10:28 AM

Man I love this shaft. Killing it doesnt say it. Its an awesome addition to the blue and prolaunch
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Posted 04 November 2007 - 09:31 AM

Finally received my D2 in 8.5 deg, with Prolaunch Red S. Matches my 906F2 perfectly. Had the same set-up in the driver with the VS Proto. PL Red is very solid at impact, and ballflight does not baloon on me. Carry is about 15 yards longer with plent of roll. Was worth the wait.
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 08:14 AM

My buddy suggested this shaft to me, and I'm considering it...

I play a burner 9.5, and with the stock shaft on it, my spin rate is approx 5k+ when I hit the ball. My ball just goes up and up and upand just dies, like I had a sniper rifle and knocked it out of the sky.

Anyways, has anyone used this shaft with a Burner driver?

Pete
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 09:07 AM

View Postripsid, on Apr 11 2008, 11:14 PM, said:

My buddy suggested this shaft to me, and I'm considering it...

I play a burner 9.5, and with the stock shaft on it, my spin rate is approx 5k+ when I hit the ball. My ball just goes up and up and upand just dies, like I had a sniper rifle and knocked it out of the sky.

Anyways, has anyone used this shaft with a Burner driver?

Pete


If your spin rate is over 5k you'll need a lot more help than the Red. I'll spare you the swing lectures i always see but you'll need at the very least less loft, a substancially lower spinning head and shafts akin to the whiteboard, vista tour etc. Maybe one heavier than you use now.
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 09:10 AM

I just put one in for a customer and really brought his launch angle and spin rate down, he loves it! :friends:
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Posted 11 April 2008 - 09:35 AM

View PostQegurezi, on Apr 11 2008, 10:07 AM, said:

View Postripsid, on Apr 11 2008, 11:14 PM, said:

My buddy suggested this shaft to me, and I'm considering it...

I play a burner 9.5, and with the stock shaft on it, my spin rate is approx 5k+ when I hit the ball. My ball just goes up and up and upand just dies, like I had a sniper rifle and knocked it out of the sky.

Anyways, has anyone used this shaft with a Burner driver?

Pete


If your spin rate is over 5k you'll need a lot more help than the Red. I'll spare you the swing lectures i always see but you'll need at the very least less loft, a substancially lower spinning head and shafts akin to the whiteboard, vista tour etc. Maybe one heavier than you use now.

I was told the white board as well, but it's the cost that I'm afraid will stop me from getting a new shaft. The $$'s is the biggest thing and I know that 90% of the Diamana's on fleabay are fake.

As far as the swing, I've tried to stop all those faults like hitting down on the driver etc and I've changed that. I just know that I've hit the ball on the screws and if it goes 250 I'm luck right now with this driver the ball just climbs like Ishot it out of my 60mm mortar! LOL and with no roll at all. I'm playing a v1x hoping that would help, but it's all about the tool...me and the club! LOL



View Postblade_man, on Apr 11 2008, 10:10 AM, said:

I just put one in for a customer and really brought his launch angle and spin rate down, he loves it! :friends:


What was his spin rate? swing speed etc?
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Posted 22 May 2008 - 12:34 AM

I'm going to pickup this shaft in the Stiff flex, will update my thoughts at a later date :clapping:
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Posted 27 May 2008 - 03:27 PM

Im with you buddy, except my spin rate reached 13000. yes you read that right 13000, and Im a 3 handicap and play on my college team. I got fitted to a Diamana redboard, and ordered it in a titleist d2. I couldnt hit the thing at all, and one day my buddy told me to try the prolaunch red in my old G2. The day after i got the G2 back i was in a tournament and i was hitting the ball up there about 270-280 where im usually like 250-260. I couldnt tell if it was because it was dry out or what but i definitely noticed the ball going a little further, but my launch was probably the same as before.
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Posted 07 June 2008 - 03:37 AM

View Postsmokesplaygolf, on May 27 2008, 01:27 PM, said:

Im with you buddy, except my spin rate reached 13000. yes you read that right 13000,

That machine was wrong, that is impossible unless your SS is in the 120s and you have a descending blow of about 20 degrees, while having a loft of 40 on your driver, just punched it into the Trajectoware software i have and it wouldnt even give me a ballflight, just SS and AofA numbers
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Posted 12 June 2008 - 03:50 PM

I am really impressed with this shaft. I have had some high end Fujis and Mitsus in the past and the PL Red is right there with them. I was playing the VS Proto before this and some swing changes warrented something different. Definately worked for me and didn't cost an arm and a leg.
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Posted 18 June 2008 - 10:06 AM

I was fitted by Nike back in February for a Sumo 5000 8.5*, and a ByYou 65-S, tipped 3/4"

Ball speed was 167-171, and I forget the othe rnumbers, but, basically, they mis-fit me, and I've been hitting the driver like crap outside.

I got together with the Nike guy again yesterday, and he had me try the Prolaunch Red - X.. Freakin AWESOME.. MUCH more stable at impact, and the ball just carried, and carried.. 315-320.. Also a bit lower.. which will help me gte a bit more roll, as I was plugging the ball in moist conditions..
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Posted 03 August 2008 - 09:35 AM

ordered a X in my g10
only reason i picked this because it was the high bend shaft ping used in this model
plays significantly weaker then my vista pro 65X
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Posted 09 October 2008 - 09:23 PM

Can anyone compare the hybrid version of this shaft to the UST proforce v2 hybrid shaft, I am weighing the two optiomns for my sonartec md 21°
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Posted 09 October 2008 - 10:06 PM

well off the top of my head
v2 is a low bend, pl red is a high bend
i see alot of people with the pl red in the ping woods and hybrids, havent seen a v2 in anything yet
id suggest the pl red over the v2


also, i threw 2 strips of lead tape down the shaft of my g10 to make the prolaunch a bit heavier, personally i like it more but i dont understand how it brought my launch angle down to about 13* but put my spin rate threw the roof :deadhorse:
personally, im not really impressed with the prolaunch red, i wouldnt buy another one for me thats for sure
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Posted 11 October 2008 - 10:23 AM

Awesome Shaft in Stiff for a 97-100mph swing. I have a steep angle of attack, and require a high kick point low spin shaft and this is just right. Mid-Low ball flight low spin. I am now hitting it in the G10 Driver & G10 3&5 Woods and will be picking up the 4 Hybrid.

Some of the other posts suggest it is less than ideal in X Stiff for those with 110mph SS, but for a more moderate SS this is a great shaft. For a point of reference:

Aldila By You- way too much spin for me, flailed it right every time
Diamana BB 65- Good shaft, comparable results for me, but Very expensive.
Speeder 757- Great shaft, but at 43 yo I'm not man enough anymore, expensive.
Speeder 686- Great "baby" 757 that a bit stiffer than PL Red in Stiff, expensive but great results, low spin, low-mid trajectory.
Graffalloy PL 35- My first great driver shaft, and if you liked this shaft you'll love the PL Red. PL Red firmer w/less torque and I was able to snap the PL35 if I got quick, but not the PL Red.

In summary, PL Red is a great buy for the $. Try it.

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Posted 21 October 2008 - 08:23 PM

Great shaft. The feel is good and it is one of the few shafts that keeps my ballflight and spin down. It is not quite the whiteboard but it is great for the price.
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Posted 21 October 2008 - 08:52 PM

I'm loving it in my new Launcher driver. In fact, getting it in all of my woods except the hybrid which is getting the proforce v2 hybrid shaft.
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Posted 21 October 2008 - 09:03 PM

My ss measured 96 to 102 in my diver fitting and I find the Prolaunch Red, R flex to be the best shaft I've tried. It is a great stock shaft in combination the BTY 4350.
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Posted 21 November 2008 - 04:46 PM

I'm using PL Red 65 S in my I-Mix 8.5* right now, and I can honestly say it does keep the ball flight down. It doesn't feel too bad when you hit it, but to me, it doesn't feel like it has a lot of "pop". Its not a bad shaft, but I don't think it measures up to the ProLite 3.5, which I think is an outstanding shaft. For the price, its a solid shaft.
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Posted 05 February 2009 - 05:59 AM

Probably one of the best high kick shafts when it comes to performance to price ratio. I would put this shaft up there with Diamana White.
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Posted 08 June 2009 - 02:10 AM

great shaft, just got it on a burner 2007 lots of fun. play in regular although i think i should be using stiff tho lol =)
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 03:21 PM

i have the pro launch red stiff in my G10 9* doesnt launch that low but very penetrating after initial take off, 270- 275 yds carry , just had a G10 built as back up with fujikura e 370 that launches very low ,with very low spin rate , ideal for windy conditions , really nice solid feel as well , but i wouldnt say its longer in distance, just better in the wind than the red.
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Posted 28 July 2009 - 10:46 AM

Removed the Speeder 652 that was in my Titleist 909 D2, put in the PL Red S flex, tipped 1" (tipped since the 909 is non bore through and the 907 is a bore thru). The PL Red is the same shaft that I was fit for on launch monitor when I bought a 907 D2 last year. It just works for me, seem to be carrying it as far as before, but getting more roll out. My ss is about 105.
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Posted 21 September 2009 - 04:34 PM

Truly a low launch shaft, with low spin, BUT really plays stiff. I think you should go down one flex, and definately don't tip. If you're used to playing to Stff, order Reg. X-stff-- go down to stiff. Other than that, great shaft-- does just what it is adverstised to do.
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