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[rightlefty]

jdubbs, on 27 November 2011 - 03:22 PM, said:

Just another company that doesnt like to make LH clubs.....

Its not right that companys discriminate against left handed people like that. I dont see how they get away with it.


I wish the righties would boycott these companys, and give us some support !    Fortunetly for me I can play either left of right handed so I can use these clubs. However I will only buy from companys that dont make left handed clubs when I can get them very very cheap, like used demos or close outs. And I will not use the headcovers, I switch to headcovers from a company that makes both left and right handed clubs.

[tom93084]

Lower or higher spin then the j33 r 460? Anybody know?

[wvularc11]

rightlefty, on 28 November 2011 - 12:26 PM, said:

jdubbs, on 27 November 2011 - 03:22 PM, said:

Just another company that doesnt like to make LH clubs.....

Its not right that companys discriminate against left handed people like that. I dont see how they get away with it.


I wish the righties would boycott these companys, and give us some support !    Fortunetly for me I can play either left of right handed so I can use these clubs. However I will only buy from companys that dont make left handed clubs when I can get them very very cheap, like used demos or close outs. And I will not use the headcovers, I switch to headcovers from a company that makes both left and right handed clubs.

It's not discrimination, it is business - a privately owned business can choose to provide a product for any person they wish, and I am sure they have run the numbers and determined that as the majority of player are right handed an they are a niche market in the club market that it doesn't make financial sense to create / redo their manufacturing to produce a left handed club to have minimal sales which overtime they may not even break even on with the cost of revamping their entire manufacturing process.  It is like a private club only allowing men to be members, if you don't like it you can join somewhere else or asking Mercedes to make a car that is only $15,000 dollars so that a poor person doesn't feel left out because they don't make a car they can afford and want to drive a luxury car.  They have marketed their products to the right handed players and it's probably a sound business move.  there are plenty of other manufacturers that make left handed clubs to choose from.

[J13]

It does stink when clubs aren't available for lefties.  I'm a left handed person but play golf right handed.  Thank you weirdo genetics

[PKMillerJr]

rightlefty, on 28 November 2011 - 12:26 PM, said:

jdubbs, on 27 November 2011 - 03:22 PM, said:

Just another company that doesnt like to make LH clubs.....

Its not right that companys discriminate against left handed people like that. I dont see how they get away with it.


I wish the righties would boycott these companys, and give us some support !    Fortunetly for me I can play either left of right handed so I can use these clubs. However I will only buy from companys that dont make left handed clubs when I can get them very very cheap, like used demos or close outs. And I will not use the headcovers, I switch to headcovers from a company that makes both left and right handed clubs.

It is a business decision not discrimination.  If I owned my own company and couldn't make a decent profit off of lefties due to limited demand (estimates I have seen put the lefty population at 10% of general population), then I would not invest in left handed forging dies and/or casting molds to make the products.

[onwrd2vctry]

Bump...Any follow up info from OP???

[Skaffa77]

puttitin, on 12 November 2011 - 06:24 AM, said:

tampay, on 10 November 2011 - 12:36 PM, said:

abewley, on 10 November 2011 - 12:29 PM, said:

does the 445 cc head share the same face size?   just bigger body?

The 445 cc has a bigger, shallower face. It's stretched back and lower to the ground in general for higher launch and forgiveness. 445 is geared for the mid/high - low handicap. While I'd call the 430 a low handicap / good strikers driver.

Would you say the 445 cc looks more like the J38 460 cc driver? I know it has a relatively shallow face ,but I would'nt know if it is more or less stretched back .By the way I love my J38 with the stock Motore shaft!

I currently own both (J40 445 & J38)...the J40 445 is a little deeper.   Someone described it best...the J40 445 face depth is between the J38 and J40 430.

Edited by Skaffa77, 06 January 2012 - 03:40 PM.

[J13]

onwrd2vctry, on 05 January 2012 - 03:28 AM, said:

Bump...Any follow up info from OP???

What type of follow up info you looking for?  At the moment not much golf being played being winter so nothing new to report.

[brentj40]

the j40 430 is a driver im seriously considering , any update from 430 users?

[pureswings1]

Just got my 9.5 degree 430 with a PX 6.5 this week.  Great driver, period.  Two rounds under my belt with it, and I haven't had so much fun driving the ball in a long time.  Easy to work both ways and much more precise than my R11, with no noticeable loss in distance.  I have a state open qualifier coming on Wednesday and plan to game it.  Can't recommend this club enough.

[Cwebb]

How does the the face angle setup on most of these?  Has anyone had them measured?

[nitram]

ATXHorn, on 22 November 2011 - 11:47 PM, said:

For my game the J33 460 is the best driver ever. Deep face, low spin, somewhat forgiving. Any idea how these j40 options stack up vs j33460?

Just as long and low spin with a sweet spot 10 times larger than the J33. Both the 430 and 445 are outstanding drivers and given more exposure they'd replace the one in your bag.

[Cwebb]

Cwebb, on 15 June 2012 - 10:23 PM, said:

How does the the face angle setup on most of these?  Has anyone had them measured?

I also noticed that these have a long hosel.  Has anyone tried to have one bent for face angle and or lie?

[pureswings1]

Cwebb, on 15 June 2012 - 10:23 PM, said:

How does the the face angle setup on most of these?  Has anyone had them measured?

The 430 sets up at least 2 degrees open, but I've had no problem working it both ways.  Had another range session with it today and it blew away my R11 and an R11s with the same setup.  Feel and trajectory are incredible.

[Cwebb]

pureswings1, on 16 June 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

Cwebb, on 15 June 2012 - 10:23 PM, said:

How does the the face angle setup on most of these?  Has anyone had them measured?

The 430 sets up at least 2 degrees open, but I've had no problem working it both ways.  Had another range session with it today and it blew away my R11 and an R11s with the same setup.  Feel and trajectory are incredible.

That's good news on the open face.  I gotta get a closer look at these

[esketores]

Screw Bridgestone.  
No left handed versions.
If they are not willing to step up to the plate and support lefties then the product should be reviewed with caveats.
And to think I gamed the e6. No more.

[mrfols]

At least the e6 comes left handed!  

[shankarrific]

Just acquired the 430. Was using Titleist 983k. Have only hit approximately 50 range balls so far will not really be able to tell until I play. It looks like I hit the 430 higher than the 983k and the ball looks like it has more of a boring flight than the 983k even though I hit it higher. Club face sets up square and feels very solid but has a slight ting sound when hitting range balls. The ting sound just about disappears when using Pro V1 x's. Does'nt seems like its to penalizing on mishits. But all that depends on how bad the mishit is. Has the stock Project X in it at 6.0. Will update once I decide to play. On a side note for you lefty's, you can turn the driver upside down down and hit it from the left side. The head is deep enough to accommodate it.

[J13]

It's a great driver for sure glad you are enjoying it.  I just wish Bstone would get the equipment into the stores so more people could try it before they buy it.  I loved testing this driver but it's hard for people to truly get a feel for it if they can't hold it in their hands.  Enjoy the 430 the driver is a workable monster!

[swanry30]

J40 430 with PX black 7.0 is a rocket!!!

[thomas55]

I know the topics old but just had to ask. I want to see if I can replace my 909D3/ SVS7 stiff voodoo. I was thinking about the 910D3 but I have read many great reviews on this club. Is there a really big difference between the 445 and the 430? Is the 430 that much harder to hit?

[radtech]

nitram, on 16 June 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

ATXHorn, on 22 November 2011 - 11:47 PM, said:

For my game the J33 460 is the best driver ever. Deep face, low spin, somewhat forgiving. Any idea how these j40 options stack up vs j33460?

Just as long and low spin with a sweet spot 10 times larger than the J33. Both the 430 and 445 are outstanding drivers and given more exposure they'd replace the one in your bag.

I wish I could find a J40!!!  I to love my J33R 460.  Is the face as deep as the J33R?  With the J40 being more forgiving does that mean you see more spin?  The J33R is the lowest spinner I have owned and will probably buy a J40 without hitting it.  But if someone can give any insight into the spin difference would be GREAT!

[J13]

Plenty on ebay to find.  It's a solid driver and VERY workable.