[maroonandwhite]

It seems like all of today's popular wedge designs are converging on a single head shape. Where did variety go? I've been club obsessed for years, and I truly miss all the great wedges that have come and gone over the years. Heck, I've yet to find a replacement for the late 60's Wilson R-90 in my bag-- I would be lost without it around the greens! I'd like to hear what all of the other club gurus out there think are the best wedge head designs ever. Here are my top 5:

1) Late 60's Wilson R-90
2) 60-61 Wilson Staff Dyna-Powered
3) MacGregor Double-Duty 11 Iron (Tommy Armour)
4) Early 70's Hogan Sure-Out
5) The original Cobra "Rusty" (Okay, that's not really old, but that was a great head)

Agree/disagree? What's missing?

[jwrogers]

I absolutely agree. It seems like everybody is making Vokey 200/Cleveland 588 wedges these days. Everything is similar. It's a great design and that's why so many people like it, but I have two wedge sets. The first is a set of Wilson Harmonized, a traditional shape with a little more offset than most wedges. I don't play them, they are in the basement.

I'm playing Eye2+ wedges.

[sergizmo]

I'd like to see Wilson re-make the R-90. Being 29, I've never seen an R-90 in the flesh, much less played one. It would also be cool if they re-made the Button Backs and FG-17's. Not gonna happen, I know, but it would still be pretty neat.

[sitem]

Ram Tom Watson's from the early 90's

Cleveland 485's

sitem

[xxio]

Another vote for the 485.
That's the one with the really wide sole right? I don't remember ever hitting a chunk with that wedge. It just didn't look classic enough from the bottom. I wonder what a 485 with a heel grind could do.

[maroonandwhite]

Do you think the Vokey 200 or Cleveland 588 series wedges are more popular because they truly are more suited to modern balls and courses, or is their popularity just largely due to widespread availability?

[mayes]

sitem, on Oct 8 2006, 11:20 PM, said:

Ram Tom Watson's from the early 90's

Cleveland 485's

sitem

+1 on the Watson Ram's. I loved those. Wish I still had them.

[xxio]

I have a RAM/Watson 60 that is bent to 63 just so I could get some bounce on it.

[Hairpie]

I can't believe someone remembers the R-90....I played it for a time but actually liked the R-20 better due to the different flange.....I loved how they painted the shaft dark brown to make it look like an old hickory shaft....I am REALLY dating myself here....The Hogan Sure-Out was a pretty good sand wedge if you had problems with bunker play.....

[beninfluence]

Cobra 'trusty rusty'
Would love to be able to get a brand new, 61* head.
Great wedges

[cowboynjungle1]

I remember really loving the Wilson Staff Tour Blade JP Custom Grind. I think I had two or three of those. For bunker play, I also agree with the R-20 and R-90, and the Hogan Sure-Out.

[steve81]

really suprised to see votes for the RAM Tom Watson wedges.

my range has plenty of 56* and 60* in the rental bin. might have to give them a whirl.

really that good?

well, my personal vote would be the origianl tm rac wedges....not the newer tp y-cutters.

[drstroud]

Cleveland 588 BeCu. I should never have sold mine.

[BritinAz]

If memory serves, Golf discount, Mesa, Az -has a bin full of RTG 485 wedges!!! the RTG 588's were in the bin for a day or so!!!

[pitbull808]

cowboynjungle1, on Oct 10 2006, 07:59 AM, said:

I remember really loving the Wilson Staff Tour Blade JP Custom Grind. I think I had two or three of those. For bunker play, I also agree with the R-20 and R-90, and the Hogan Sure-Out.

With all the love I've seen for these...I knew there was a reason I never sold them. Just wish I could find that Hogan Sure Out that I know I've got hidden in one of my old bags.

Wilson R20


Wilson JP Grind

[xxio]

I gave away a 9/10 JP grind, and my Ram TW yesterday to a friend who plays the matching Callaway SW/LW from his big berthas. he was wondering we had had a hard time in bunkers and fluffy lies. He is a 13 hdcp that putts it out of bunkers. A few tips and the wedges seemed to have him on the right track.

[PingDog]

This year, I found a Wilson R-90 and a very similar Tommy Armour R-91 for $10 each at golf shops in great condition. My daughter's golf teacher swears by them and owns several R-90's. The R-91 appeared to have a bit more loft than the R-90, and I gave it to her instructor to add to his collection. Personally, I prefer my 588 and my Eye 2 wedges over either, as they seem to have better feel to me.

[CooGAR]

Ah!! Back when buying a Cleveland meant you were buying a Cleveland!!

[rgk5]

1984 Wilson JP SW

Hogan Special SI

1966 Golfcraft Continental PW

[Double Rods]

Vokey 300 series. I just picked up a brand new set of 51,55,59 to put away for later. I love the shape and grind.

As for the old Phil Rodgers Cobra Rusty, I played one for about 3 years. Awesome.

[Ankorgolf]

588 RTG no question.

[MBA-J]

Cleveland 485...mmmm...just got one practically brand new for $10 dollars.

It's a perfect complementary wedge to my Mizuno MP-R.

I wish more manufacturers released round heads.

Can Titleist bring back the 400 series wedge?

[belligerentgene]

Without a doubt the Cobra forged Greg Norman Signature wedges...

I had a the 54 and the 60 and have yet to find wedges that played/looked that good.

[justaman5]

1986 ping eye 2 becu sand wedge with real square grooves and a 57.5 degrees of loft

[obsessed_golfer]

Vokey 400 series

[andemw01]

Edwin Watts has wilson R-90's on website

http://www.edwinwatt...215_-1_1107.htm

[mat562]

Another vote for beryllium Eye 2 wedges.

I'd also like to see Cleveland 588s and 588 TGs in a raw finish, Ram Tom Watson wedges (again, in beryllium copper please), Wilson Staff JP wedges and a re-issue of the Cobra Trusty Rusty series. The old Titleist Forged series wedges from the mid '90s would be a nice thing to see again too.

[stage1350]

Best classic wedges are still the 588 TG/RTG, Eye 2 BeCu Square Groove, and the original Ernie Vadersen Snake Eyes wedges. Honorable mention to the Wilson Harmonized (The forging that was used on the Snake Eyes before grinding), Hogan Special series in carbon and BeCu, and the Wilson Staff JP series, especially the JP IV BeCu.

The TVD Spin Milled wedges will go down as classics too.

[pt73]

Sonartec T35 Proto.

[blinden]

I just wish Vokey would release a SM version of the 60V.



Brian

[rhoward327]

Can I say Wilson r-20. It is close to the r-90. A little more onset I think. Nice brown shaft too! Seriously I still use one. I am laughed at for it too(a lot). It can get the ball out of anything. Great from long rough and firm bunkers. I cary and vokey 200 56-14 and a wilson r-20 specs unknown to me. I often hope someone out there will make a update to that wedge with modern matrials and such. Maybe with a little more bounce and a c-grind to allow it to be laid open without adding a lot of bounce. wink! wink! I bought one on ebay once and tried to add some weld on the bottom and shave down the trailing edge. It did not work out well. I did not think it was possible to make the r-20 uglier. I was wrong.

[Mheav]

Definitely 400 Series Vokeys......

[dlygrisse]

Eye 2 Be Cu, never owned one, but always wanted one.....

588 BeCu and RTG, I had a BeCu and tried to bend it, SNAP! goes the hosel!

Wilson Harmonized, isn't this what Watson used for his famous chip in at Pebble?

Sandy Andy

Hogan Sure Out, great out of the sand, impossible to use off the fairway


Spaulding Johnny Miller Finness Wedge 56* with a thin sole, my first favorite wedge I learned to work magic with it, sadly I left it laying on the 18th green while finishing at dusk, wasn't there the next day....went and bought my first Cleveland. Damn, that must have been almost 20 years ago......

[Mike_C]

Ben Hogan "Forty Seven" wedge. I played one for over 15 years. I don't remember when they stopped making them tho...

[Scotte]

i would like to see the vokey 400 again

[spring7]

Cleveland 691.

[mrhills0146]

Hogan Special SI

Special place in my heart. I loved that club, and holed more bunker shots with it than I will probably hole aggregate for the rest of my life. I went through three of these sand irons and when the final one had no grooves left on the face a couple of years ago, it was time to move on. I still haven't found anything that feels as good out of the sand.

[jokerusn]

Another vote for the vokey 400s. I still have a 452 that goes in the bag on occasion. If they could make an oil can 400 series, non-spin milled, I'd be all over that.

[jeffblais09]

walter hagen grass glider 52* like a magic wand