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Pro V1 vs. Srixon Z Star


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Posted 07 November 2011 - 10:11 AM

Thanks in advance for your input.


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Posted 07 November 2011 - 10:25 AM

Differences will be different from person to person but in general they will be fairly similar. Please use the search function as there are already many threads comparing these balls.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 09:16 PM

Prov1

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 10:20 PM

I've been playing the Z-Star XV for about three months now.  I get all the distance I had with Pro Vs and more control off the driver.  I attribute it to lower spin off the driver.  With irons, the Z-Star XV also spins less than the Pro V, but not dramatically.  My typical ball flight on approach shots is high, so I see no difference.  Wedges from 70 yards in and around the green is where the noticeable difference is.  If you want the ball to hit past pins and suck back, the Pro V is your ball.  The Z-Star XV will hit, hop, and stop.  Around the greens, I run the ball to the hole so the spin difference has little impact on my game.  If you like to throw it to the hole and stop it, the Srixon won't perform like the Pro V.

I've given a few Z-Star XVs to three staunch Pro V players whose game I enjoy watching and they see little difference in performance between the two.  They also think, as do I, that the Srixon is more durable than the Pro V.

Now that the weather in Middle TN is getting chilly, I'll hit the XVs fewer days and AD333s instead.  But I hope my thoughts have helped.

BTW, I'm 60 years old, play most weekdays, my SS with the driver is 98, and carry the ball 245-250.  Cleveland DST 9 degree, CG7 irons, CG14 wedges.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 10:36 PM

^^^ Nice post.  

I concur as far as accuracy off the driver.  My first experience with the Srixon was with the Z-Star X, actually one I found on the golf course.  (For reference, I play the Pro Vx typically).  Long story short I loved the ball, and the accuracy I was getting off the driver was my number one reason.  I felt like it spun a perfect amount for me and my dispertion was much much better.  The closest thing I can compare it to is the difference between hitting a Project X/C-Taper shaft vs. a DG shaft.  The ball just wants to flight straighter.  It felt a little firmer in general, but not enough that it bothered me.  I actually chipped in once, and came one rotation of the ball from chipping in a second time over the course of 9 holes.  So firmer feel or not, it was getting the job done.

I keep meaning to pick up some more Srixons, and definitely will eventually.  Great ball.

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Posted 17 November 2011 - 03:34 PM

just made the switch to Z-Stars from NXT Tours and while I cannot comment on ProV1's, I can say the Z-Star provides the most spin I have had from a ball and definitely move around the greens well.

Will be sticking with it for some time now until something goes horribly wrong.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 03:29 AM

All the top balls are equal or close enough......... Whatever is on sale and right now penta is like 26 a dozen so they win!!!

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 12:34 PM

 dunn, on 18 November 2011 - 03:29 AM, said:

All the top balls are equal or close enough......... Whatever is on sale and right now penta is like 26 a dozen so they win!!!

You can still find Penta's for Buy 2 get one free if you look...

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 12:38 PM

I don't know much about spin, but I love the z star feel off of the putter
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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:34 PM

 itsernst, on 18 November 2011 - 12:34 PM, said:

 dunn, on 18 November 2011 - 03:29 AM, said:

All the top balls are equal or close enough......... Whatever is on sale and right now penta is like 26 a dozen so they win!!!
That's why I said they're 26 a dz

You can still find Penta's for Buy 2 get one free if you look...


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Posted 18 November 2011 - 03:03 PM

they are the same kind of ball. tour level spin. you may notice a slight difference between them around the greens but overall no one is far better than the other.

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Posted 20 November 2011 - 01:35 AM

Prov,
Penta
Z star
Cally is

All very good

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 09:05 PM

 Falcon05, on 15 November 2011 - 10:20 PM, said:

I've been playing the Z-Star XV for about three months now.  I get all the distance I had with Pro Vs and more control off the driver.  I attribute it to lower spin off the driver.  With irons, the Z-Star XV also spins less than the Pro V, but not dramatically.  My typical ball flight on approach shots is high, so I see no difference.  Wedges from 70 yards in and around the green is where the noticeable difference is.  If you want the ball to hit past pins and suck back, the Pro V is your ball.  The Z-Star XV will hit, hop, and stop.  Around the greens, I run the ball to the hole so the spin difference has little impact on my game.  If you like to throw it to the hole and stop it, the Srixon won't perform like the Pro V.

I've given a few Z-Star XVs to three staunch Pro V players whose game I enjoy watching and they see little difference in performance between the two.  They also think, as do I, that the Srixon is more durable than the Pro V.

Now that the weather in Middle TN is getting chilly, I'll hit the XVs fewer days and AD333s instead.  But I hope my thoughts have helped.

BTW, I'm 60 years old, play most weekdays, my SS with the driver is 98, and carry the ball 245-250.  Cleveland DST 9 degree, CG7 irons, CG14 wedges.

Very accurate post..............I also found the XV to be a little more difficult to control, distance wise, from between 30 and 90 yards.........seemed to fly off the club face............but I dare say it takes a bit of getting used to. Really liked the performance with the Driver............nailing past the ProV1X every time.



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Posted 07 December 2011 - 10:52 AM

I played a Srixon ball for the first time this past weekend (Z Star) and it was every bit as good as the Pro V1 or V1x.  It was extremely long off the tee as I was hitting it to my career spots (it was cold to boot so when it warms up---hmmm) but it also spun very well of the short irons.  The ball backed up nicely off my wedges.  But what really surprised me was how durable it was.  When I take full wedge shots with my Vokey's, it tends to shred up the Penta or Bridgestone's, or V1's I've been playing.  Not so with the Z Star.  I loved this ball so much, that it's going to be my gamer ball for now.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:55 PM

Of the two balls (excluding the X versions of both) the better driving ball, for me, is the Z-Star while the ProV is the better behaved around the greens. I also find the Z-Star launches a hair lower on all shots. As another poster said, the ProV will back up around the greens, while the Z-Star hops and stops, or rolls about 3 three feet. I think the lower spin on the Z-Star makes it a bit straighter off the tee. These are all slight differences, to be sure.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 10:49 PM

Z Star

 cruiser16, on 13 November 2011 - 09:16 PM, said:

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 03:33 PM

I find the ProV spins more than the other tour balls but does not give up distance.  The ProV1x is also a good ball.


 kg92lefty, on 18 November 2011 - 03:03 PM, said:

they are the same kind of ball. tour level spin. you may notice a slight difference between them around the greens but overall no one is far better than the other.


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Posted 17 December 2011 - 02:54 PM

my dad is 64 and carries his driver about 225 he gained yards from his driver all the way down to his wedge and actually stops his long irons. from watching him make the switch he has gained carry distance and spin by switching to the srixon zstar not the zstar xv that is there version of the pro v1x. srixon is making imo the best ball for slower swing speeds and a great ball the zstar xv for high swing speeds. its not a tweener ball like the penta thats good for swing speeds 105-110.

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 01:08 AM

ProV1 spins a lot more than the Z-stars for me.  I like the Zstar because it literally is glued to the green on impact while the ProV produces too much spin for my taste.

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 12:19 PM

All down to personal preference. Matters little whether you are using Cally, Nike, TM, Srixon, Titleist, Tour Stage or even Mizuno and Prgr in Japan. All top balls perform within a small window and it is down to feel.


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Posted 27 December 2011 - 12:30 PM

I have tested both balls the OP asked about and they are very much the same...the biggest difference I have seen between the ProV1 and the Z Star is cosmetics in that the Z Star stays "white" longer as the ProV1 tends to start to yellow after a couple of rounds...other than that it is personal preference but in my humble opinion (7 handicap) they are virtually the same performance wise...just my 2 cents

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 11:24 AM

Z-Star.... but I'm biased.  It reminds me of the good late 80's Tour Edition ball.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 01:54 AM

I play both but mainly the Srixon Z Star because it resists scuffing like a freaking champion, plays and feels great, and way cheaper. I found the XV felt "heavy and dead" but the regular Z Star felt more lively and softer. I hit the XV a freakin mile but I hate the feel of it off every club so I stay with the regular Z Star. I prefer the feel of the Titleist to the Srixon but they are way too expensive to game all the time. I save my Titleist balls for tourneys and money games. I get my Srixons from LGB.com in top quality for $20 a dozen. I like the tour yellow sometimes as well. It grew on me!

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:15 AM

 dunn, on 20 November 2011 - 01:35 AM, said:

Prov,
Penta
Z star
Cally is

All very good

Z star
Z star
Z star
Z star

All very very good for me :rolleyes:

Love ProV and Pro VX but I'm warming up to Bridgestones as well

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 05:12 PM

I find the Srixon Z-Star to be my ball of choice.  I was a Pro V1 player for years dating all the way back to the Tour Balata days.  I no longer play the Pro V1 because (for me) the Srixon Z-Star is much more consistent.  I know every shot what the ball is going to do and it is predictable.  With the Pro V1 I would have shots that ripped back 15 feet and the same shot the next time would release.  I just never knew what the ball was going to do.  Same with chip shots I would hit juiced up chips and then the same thing the next time would release.  I have found that I can do everything I want with the Z-Star.  Hit lob wedges that rip back 10 feet or hop and stop.  Low hop hop stop pitches or flop shots that grip the green and don't move.

If I had to rank the spin/feel of the Z-Star it is softer off all clubs, spins less with the driver, more through the irons and wedges and is butter smooth off the putter.  The wedge spin is consistent when compared to the Pro V1.

This only applies to my swing and game preference.  Your best bet it to try a sleeve of both and keep notes of what you like out of each one.  For me the durability of the Z-Star Tour Yellow decimates that of the Pro V1 and that compared with the comparable spin rates is the decision maker for me.


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Posted 09 March 2012 - 02:19 AM

 Dei3Nascar8, on 08 March 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

I find the Srixon Z-Star to be my ball of choice.  I was a Pro V1 player for years dating all the way back to the Tour Balata days.  I no longer play the Pro V1 because (for me) the Srixon Z-Star is much more consistent.  I know every shot what the ball is going to do and it is predictable.  With the Pro V1 I would have shots that ripped back 15 feet and the same shot the next time would release.  I just never knew what the ball was going to do.  Same with chip shots I would hit juiced up chips and then the same thing the next time would release.  I have found that I can do everything I want with the Z-Star.  Hit lob wedges that rip back 10 feet or hop and stop.  Low hop hop stop pitches or flop shots that grip the green and don't move.

If I had to rank the spin/feel of the Z-Star it is softer off all clubs, spins less with the driver, more through the irons and wedges and is butter smooth off the putter.  The wedge spin is consistent when compared to the Pro V1.

This only applies to my swing and game preference.  Your best bet it to try a sleeve of both and keep notes of what you like out of each one.  For me the durability of the Z-Star Tour Yellow decimates that of the Pro V1 and that compared with the comparable spin rates is the decision maker for me.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 06:56 PM

one of the biggest questions/comments I have regarding those who say the spin isn't as excessive as the Pro-V1...is this coming off the old grooved irons which are now non-conforming? I've got the new grooves from my 4 iron through 58* wedge, and I've noticed that the spin on the Pro-V1 isn't as pronounced as in the past, which has made me enjoy them even more. Nothing worse than having to club up to account for the 15 feet of spin with the older grooves and Pro-V1 offerings.




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