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#481 oldschoolrocker

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 08:34 PM

A pure stroke of genius BJ.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 03:44 AM

Found this little clip on youtube, via the SOHG website

It was filmed at Arbroath Golf Club on the day of the Hickory cup challenge between the USA and the rest of the world

https://www.youtube....h?v=kccRVeIVQNU


Very cold foggy day, but we had a blast playing matchplay with the Ouimet victor mesh replica ball.

I will let Blade Junkie out a few people in this clip. ( Many pints were shared with 3 of Geoffrey's English mates who appear in the clip)

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 03:04 AM

View PostKirasdad, on 12 June 2014 - 08:07 PM, said:

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There is one guy I completely trust, Bob Georgaide, his ebay handle is stixnstuff. Bob knows hickory as well as anybody, and he says up front whether a club is a player or not. His prices are fair.
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Posted 15 June 2014 - 02:51 PM

If you look on www.hickorygolfers.com the Society of Hickory Golfers web site you can find info that will help. I would be a good idea to join as well as over the year the Wee Nip the magazine of the SoHG has great info as well. Plus you help the driving force of hickory golf

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 08:02 PM

View Postmajic, on 15 June 2014 - 02:51 PM, said:

If you look on www.hickorygolfers.com the Society of Hickory Golfers web site you can find info that will help. I would be a good idea to join as well as over the year the Wee Nip the magazine of the SoHG has great info as well. Plus you help the driving force of hickory golf


I second the above.

Also Tad - congrats on your Super Senior win at Belvedere..........


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Posted 21 June 2014 - 10:29 AM

I have talked a lot about Sharp Park, a public and affordable MacKenzie design south of San Francisco that has been under assault by some well intentioned but misguided environmentalists.  The course serves a diverse group of blue collar golfers with a high percentage of juniors and seniors.

They recently had a fundraiser tournament to support the course / legal fees and I found this nice photo in their report.  Good stuff norcal hickory team!


http://imgur.com/TV2ckcU

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 12:51 AM

View Postrileyj, on 21 June 2014 - 10:29 AM, said:

I have talked a lot about Sharp Park, a public and affordable MacKenzie design south of San Francisco that has been under assault by some well intentioned but misguided environmentalists.  The course serves a diverse group of blue collar golfers with a high percentage of juniors and seniors.

They recently had a fundraiser tournament to support the course / legal fees and I found this nice photo in their report.  Good stuff norcal hickory team!


http://imgur.com/TV2ckcU


Bajadulce and Stacey looking very dapper on the left of the photo !

Riley - when are you going to dip your toe in the hickory waters ? Steve has spare clubs for the ones you're missing ... :)



I'm getting closer to posting a decent score with original hickory. On Saturday I was one point shy of being on a par score vs handicap in a Club Stableford competition, topped yesterday evening by taking on a 7-handicapper friend of mine (playing his modern gear) in a scratch match, and coming out on top by 2&1 despite being outdriven by 70-80 yards on each par 4/5. Played pretty good apart from two holes of rubbish when I was 3 up with 4 to play and started thinking too much :)
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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:13 AM

View PostBlade Junkie, on 23 June 2014 - 12:51 AM, said:

I'm getting closer to posting a decent score with original hickory. On Saturday I was one point shy of being on a par score vs handicap in a Club Stableford competition, topped yesterday evening by taking on a 7-handicapper friend of mine (playing his modern gear) in a scratch match, and coming out on top by 2&1 despite being outdriven by 70-80 yards on each par 4/5. Played pretty good apart from two holes of rubbish when I was 3 up with 4 to play and started thinking too much :)

Congrats! That's awesome that you take your hickories into club matches against moderns. It must be pretty satisfying to pull it off...what do your opponents think of your equipment choice?

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:38 AM

View PostHoldenCornfield, on 23 June 2014 - 06:13 AM, said:

View PostBlade Junkie, on 23 June 2014 - 12:51 AM, said:

I'm getting closer to posting a decent score with original hickory. On Saturday I was one point shy of being on a par score vs handicap in a Club Stableford competition, topped yesterday evening by taking on a 7-handicapper friend of mine (playing his modern gear) in a scratch match, and coming out on top by 2&1 despite being outdriven by 70-80 yards on each par 4/5. Played pretty good apart from two holes of rubbish when I was 3 up with 4 to play and started thinking too much :)

Congrats! That's awesome that you take your hickories into club matches against moderns. It must be pretty satisfying to pull it off...what do your opponents think of your equipment choice?

Bemusement, incredulity ... insanity ... not many even want to try hitting them. My friend had one hit with the driver, hit it pretty good about 230, and just said "weird" ... I don't think he'll be a convert :)

For every success there is always a counter-balancing failure. I played in a fourball on Friday night, and played ok, but all three chaps got bested by our fourth player ... an 11 year old girl ... which puts things nicely in the proper perspective lol :)
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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:39 AM

Big BZ BJ....


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 12:16 PM

Nice playin Geoff.  You certainly are a great ball striker and it is/was just a matter of time before your scores represented how well you hit the ball!  Exciting! :)
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Posted 23 June 2014 - 04:53 PM

View Postbajadulce, on 23 June 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

Nice playin Geoff.  You certainly are a great ball striker and it is/was just a matter of time before your scores represented how well you hit the ball!  Exciting! :)

Very kind of you to say so Steve !

I still missing most of my makeable putts though :) (Steve christened me "Bernie" when I was in the US in the Spring on account of the huge volume of putts that lipped out or "burned" the edges !)
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Posted 26 June 2014 - 03:38 AM

I just heard that bajadulce had a hickory hole-in-one yesterday !!!!!

Aparently at the 120 yard 8th hole at DeLaveaga GC, Santa Cruz, with a Gibson mashie niblick only recently acquired!



Super stuff Steve !!! :)

Edited by Blade Junkie, 26 June 2014 - 03:39 AM.

'Tis the hickory season ...
Geo Duncan Driver, Brassie
W.Jeffery Bulldog; Tom Stewart irons:
Cleek, Dr. Mashie, Mashie Iron, Jigger
Mashie, Lofter, Spade Mashie, M.Niblick
Niblick, Nicoll Howitzer, Eskitt putter

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 06:10 AM

Very Jealous.

Congrats Steve.

Question is..... Did you know it was destined for greatness straight off the club face??

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 11:08 AM

A shot made with a club made by the best club makers of the hickory era- William Gibson Co. Tad


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Posted 26 June 2014 - 01:29 PM

Thnx "Bernie", Aussie, Tad, Kathy.

Club cost $35 + $45 in drinks for the foursome of strangers I got randomly paired up with + whatever cases of beer I now owe Martin Pool (friend who sold to me club @ Pgrove) :)

I'll have to find some time to upload picture of club.  Chopped off about 1/4" off shaft, added a tad of loft, grinded out a small rust spot, new grip and I guess even a blind squirrel gets things "right" once in a while.

Haven't got the picture from my new friend Ron, who snapped one on his camera yet, so for now this one my wife took this morning will have to do! :)
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Posted 26 June 2014 - 02:09 PM

Steve:

Congrats on your hole in one - your first?

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 09:32 PM

Thnx Wally, not first, but it has been 20+ years.  This is my 4.33rd hole in one!  I was stuck at 3.33 for 20 years and the .33rd one being the last.

Now you're probably wondering what the heck a .33 hole in one could possibly be?  :)  Without writing a novel, I'll do my best to tell the story with as little words as possible, but I apologize in advance for it requires a little more than just a simple explanation.

20 years ago the Jim Colbert company took over a small golf course in San Dimas CA and began fixing up the course.  One summer long project included adding a pond infront of the 16th complete with a new green and stone wall.  After months of being closed, the day finally came when we saw a flag!  Now my buddies and I were poor college "kids" who didn't have a whole lot of money and so we usually snuck on courses around twilight time pocketing the outrageous $6.50 twilight fee to spend at better places like Taco Bell or gas in the VW to get to the beach.. :) So here we are the 3 of us playing our usual dusk game and of course never make it anywhere near the 16th hole before total darkness sets in.  But there was no way we weren't going to play the new 16th with that bitchin' new lake!  We just happen to finish our round on a hole that was close to the driving range, and a good buddy (Dr. Lee) suggests we take 3 driving range balls over to the hole rather than risk losing our own.  Sounded like a good idea.  So in the pitch dark, we all 3 hit and listen for a splash, but only hear the firmness of the new surface.  Each shot was followed with "Ohhh, that's all over it!  I hit that perfect! .... shhhhh quiet ... you hear that? I hit the geen!"  And sure enough when we ran down the hill and onto the green, 2 balls were within a flag distance away of the cup.  The third identically marked RANGE BALL was of course in the hole! :)

Edited by bajadulce, 26 June 2014 - 09:39 PM.

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Posted 27 June 2014 - 05:55 AM

Simply brilliant,   Thanks for sharing it.

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 01:54 AM

CONGRATULATIONS STEVE!

That is really cool.

BTW, love the floral print sheets, kinda goes with the patina on the mashie niblick.

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 11:39 AM

Just found out that the ever modest Steve has followed up his ace with a recent 4 under par gross 67 (4 birdies 0 bogeys) net 61 in the qualifying round of his Club's Summer Matchplay Event, to qualify for the knock out rounds as top seed ...


WOW!

Edited by Blade Junkie, 11 July 2014 - 11:49 AM.

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 11:19 PM

Fantastic round.

That is a score that we dream about.

Congrats to your club for letting you play with hickory.

I have been blacklisted from using hickory in our board / major events. Cant have an unfair advantage due to illegal grooves.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 12:22 AM

View PostAussie_steeler, on 11 July 2014 - 11:19 PM, said:

Fantastic round.

That is a score that we dream about.

Congrats to your club for letting you play with hickory.

I have been blacklisted from using hickory in our board / major events. Cant have an unfair advantage due to illegal grooves.

Oh that sucks Daren ... Sorry to hear that!

I've been using mine in Club Comps and no-one has said anything ... though I'm expecting that somebody will rat if I actually win something :)

Presumably if we all were to put together a smooth face play set then there is no issue with that ?
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Mashie, Lofter, Spade Mashie, M.Niblick
Niblick, Nicoll Howitzer, Eskitt putter

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 07:15 AM

Aussie_steeler

Maybe they should check the grooves/clubs of everybody at
your club events instead of just obviously picking on you.
Sounds like "discrimination" to me.....I bet they will find
more than a few illegal modern clubs as well.

Its a shame why a part of golf history legal in its day is
outlawed, especially at the amateur level. If they are standing
on ceremony (to preserve the rules of the game to the letter etc)
they could still create a local rule to allow it.

Geoff - smooth face would get rid of the groove issue - but
they may try to attack the shape of the shaft as well.....

The only part I agree with is not mixing posted hickory and classic/
modern scores for handicap purposes.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 10:59 AM

View PostBella Woods, on 12 July 2014 - 07:15 AM, said:


The only part I agree with is not mixing posted hickory and classic/
modern scores for handicap purposes.

Yes that's fair comment. My club is pretty relaxed about that ... So my hickory scores are going down as "modern" handicap rounds. I can play to handicap or under in practice rounds, but haven't quite yet been able to replicate that in competitions, so have copped the +0.1 for the last six weeks unfortunately ...

Today we played The Valdoe Cup as a Stableford off the Silver Tees (7,104 yards par 71). I did ok but some holes just require a tee shot carry that is beyond my ability with my hickory clubs, so 29 points it was, same as last year, and  tied 25th out of the 79 starters. To be honest. I had six 3-putts today, so could have easily done a bit better, the three misses inside 3-feet for starters. But then I always seem to leave 10 shots out there by varying means ... :)

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Niblick, Nicoll Howitzer, Eskitt putter

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 02:53 PM

Geoff:

25th out of 79 is a pretty good finish as far as I am
concerned (especially on that long of a course).

Good Job!

BTW - The guy that did all the math (and I think created the
slope rating system) figured that a golfers handicap in an
actual tournament(s), would on average be 3 strokes higher than
his/her index.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 10:17 PM

Thanks for the comments Geoff and Bella


Human ego is an amazing thing. The sour grapes only occurred when I shot even par ( 72 net 70) and had the 2nd lowest scratch score for the day.

The lowest scratch score for the day was 66 by a visiting club professional who proceeded to collect the prize. He used his PGA handicap of scratch ( whilst he plays off plus 3 or 4 at his home club) to collect a net 66 to take out A grade.

He had issues with the legalities of my clubs along with many others. Others had issues with a pro taking out the comp. A lot of different opinions and emotions arose that day.

From that day forward I had to apply to the committee for a local rule to be issued to allow me to play in club events with hickory. Major or board events I am excluded. They stand by the R&A ruling on grooves.

Funny side note is the club is happy to promote Lachie and I playing hickory golf over in Scotland.

I know that many club members still play hotface drivers that were banned quite a while ago. I would be held in disrepute by many if I spoke out against them. Ironic.

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 01:17 PM

Gents I think that if the committee is going to challenge players using hickory then they need to check every players bag. This is the year you know the latest groove rule is in effect. I also think many play very old wedges etc or maybe a chipper that might not be correct.
It never stops amazing me what people say and do.
I have been asked about irons with new grooves. I might do that but I am not sure a full set but a strong set. Tooling and head cost is high because of CNC face milling. Tad




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